Would you ask a girl out again after she refuses?

[Eureka]

From my experience, it all comes back to money with ML's / WL's. Sure, they might go out with you and would have sex with you - but inevitably it comes back to them wanting money. Most of them see us as walking penis's with wallets.. Sure, they are nice about it - but thats what their job entails.

Treat them as WL or not? Thats the way they are. And money is all they think of

Well how can I put this ....
If you are both saying ie "all ML & WL" are only interested in money - then you are wrong !!
I have and are "experiencing" multiple exceptions !!

All girls (ML/ WL or not) have a variety of interests for you to stimulate ...
- humour
- consideration
- each experience of life & love
- appreciation of arts
- appreciation of food
So they have these interests if you have something to offer in these and related stimulus - and no money ever changes hands!

But -- if all you have to offer is money ... well that's all they can take isn't it ..
That's your shortcoming mate not theirs !!

So 5 Star is spot on -- if all you have to contribute between you both is to treat them within the boundary of ML/WL experiences - that is all you get ie being treated like an ATM

But it will be you who squandered the opportunities to expand the basis of interaction not these delightful creatures

[wilisno]

Well how can I put this ....
If you are both saying ie "all ML & WL" are only interested in money - then you are wrong !!
I have and are "experiencing" multiple exceptions !!

All girls (ML/ WL or not) have a variety of interests for you to stimulate ...
- humour
- consideration
- appreciation of arts
- appreciation of food
So they have these interests if you have something to offer - and no money ever changes hands!

But -- if all you have to offer is money ... well that's all they can take isn't it ..
That's your shortcoming mate note theirs !!

So 5 Star is spot on -- if all you have to contribute between you both is to treat them within the boundary of ML/WL experiences - that is all you get ie being treated like an ATM

But it will be you who squandered the opportunities to expand the basis of interaction not these delightful creatures

Coincidentally, both of them are boys !

Joking ! Naughtyboy13, although you said it yourself that you're young !

[Natsu]

From my experience, it all comes back to money with ML's / WL's. Sure, they might go out with you and would have sex with you - but inevitably it comes back to them wanting money. Most of them see us as walking penis's with wallets.. Sure, they are nice about it - but thats what their job entails.

I used to date WL back in the days!
I rarely used my money on her.
We just enjoyed each other company.
And one day we went to casino, and she won some money, she even wants to share it with me!
Of course I didn't take it.
Outside work they are just a normal girl who need some love and affection!

[Littlewonder]

If you like her ask her again she can only say no. What have you got to loose?

[Milhouse]

If you like her ask her again she can only say no. What have you got to loose?

My pride lol.

[NaughtyBoy13]

Well how can I put this ....
If you are both saying ie "all ML & WL" are only interested in money - then you are wrong !!
I have and are "experiencing" multiple exceptions !!

All girls (ML/ WL or not) have a variety of interests for you to stimulate ...
- humour
- consideration
- each experience of life & love
- appreciation of arts
- appreciation of food
So they have these interests if you have something to offer in these and related stimulus - and no money ever changes hands!

But -- if all you have to offer is money ... well that's all they can take isn't it ..
That's your shortcoming mate not theirs !!

So 5 Star is spot on -- if all you have to contribute between you both is to treat them within the boundary of ML/WL experiences - that is all you get ie being treated like an ATM

But it will be you who squandered the opportunities to expand the basis of interaction not these delightful creatures

I didn't say 100% they are all like that. But there are some exception. I agreed, but mainly they work for money and they can't stop because of the money they make and they don't know what else they can do.

[Nejums]

Pride is the sign of a foolish man.

[yug]

With WL, I have found you can ask her out if you have proven yourself as a regular and that you will treat her nicely.
Small gifts here and there will do the trick too.

[NaughtyBoy13]

Coincidentally, both of them are boys !

Joking ! Naughtyboy13, although you said it yourself that you're young !

Well, yes or no. I almost 30 yo not young anymore.

[Eureka]

If you like her ask her again she can only say no. What have you got to loose?

My pride lol.

I hope your Pride will keep you warm at night and company watching a sunset or looking at the stars together !!

Get real mate - life isn't supposed to be safe it's for living and taking worthwhile risks

So as the saying goes-- "take a spoonful of concrete and harden the fuck up !!"

[illidanstormrage]

If you treat them as WL

They will look at you as an ATM

Spot on... but for arguments sake how would you treat a girl like a 'WL'? Putting them on a pedestal? Complimenting them excessively?

I'm sure Mr 5* here has had quite a few laughs at some of the stories the girls might tell about the punters being extremely needy or just ridiculous offers. As it would be in the other shops.

I don't think guys should overemphasize whether a girl is a ML/WL.

You should be aware of it but at the end of the day comparing a 'normal' girl to an ML/WL. One is just more aware of her sexual power and is used to getting paid for using it. So maybe that is an important distinction after all.

When you use money to try and impress women, it sends a terrible message: You’re not enough.

[Blazinsp25]

We can hypothesise as much as we want to why girls do things.... We'll never figure them out loll
But imo girls will always be hesitant in this day and age.
Especially with so many troubled individuals and especially since she doesnt know you.
I think the time when a random guy asks a girl out who she doesnt know is over
With social media so prominent why wouldnt a girl do her homework on you first to see if youre even worth it?
I say exchange contact details and/or add friend on social media and take it from there!

Goodluck!

[Milhouse]

Today I had memories of her when we used to chat before I asked her out, and I remember back then I was pretty sure she was interested, yet obviously I was wrong. So how can I even be confident this time around that I am right?

I guess the only thing that has changed is I made my intention known by asking her out, and even after that she seems to be displaying what I would call interest.

I'm just so confused...

[AHLUNGOR]

We can hypothesise as much as we want to why girls do things.... We'll never figure them out loll
But imo girls will always be hesitant in this day and age.
Especially with so many troubled individuals and especially since she doesnt know you.
I think the time when a random guy asks a girl out who she doesnt know is over
With social media so prominent why wouldnt a girl do her homework on you first to see if youre even worth it?
I say exchange contact details and/or add friend on social media and take it from there!

Goodluck!

Very good point, Facebook and Whatsapp will be much safer for the girls point of view !! Add each other as friend and take it from there !

I think it's easier to ask: can I add you as my Facebook friend ? than to ask: would you like to go out with me after work ??

[rooter]

Pay ... Fuck ... Leave ... the unholy trinity ... and the ultimate truth ... Enjoy! ...

[Milhouse]

Congratulations, you just learned one of the best ways to manipulate women, give them attection then deny it to them.

The problem in your situation is that it looks like she wants you as an 'orbiter'. Women love getting attention from men and will keep a stable of guys around them who give them male validation. The sucky thing for the guys is that she will never sleep with any of them (unless she intends to use them as a backup if she gets old/ugly etc).



This is textbook female behaviour, they are expert at manipulating men this way. Every guy who reads this has gone through the exact same experience you are right now.



Exactly... and this girl is not acting in this manner, what does that tell you? her only intention 'is' to lead you on. Immature/attention seeking/manipulative women will try to keep you attracted as long as she can without giving anything in return. Above all else, this is validation for her.



In general, the reality is that a guy will persue a girl for ages and she will finally give in once she realises she has no better options. Men say that persistence won her over, but deep down, the woman will always know that she settled. I'm a firm believer that if there is no initial (physical) attraction then there never will be. In terms of growing to love somebody in an emotional sense it's different, I believe that can happen over time.



Definately do not do this. Trust me when I say that is the only thing she wants from this interaction. She wants that sweet sweet validation and if you give it to her she will lose interest immediately.

My advice is to lose this chick, however, you can start pushing her buttons by selectively giving and then taking away attention from her. This and acting assertively gets women going for some reason. I guess they think themselves to be powerful or special if they can tame some unpredictable/wild guy.

I hope I don't sound like a dick I just hate to see guys suffer from female manuipulation.

The more I think about it, the more I think all of the above applies to this girl. My question is, how can I use that in my favour? If she only likes my attention, then I think, as you say, when I ask her out she will say no. However, I also think when women are in this situation (being given attention and then having it denied), that they aren't conscious of that and feel confused enough to think that they actually like the guy.

[Nejums]

Just keep your distance, mate. You play hard to get now.

[Milhouse]

Just keep your distance, mate. You play hard to get now.

Ok...but this begs the question...how do I get something by staying away from it?

[leggedon]

Words of advice from over the years.
Women usually want what they can't have.
Treat them mean keep them keen.
Treat a lady like a whore and a whore like a lady.
And be confident.
Not cocky or arrogant but confidence gets them wet.

[GoldfishMan]

Ok...but this begs the question...how do I get something by staying away from it?

I think what the others are getting at is for you to "string" her along. Meaning you need to keep your distance, but not completely shut her out. Always leave a chance for something to happen but you mustn't be the one to initiate it. It's a very fine line to walk, mate!
TBH, the above requires a fair amount of skill, experience, and high EQ on your part to pull off. Also, if you have romantic tendencies or raging hormones, forget about it you will crash and burn for sure. Better ask yourself if you have what it takes to play this game!
If you do, go for it. It's extremely fun and rewarding if you pull it off. Good luck!