I went looking for a punt on foot around the city, was too far from Ginza so I visited a few places around town hall Circular Quay.
Everything is so heavily overpriced, and lacking in service. So many things priced at 300-400 for 30 min of FS.
Meanwhile that price gets you a full hour, with a prettier girl and better rooms at Ginza.
The only one that even comes close is fireflies. All the caucasian brothels are so over priced it's not even funny. Like $300 for a NHJ for an hour.
Outside of the city it's way more reasonable but inside the city it feels like absolutely NOTHING gets anywhere close to Ginzas price/value/quality.
How do they do it.
Is there some hidden brothel or massage place offering FS at a similar value propositions position to Ginza/fireflies?
They been in the business for a long time, great business model. Coming out with new products, innovative.
Great ARs which is the best form of advertisement
They are like Macca's in fast food or Apple in electronics.
They take feedback seriously, quality control
Maybe a better question is how do the caucasian shops do it... How could they survive as profitable businesses when the prices that they charge are so out of touch with reality? In the current economic climate, what perc of the population can afford their prices?
Or maybe they aren't surviving, lol...
But about Ginza. I think it's a combination of a few things, but owning the properties that they operate out of could be the biggest factor, especially when they were bought a long time ago when property prices weren't so crazy yet.
This gives them a lot of freedom to set competitive prices because they have much lower overheads.
This makes a lot of sense as they can just pass the rent onto the customer as a discount vs other shops effectively.Originally Posted by GoldfishMan
Both shops I walked into were dead quiet, literally no other punter inside, or anywhere outside. Meanwhile at Ginza I always bump into like 2-3 people haha.
Maybe many of the other brothels are just a front for laundering or some such activities;
But if we do the math.. lets see..
I mean at a surface level the business model for most brothels is just room rentals; Shitty brothel building probably like $80 bucks a day in the city (What are commercial rent prices for these kinds of buildings?), and most of them charge about $100 for an hour of usage of just the room (excluding the girl's cut).. so as long as they see a single paying customer in a day, they cover rent, and the rest is just mamasan wages, cleaning, utilities, operating expenses.
That's not TOO bad I guess, which is why they might be okay with just opening a brothel and be empty 90% of the time with girls in there doing nothing.
That said; From the girl's perspective it's pretty bad because if your in a low traffic brothel... some days you just don't get paid at all... You just go there sit in that room with other girls and scroll tiktok for 8-10 hours or whatever the shift is.. and go home for $0 earned.
Surely they'd be on like only-fans or something in between sets to maximize earning.
Maybe that's the model for the future, use only fans, to sell brothel services so the girls have something to do in the down time.
Ginza is great. I was always addicted to Chinese girls but after a number of dud punts, decided to just see J girls now. My old regular was Chinese and she offered everything but yeah, it just gets boring with Chinese girls. Her body is not what it used to be as she is now pushing 40 and has a beer belly. When I first saw her back in 2018, she was fit and toned but now that's all gone out the window.
J girls are just beautiful. I am getting a boner just thinking about them right now. Mind you, I just had a wank watching one of the FC2PPV Japanese double videos. Japanese dude with two hot J girls. Poor girls haha, they got huge creampies.
I think brothels like Stilettos definitely make money but their clientele in not your average punter. There is so much black money and spending 1k for a punt is just a joke. Take Blue-eyed kylie who has become famous on TikTok, she charged someone 12k-15k (her own words) for anal or an all nighter for 7k-8k and she gets people paying this amount (I know , it's stupid /insane , etc). But hey that's what's happening.
Even if you had that kind of money to throw around though, the quality at Ginza is pretty hard to beat. Like it's pretty common to find early 20, late teens japanese girls that are willing to do anything. Meanwhile at some of the cauc shops you'll find late 20s, early 30s, that won't do BBBJ (good for them, reduce risk)...
So even if you HAD that kind of money, it still seems like you'd get more for less at Ginza unless you just HAD to have a non-asian WL.
Ginza is very consistent. The level of service and value for money is excellent!
I do have high standards and as with any brothel with good rep, the girls are generally very attractive but it is extremely rare to get serviced by any centerfold magazine quality or drop dead glamour models. I rarely visit cauc privates or shops anymore, expensive and average service. Asians are definitely better value for money.
One thing I dislike about Ginza is how their schedule is only issued for the next day in the early evening. Most places issue a week's worth of roster, but with Ginza they drip feed it daily.
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I always think in Australia there is one agency who provide girls, somehow when the girls first came, they always go to Ginza first, then as they aged or asked for rate increase, they got sent to other shops?
Ginza, in my thought, might be the Agency themselves, and they used to distribute girls to other shops ie FiveStar, but later on decide to open their own shops...
Being Agency is not easy because you cant just recruit anyone, you gotta have your boys to try them out first, and the paperwork must be so hard to do as well these days.
Yes must be very hard to find young men to test out hot Asian prostitutes 😂😂
Just walk around any business district eg Lakemba, Greenacre, Cabramatta et al and you'll see many businesses and shops in a shit location, with zero customers, zero foot traffic, and no sales over long periods of time, then you ask yourself how the fuck do these places survive, how do they pay rent, how do they pay their employees, how do they make a fucken profit?
Then you realise they are just fronts and smoke screens for shady and illegal business taking place behind the scenes.
Simply put, a good business model and how they execute it, with particular emphasis of accessing good level girls, training and QA.
Not rocket science ~ they just do it at a high level.
This goes for a lot Chinese RNT places that only have 1 or 2 milfs/gilfs and you ask yourself how is this joint still alive after years.
I got to say the hospitality industry has picked up heaps in the those south western suburbs and usually have a lot of local support but still used as fronts for other shady business.
I’m seeing a lot more turnover of shops in Burwood/strathfield than south west.
The remembered, the good and the bad at Ginza
It is midday, a WeChat booking - confirmed by text – standing in Goodlet Lane, ready to press a security buzzer, thoughts racing in my head.
I have known Wilson for nearly two decades. We connected when I answered an ad in a local newspaper. Wilson was a skinny bloke, hale fellow well met sort, ushering me into a Maroubra apartment living room, sectioned off by sheets hung as curtains. There was a faint smell of cat urine in the air. Wilson and I chatted about Chinese politics as we waited for one of the two Japanese girls, he had advertised, to become available.
There were words whispered in Chinese, the sheet curtain moved, and Suki’s face appeared. She asked me to follow, totally naked as we conducted our money transaction.
I became a regular at Tokyo Cats. I got into the habit of arriving early and sharing a coffee and a chinwag with Wilson, before meeting one of the girls. There were always two on; sometimes one was genuinely Japanese, but most were Chinese.
My favourite became Yoko, a young Okinawan with a striking resemblance to Zhang Ziyi. We became friends. She confided that the Chinese girls understood Japanese were more popular, so they pretended. It didn’t make much difference to the Aussie customers. Yoko praised Wilson’s business acumen and told me how well he treated his workers.
Wilson had another apartment in the city. Soon, he had others scattered around the suburbs. All operating on the same model: discrete, silent entry, bookings essential, two girls on, one young student, one older worker. Everything on offer from one or the other.
Then, it all closed down. Yoko sent me photos posing in New York. Suki messaged me that she was setting up as a private at triple the old rate. No word from Wilson.
Then I saw the ads for Ginza in Surry Hills, at double the price I used to pay at Tokyo Cats. I did not want to go. It was not just about the hike in prices. I realised that the allure of Tokyo Cats was as much about the forbidden as the service. I watched as Ginza became Sydney’s number one brothel. It took me nearly 15 years before I first stood in Goodlet Lane, ready to press that buzzer.
Roy, a blond Chinaman, greeted me, asked for payment and directed me to room 2. A tall, slim young woman introduced herself as Himari from Osaka. Exactly as she had been photographed. I was smitten. Attentive, caring and passionate. The best session I have had with a sex worker in years. I returned the next day. Roy asked me, as I was leaving, what rating I would give Himari. I had no hesitation in saying 10/10. I was hooked.
Himari returned to her studies in Japan. Sarah caught my eye on the Ginza website. I booked. This time the process was not as smooth. There was a disagreement between the two on the desk about Sarah’s hourly rate. I handed over $300 and was directed into a waiting room. Three other blokes fiddled with their phones. Ten minutes later I heard a faint intercom voice telling me to go upstairs to room nine.
A short, dumpy woman opened the door. In kind light she vaguely resembled the photograph of Sarah on the website. But you would have to be imaginative. There was an uneasiness in the room. I tried to soften it by moving to hug Sarah.
After a tense few seconds she pushed me away and motioned for me to sit down on the bed. A full 5 minutes of questioning from her was only broken when I got up, removed my clothes and had a shower. Sarah fluffed around and eventually joined me in the shower. I got tired of the soaping and rinsing, got out of the shower, dried myself and waited on the bed. I noticed the clock had moved to half past 12.
I had been in the room for 20 minutes already and Sarah was still drying herself. She finally laid back like a stunned fish and I awkwardly attempted to get some energy into the encounter. Sarah asked how much I would tip for extras. I was confused, so she got her phone and punched in $300. I declined.
We eventually had a couple of minutes of unpleasant sex. I showered and left. Roy asked me as I was leaving my rating. I don’t like to criticise working girls because I think their job is horrible, so I said 6/10. When really, it was more like a 1.
Roy apologised. Then later texted me with an offer for a discount with my next appointment. I appreciate his professionalism.
It is a punt at a brothel. Ginza has some stunning women, but it also has its time wasting scammers.
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That was a great read.
Bravo could take some notes.
I usually switch off from multi paragraph posts that require multi scrolling, for a variety of reasons.
Your post held my interest as it was well written, flowed and had an engaging story to tell, to which many could relate.
Is there a recommended time to go to Ginza during the weekdays to avoid the rush of people? Assuming nothing between lunch (11-2 ish) and after work ?
Its the Feng Shui. Its all about the fucken Feng Shui.
You walk in there and you just feel instantly horny, all the troubles of the outside world disappear, you just want to fuck a cutie or baddie or cutie/baddie ASAP.
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