J Miru - fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me

[xxxdindin]

Ok, I don't know where to start “Roasting”

For folks who visited ginza couple months ago, kyoto 206 J miru is ginza J miru, same name, same girl

For folks who hadn't seen J miru at ginza, here are Jack mate's report,

http://www.aus99forum.com/showthread...-Asian)/page23
http://www.aus99forum.com/showthread...ting-Ft-J-Miru

as can see J miru's service is around 6 (out of 10). Not great, but she looks like one of my previous girls, I seen her at ginza last time and decided to revisit her when she on kyoto 206's roaster today.


Booked 12pm, 've been told the girl changed to 1pm, ok changed my booking to 1pm. Walked in at 1pm, 've been told girl was not ready, ok waited again. Another 30mins waiting, the girl finally ready.


Walked in the room, J miru recognised me, she started using google translator on her phone asking me if I made the payment to the shop, I was like, "yeah...sure, of course I needed to pay to the shop first to see you". Then she asked me if I wanted same options (she used "chipping money" in the translator, I guess she wanted to say "tipping money"). I really confused with her translation so she showed me her notes on her phone says "No condom sex $xxx", ok I got your ideas now but I just wanna have a safe sex so I refused. She seeing me to decline her offer, persuaded if I want to do "filming", No I don't have filming fantasy so I refused again. TO THIS POINT, she didn't offend me, I understand some girls need money sometimes so they want to provide extra options.


HOWEVER, things go south from here. After I decline her offers twice, she asked me if I can just tip her? I wasn't quite sure if she just want me to give her money for free (because I clearly said I don't want no condom sex and filming ), so I asked her again. "Yes, I don't earn enough money in this shop so if you can tip me I will try to provide good service, because working in this shop doesn't bring me the money I want, I will go to a premium shop later maybe", she used her phone translator to show me. For the record, I don't like the tipping culture in America because customers already paid products and services together in the price, I saw some silly waitress beating customers if they don't receive tips on youtube, but this is in Australia, if I really like the service I can tip, that's after I have received some 5 star service, how can you ask me to tip you even before any services?? (And again I don't do tipping in shops, I just book longer hours with the girl and do one sex and do the talking for the rest hours, so girls happy they get money and resting, shops happy they get more money, me happy I got better service, everyone happy). I refused again for the tipping. J miru saw that she couldn't get extra money from me, she became unhappy and started to complain that why I didn't tipping her (I understand some Japanese words like money, like why, so I can put together that she complain why I didn't tip her), 15mins passed from my 45mins booking now because she kept using phone to ask me for extra, options and tips. Until now I still treat her like a naughty girl who didn't get the candy. THINGS proved I could be very wrong.


On to bed, she had that poker face (was smily when asking for extra money) and "no kissing" when I tried to kiss her, 30 seconds bbbj and 3 mins sex, she asked me if I had cum and finish because time up. I wish I chose the filming option so I can prove to you guys that I didn't exaggerate when I say 30 seconds and 3 mins, I looked at the clock on wall and draw her attention to say 25 mins left in my booking, she didn't believe and used her phone timer (which her set up earlier but even though still 10 mins left even on her phone timer). She realised she's wrong but kept saying time up now. Ok, I hj myself, asked again if I can kiss her? No. Hugging? No.


To this point, I totally lost my interests, used my phone translator to tell her "It's your freedom to choose this shop, no one forced you to earn this rate, you can if you want to choose a premium shop, but as long as you worked in this shop you should at least provide basic service". And walked out the room earlier before booking ends. Walked down the stairs, told the receptionist Amber the very same thing. Amber knows that I was a regular client and apologised several times.


I rarely used sh*t service to describe a girl, I don't want to insult or offend any girls, they worked hard and just want to make some money. But today I really think J miru didn't worth a dollor to spend on her


In conclusion, damage for me today, $260 for the 45 mins booking, 2 * $6.2 parking tickets (because the girl couldn't be on time I had to get 2 ticket to avoid possible fines)


WIR for the girl, NO. I been very tolerant with almost every girls, I always say to receptions that everything is fine the girls is fine, even it is not that fine. You folks hardly see me to post a bad AR for a girl even I just had another bad experience in 108 a few weeks ago, I didn't say anything. However J miru today is just RIDICULOUS


WIR for the shop, NO. I like Amber at 206 reception, she is very lovely girl and has done a very good job, but 206/57 had failed me not one time, not two time, but many times which girls just can't provide service as described (diamond service), that’s ENOUGH. Not mentioned to that today J miru just break a record, LOWEST service score, 1/10 for her service.

[xxxdindin]

To the dear 206/57 shop owner, you should ask Amber if I was a regular client of 206/57 and spent some good money in kyoto 206 in 2021, 2022, and earlier in sakura 57 in 2018. There was one older lady when I walked out the door today, who claimed herslef to manage japs girls in 206, well she clearly didn't get her job done properly, because you can't use the excuse that Oh it is the girl first day so we don't know about the girl, so the customers need to embrace it no matter it's good or bad. Well, I know ginza didn't use that excuse, N5M hardly use that excuse. I think ginza has some pre-start training session to prevent first day incident and they do well

[xxxdindin]

when ginza managed J Miru, her service was 5 or 6 out of 10. Not great, but met some minumum standards that draw me to revisit her again

J miru under 206 management, her service was 1 out of 10

Same girl, see the difference?

[SlippinJimmy]

Garbage service however I would have walked and asked for a refund when the negotiations started. 15 mins plus the ungrateful attitude should be a full refund.

The poisonous "extras" culture that ruined punting in Melbourne could happen in Sydney

[Wsbird]

Agree. He shoukd ask for a full refund. Better stick to the shops that proves reliable.

[mn69]

Ok, I don't know where to start “Roasting”

For folks who visited ginza couple months ago, kyoto 206 J miru is ginza J miru, same name, same girl

For folks who hadn't seen J miru at ginza, here are Jack mate's report,

http://www.aus99forum.com/showthread...-Asian)/page23
http://www.aus99forum.com/showthread...ting-Ft-J-Miru

as can see J miru's service is around 6 (out of 10). Not great, but she looks like one of my previous girls, I seen her at ginza last time and decided to revisit her when she on kyoto 206's roaster today.


Booked 12pm, 've been told the girl changed to 1pm, ok changed my booking to 1pm. Walked in at 1pm, 've been told girl was not ready, ok waited again. Another 30mins waiting, the girl finally ready.


Walked in the room, J miru recognised me, she started using google translator on her phone asking me if I made the payment to the shop, I was like, "yeah...sure, of course I needed to pay to the shop first to see you". Then she asked me if I wanted same options (she used "chipping money" in the translator, I guess she wanted to say "tipping money"). I really confused with her translation so she showed me her notes on her phone says "No condom sex $xxx", ok I got your ideas now but I just wanna have a safe sex so I refused. She seeing me to decline her offer, persuaded if I want to do "filming", No I don't have filming fantasy so I refused again. TO THIS POINT, she didn't offend me, I understand some girls need money sometimes so they want to provide extra options.


HOWEVER, things go south from here. After I decline her offers twice, she asked me if I can just tip her? I wasn't quite sure if she just want me to give her money for free (because I clearly said I don't want no condom sex and filming ), so I asked her again. "Yes, I don't earn enough money in this shop so if you can tip me I will try to provide good service, because working in this shop doesn't bring me the money I want, I will go to a premium shop later maybe", she used her phone translator to show me. For the record, I don't like the tipping culture in America because customers already paid products and services together in the price, I saw some silly waitress beating customers if they don't receive tips on youtube, but this is in Australia, if I really like the service I can tip, that's after I have received some 5 star service, how can you ask me to tip you even before any services?? (And again I don't do tipping in shops, I just book longer hours with the girl and do one sex and do the talking for the rest hours, so girls happy they get money and resting, shops happy they get more money, me happy I got better service, everyone happy). I refused again for the tipping. J miru saw that she couldn't get extra money from me, she became unhappy and started to complain that why I didn't tipping her (I understand some Japanese words like money, like why, so I can put together that she complain why I didn't tip her), 15mins passed from my 45mins booking now because she kept using phone to ask me for extra, options and tips. Until now I still treat her like a naughty girl who didn't get the candy. THINGS proved I could be very wrong.


On to bed, she had that poker face (was smily when asking for extra money) and "no kissing" when I tried to kiss her, 30 seconds bbbj and 3 mins sex, she asked me if I had cum and finish because time up. I wish I chose the filming option so I can prove to you guys that I didn't exaggerate when I say 30 seconds and 3 mins, I looked at the clock on wall and draw her attention to say 25 mins left in my booking, she didn't believe and used her phone timer (which her set up earlier but even though still 10 mins left even on her phone timer). She realised she's wrong but kept saying time up now. Ok, I hj myself, asked again if I can kiss her? No. Hugging? No.


To this point, I totally lost my interests, used my phone translator to tell her "It's your freedom to choose this shop, no one forced you to earn this rate, you can if you want to choose a premium shop, but as long as you worked in this shop you should at least provide basic service". And walked out the room earlier before booking ends. Walked down the stairs, told the receptionist Amber the very same thing. Amber knows that I was a regular client and apologised several times.


I rarely used sh*t service to describe a girl, I don't want to insult or offend any girls, they worked hard and just want to make some money. But today I really think J miru didn't worth a dollor to spend on her


In conclusion, damage for me today, $260 for the 45 mins booking, 2 * $6.2 parking tickets (because the girl couldn't be on time I had to get 2 ticket to avoid possible fines)


WIR for the girl, NO. I been very tolerant with almost every girls, I always say to receptions that everything is fine the girls is fine, even it is not that fine. You folks hardly see me to post a bad AR for a girl even I just had another bad experience in 108 a few weeks ago, I didn't say anything. However J miru today is just RIDICULOUS


WIR for the shop, NO. I like Amber at 206 reception, she is very lovely girl and has done a very good job, but 206/57 had failed me not one time, not two time, but many times which girls just can't provide service as described (diamond service), that’s ENOUGH. Not mentioned to that today J miru just break a record, LOWEST service score, 1/10 for her service.

Thanks for AR bro. Wow thats the worst. What the hells happening!!! Japanese girls are usually known for good service.

So many girls now are money hungry.

This is seriously worse than a Chinese girl's service

Doesn't she know she will make more money if she establishes a regular customer base.

No business or financial intelligence. Thats why she ain't making any money

Ginza would fire these sorts of girls straight away

[xxxdindin]

Garbage service however I would have walked and asked for a refund when the negotiations started. 15 mins plus the ungrateful attitude should be a full refund.

The poisonous "extras" culture that ruined punting in Melbourne could happen in Sydney

You're right I should have walked when the negotiations started.

I have to say it's first time to experience the girl provided sh*t service once I declined her extra options. I mean some japan girls offered same previously at the shops, no one get offended, I understand the girls want to make more money, the girls understand I don't want the extra service, and we continue the normal service once I don't want the extra, no one get upset

J miru is like she will provide shit service if I don't tip her or purchase from her extra options, that's what I didn't expect until too late to realise

[Costy]

That’s a terrible experience for sure, everyone’s worst fear when going for a punt. Not a good advertisement for the shop. After reading that they should be scrambling to make things right. But from what I’ve read about them, probably not.

[Sexybee]

Miru at Ginza did a normal job, nothing special because I only booked her 30minutes. It’s my choice to book her although receptionist said she was ok. I thought she must be tired when she did DFK, BBBJ listlessly. I lied to boys that she was good because I always think it would be harder for these young girls to come here to make money.

[xxxdindin]

Thanks for AR bro. Wow thats the worst. What the hells happening!!! Japanese girls are usually known for good service.

So many girls now are money hungry.

This is seriously worse than a Chinese girl's service

Doesn't she know she will make more money if she establishes a regular customer base.

No business or financial intelligence. Thats why she ain't making any money

Ginza would fire these sorts of girls straight away

Man you're right, she doens't have business or financial intelligence.

I believe even I agreed with tipping her or paying extra, she would still only provide an ok service (not great not excellent) because I feel she is that kind of girls just want to get some quick and esay money without working

Shops are the same way if they don't care reputation they will be defeated in the competition

[xxxdindin]

That’s a terrible experience for sure, everyone’s worst fear when going for a punt. Not a good advertisement for the shop. After reading that they should be scrambling to make things right. But from what I’ve read about them, probably not.

Sadly (and you're right), Not.

Short term, I got hit.

Long term, market will give the shop corrections.

[xxxdindin]

Miru at Ginza did a normal job, nothing special because I only booked her 30minutes. It’s my choice to book her although receptionist said she was ok. I thought she must be tired when she did DFK, BBBJ listlessly. I lied to boys that she was good because I always think it would be harder for these young girls to come here to make money.

Mate, very same reason I told the boys she was good when at ginza. I didn't want to make difficulty for any girls, so even when some times the reception said they will displine the girls, I said no that's all fine. I know girls need to make some money.

Things turn out I could be very wrong (for some girls)

[High69]

That's terrible! Than drained your wallet, and I haven't seen any positive reviews. I wonder if the issue lies with the worker or the management

[Sexybee]

Taking my story as an example, Ramu at Ginza was so good, 9 out of 10. I booked her N5M, 7 out of 10 even though she knew me, 4 out of 10 at Kyoto 206. I said to myself I was shamed for myself, why did I book her again and again.


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[mn69]

I've constantly noticed when a girl moves from Ginza, her service levels drop significantly. Then continues to drop more as she moves to other shops

Seen J Ramu as well by the way. Her service levels weren't "S or A" Tier level to start off with anyway.

So bottom line, when a girl moves from Ginza, proceed with caution.

There are exceptions though. I mean, girls like K Hanna still maintained her high level of service even though she moved.

[xxxdindin]

That's terrible! Than drained your wallet, and I haven't seen any positive reviews. I wonder if the issue lies with the worker or the management

Mate, I also wonder if these is one fellow punter standing up and claim he had a great time with J miru and gave a very good review (as long as it's honest) and looking forward to meeting the girl more. I dare one.

[xxxdindin]

Taking my story as an example, Ramu at Ginza was so good, 9 out of 10. I booked her N5M, 7 out of 10 even though she knew me, 4 out of 10 at Kyoto 206. I said to myself I was shamed for myself, why did I book her again and again.


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Thanks for sharing the story. I almost booked Ramu at different shops.

Some girls are not being grateful for repeat customers, because the girls think they can play 'game' now.

They will learn that they need to put in more effort to please a new customer than pleasing a repeat customer...Same for the shops.

[Meng]

The fact that she's still on roster means they don't give a fuck and the girls can pick up on it too. If the shop don't give a fuck then the girls won't give a fuck.

[mn69]

It seems its mainly Ginza who care's about their customers and customer feedback

Other shops should take note. Its the customers who pay their salaries. Without customers they will go broke & bankrupt

[secret0]

I only started punting last month, but I've been reading the forum for about 4 years now, and seeing stuff like this is why I decided to only visit Ginza (and might chance N5M/42G).
Other shops just don't seem to care at all, and probably because there aren't enough complaints and no direct consequences as they've stayed in business this whole time. I check 206/57's roster every now and then, but they come up a lot in the shitty service stories for both shop and girls.

Like with other stuff these days (gaming, eating out, etc), customers can only make a difference if they vote (or walk) with their wallets, and just not spend at the known shitty places if they're not going to provide good or even a basic level of service.