Another newb punter

[Strommer]

Hi all,

By way of introduction, I'm a 40's something bloke who not too far back split from a long term marriage and though I'm not looking for another girl, I miss the intimacy.

Never been involved in the punting business before and am completely green, so I have some questions.

I've been reading here and there on the forum, after reports, general questions etc and I apologise if some of this is covered but here we go.

My thinking is to start with a RnT and move my way up to FS from there over time. I'm a shy guy and only really ever had the one girl, (my wife) who wasn't great in bed so I'm looking to have some nice experiences.

Been reading after reports and I'm thinking of visiting 227 North Strathfield as my first massage and maybe jump straight in at the great Ester.

Question - Does the cost of the massage cover the HJ ending? I assume it does, their site states extras are $100. Would this mean they offer FS, or BBBJ?

Question - How do I book an appointment, WeChat? Or SMS to the mobile on site, or ring?

Question - What can I expect from the visit? I mean, once we move to part 2 of the massage, the WL is naked yes? Is touching allowed from the massage service without extras. So can I grab her tits and ass etc? Do they stand next to the massage table or can you ask them to sit on the table down between your legs and go from there if you like? I'd love to get a nice look at her body, pussy etc, as I said only been with one lady so I'm looking to see more female bodies for the WB (Wank Bank).

I tried to post this thread earlier today but somehow it didn't post. Sorry Mods if this is a dupe or something.

As I said, I'm new, and I am sure I will have more questions as the come to me.

[11Bravo]

By way of introduction, I'm a 40's something bloke who not too far back split from a long term marriage and though I'm not looking for another girl, I miss the intimacy.

Hopefully, by intimacy, you mean sex. That's all it is, sex. BUSINESS transactional sex.

First, read the manual:
http://www.aus99forum.com/showthread...=1#post3047467
Yes, it's old, but still very applicable.
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My thinking is to start with a RnT and move my way up to FS from there over time.

RnT, DEPENDING on the provider and somewhat the shop, can cover FS, up to the provider and you. It's basically:

Part 1: massage
Part 2: NHJ
Part 2a: Additional sexual stimulation up to but NOT including FS (e.g., B2B, oral, Spanish, etc.)
Part 3: FS
There are variations in pricing, but consider each step over Part 1 to be in increments of $50

Been reading after reports and I'm thinking of visiting 227 North Strathfield as my first massage and maybe jump straight in at the great Ester.

I'll assume this is the Ester aka Pen. She is a great girl. I'm not familiar with 227 NS, I am familiar with Summerville, Pyrmont. Summerville is hard to beat. Yes, the base price was $90, but that gets you a very nice room with an en-suite shower (worth the $20 extra to me). Great website, you can check the roster for when Pen is on. Here nothing extra is included in the price, the $90 is strictly massage. Other shops, say $130, include the NHJ in the base price. I prefer the "exclude" shops, not the "inclusive" shops. Reason is, with some ladies at the "inclusive" shops, for further upgrades, they DON'T consider the $50 already included in the base price. Thus, for FS, in the exclude shops, total would be $90 (or whatever massage price is) + $150 (which includes the intermediary foreplay acts). In the "inclusive" shops, it could very well be $135 + $150 as she conveniently forgets the included $50, wanting the $150 FS price DIRECTLY in her palm.

Question - Does the cost of the massage cover the HJ ending? I assume it does, their site states extras are $100. Would this mean they offer FS, or BBBJ?

See above. I prefer to negotiate with the provider DIRECTLY. That way, there is no misunderstandings. I don't know what the extra $100 could cover, whether it would be FS or BJ, and I WOULDN'T assume it's a BBBJ, it could very well be CBJ. That's why you should ask the provider DIRECTLY.

Perhaps someone else, more familiar with this shop could answer, but ALWAYS remember, in RnT, in EVERYTHING, YMMV.

Question - How do I book an appointment, WeChat? Or SMS to the mobile on site, or ring?

Again, depends on the shop. I prefer WeChat or SMS as there's a record. Once you have a regular, get her WeChat. Not to bypass the shop, but just to make sure everyone is on the same page. Some providers will make the booking for you, others will tell you to talk to the shop, but I like to have everyone on the same page (e.g. she can tell you she's limited duty).

Question - What can I expect from the visit? I mean, once we move to part 2 of the massage, the WL is naked yes? Is touching allowed from the massage service without extras. So can I grab her tits and ass etc? Do they stand next to the massage table or can you ask them to sit on the table down between your legs and go from there if you like? I'd love to get a nice look at her body, pussy etc, as I said only been with one lady so I'm looking to see more female bodies for the WB (Wank Bank).

Check the manual. Talk directly to the provider with what you're looking for BEFORE you start, get her agreement and price. Or, just relax and go with the flow. See what she's serving on her menu to you. I'd say with most providers, given it's BUSINESS, getting handsy without intending to upgrade will be frowned upon. Most will allow as it's the enticement for upgrades, just be polite about it. For the inclusive shops, touching would be allowed, the excluded shops, probably, within reason. Remember, her body is what she's selling, and it's bad business to not get full value for the product. Once she knows you, you're a regular, money in the bank, she'll want you coming back.

I tried to post this thread earlier today but somehow it didn't post. Sorry Mods if this is a dupe or something.

Remember, a newbie's posts take time to appear due to moderation delay. Be patient. This too will pass.

Bottom line: if you want a sex show, go to a brothel, give her your script. For RnT, which I prefer, it's more laid back. Myself, I always book an hour, just so I have time to relax and enjoy. Difference in price is usually minor relative to everything else. For just starting out, I started slow:
http://www.aus99forum.com/showthread...=1#post2624542

I'd suggest you decide beforehand exactly what service you're looking for, how much you're willing to pay, then go from there. With a simple NHJ, I wouldn't expect her to give you a sex show, though, depending on how glib you are, might happen. Also set your demographics, SYT to MILF. To stay competitive, MILF's usually might offer a bit more, but as I've said, EVERYTHING is YMMV with RnT's.

Good luck.

BTW: they all have the same BASIC equipment, sizes and presentation vary.

[Hogrider]

Last line killed it

Chad - BTW: they all have the same BASIC equipment, sizes and presentation vary.

[PervySage]

Welcome to punting,

as on of the earlier replies said it's all transactional and while doing so u may become a "regular" to an ML / WL and with it u may feel a connection and it may also be reciprocal its still transactional.

Plenty of threads on this forum about a punter falling for the lady.

Epping 41 and NS 227 are great places to start, they are some of my regular punting grounds!

[Strommer]

Thanks for the info all.

Read the guide through, not sure how I missed it earlier.

Question on payment -

Massage fee, then extra 50 for NHJ. I get that. But then the guide says all inclusive shops the price is $60, does that price include the NHJ? So if it's an all inclusive shop I can book a longer session and know it's included? Can I just straight out ask What does that include when booking?

Paying in advance - and the guide mentions 227 Broadway here, does that mean paying all up front to the reception, but the guide also states "If you pay up front, pay the ML directly in the room. Never give this fee to reception." This seems a contradiction.

Question on time - Booking the 45 minute massage is just the massage, if I then opt for extras, those extras all have to be completed within the 45 minute timeframe? Considering the ML here, I am sure they would not want someone just to pay for a massage and lay there for 45 minutes, and I doubt blokes are going to these shop just for a massage anyway, so I am right adduming whatever time you pay for, your extras all happen within that time.

Another question on extras - I pay for massage 45 minutes, then we talk about extras. "Standard Extras" fee seems to be $50, which is the NHJ, but if a lady is open to BBBJ, is that on top of the 50 NHJ? Or does this fee replace the NHJ fee?

Thanks for the info again.

Just trying to learn as much as I can on what to expect before turning up and making an arse of myself.

[Celery]

Hopefully, by intimacy, you mean sex. That's all it is, sex. BUSINESS transactional sex.

These days you can get whats called a girl friend experience where you can hug and kiss the girl for the whole hours youre there. Try that OP, you might catch feelings for one of them.

[F0x]

I think it's sensible starting with RnT and working to a brothel.

You can dictate a bit more what you are spending on, and if it's a bad experience, you hopefully didn't lose as much as a brothel.

Esther is a good place to start but you'll be spoilt. A lot of the punts you have after will not feel the same.
I'm almost inclined to say try a random first so you can savour how good she is after!

The key takeaway I'd give you is 3 things:

1. YMMV. Always remember this one. You'll read wild reports of so and so giving the entire fuckin' alphabet to someone and you rock up and get nothing more than a mere suggestion of a handjob. Take it with a grain of salt and move on. Maybe you got her on a bad day or she just didn't like you, heck knows. Just shoot a report though if you want and leave it at that, book someone else.

2. For the best chance at the higher positive service end of YMMV, show up clean and presented. She's a human and even above that she's a woman. She notices and assesses this kind of shit harder than NASA trying to probe Uranus. You turn up like a half baked drug dealer high on his own supply, feel privileged she's even in the same room with you. Respect goes a long way towards the higher end of Mileage varying.

3. Don't lose your head. As mentioned this is business, not pleasure for them. Yes you'll encounter ML and WL you'll want to fall for (I'm sure Esther herself has more than a few puppy dogs around her) but at the end of the day no matter how into they seem or whatnot, they are still doing this for money not because you made them 'cum' 20 times in your window of play you got. Now yes they are again human (the ML/WL) and feelings 'could' develop somehow, but it's likely not hers. We really don't need another 'fallen for....' thread, and you are especially susceptible splitting from a long term and looking for 'intimacy'.

Make like a dislexic Caesar:

I saw, I came, I left.

Happy Punting
- F0x

[Strommer]

I think it's sensible starting with RnT and working to a brothel.

You can dictate a bit more what you are spending on, and if it's a bad experience, you hopefully didn't lose as much as a brothel.

Esther is a good place to start but you'll be spoilt. A lot of the punts you have after will not feel the same.
I'm almost inclined to say try a random first so you can savour how good she is after!

The key takeaway I'd give you is 3 things:

1. YMMV. Always remember this one. You'll read wild reports of so and so giving the entire fuckin' alphabet to someone and you rock up and get nothing more than a mere suggestion of a handjob. Take it with a grain of salt and move on. Maybe you got her on a bad day or she just didn't like you, heck knows. Just shoot a report though if you want and leave it at that, book someone else.

2. For the best chance at the higher positive service end of YMMV, show up clean and presented. She's a human and even above that she's a woman. She notices and assesses this kind of shit harder than NASA trying to probe Uranus. You turn up like a half baked drug dealer high on his own supply, feel privileged she's even in the same room with you. Respect goes a long way towards the higher end of Mileage varying.

3. Don't lose your head. As mentioned this is business, not pleasure for them. Yes you'll encounter ML and WL you'll want to fall for (I'm sure Esther herself has more than a few puppy dogs around her) but at the end of the day no matter how into they seem or whatnot, they are still doing this for money not because you made them 'cum' 20 times in your window of play you got. Now yes they are again human (the ML/WL) and feelings 'could' develop somehow, but it's likely not hers. We really don't need another 'fallen for....' thread, and you are especially susceptible splitting from a long term and looking for 'intimacy'.

Make like a dislexic Caesar:

I saw, I came, I left.

Happy Punting
- F0x

Hey thanks for the reply.

Don't worry I'm not looking to fall for anybody, not interested in another partner. Thats what I meant when I posted I'm not looking for another girl, intimacy I meant sexual contact, not the connection I got from a partner. I know I'm not getting that from a WL.

Turn up clean, not to worry there I am a clean bloke normally. Respectful, polite etc. I'm sure that side will be fine.

[vitamin]

Like people have already mentioned.

Number 1 hazard in punting is catching feelings.

Basically
Don't Catch Feelings!

Use the rule of 3.
Don't see the same girl 3 times in a row
Don't see them 3 times in a week

They'll be sweet, nice, bring you ecstasy.

It's only natural to start feeing you really like this gem.

Just remember. It's a fantasy. Not real.


It's all too tempting. You see a girl. Have great Chemistry. Have an amazing session and you cum harder than you've ever come before.
You think about when's the next time you can see them again and do it. You book. You daydream. You book again.

Don't do that.

Don't see them 3 times in a row. Don't see them 3 times in a week.

Put some other punts in between with different girls in between.

[Roshtosh]

The other major hazard is you have a good time and you want more, again and again. Be very careful.

[rooter]

Punting is awesome!
Just memorise the rooter mantra.
Pay. Fuck. Leave.
Or the even simpler version, Switch on. Switch off.
Remember this and you will always punt happily ... I been doing it for many years an fucked many girls maybe close to 2000 and i am the happiest man in the world ... enjoy! well actually alcohol and the occasional smoke and snort are also good too ...

[11Bravo]

Read the guide through, not sure how I missed it earlier.

It's old and somewhat buried; why I put a link to it in the tutorials.

Massage fee, then extra 50 for NHJ. I get that. But then the guide says all inclusive shops the price is $60, does that price include the NHJ? So if it's an all inclusive shop I can book a longer session and know it's included? Can I just straight out ask What does that include when booking?

How long is the $60 for? 30 minutes? Remember too, the guide is a number of years old, though I still use it's increments 50/100/150 in my excursions. My gauge has an inclusive shop $130/hour.

Never hurts to ask.

Paying in advance - and the guide mentions 227 Broadway here, does that mean paying all up front to the reception, but the guide also states "If you pay up front, pay the ML directly in the room. Never give this fee to reception." This seems a contradiction.

If there's a receptionist, most often you'll pay at the front desk for the MASSAGE. Extras are between you and the girl. In the small shops, the provider might do double duty - you first pay her in the room for the massage, she ducks out to deliver the money to the boss while you strip, soon returning to start the massage.

Question on time - Booking the 45 minute massage is just the massage, if I then opt for extras, those extras all have to be completed within the 45 minute timeframe? Considering the ML here, I am sure they would not want someone just to pay for a massage and lay there for 45 minutes, and I doubt blokes are going to these shop just for a massage anyway, so I am right adduming whatever time you pay for, your extras all happen within that time.

You are booking the room, with a massage included for whatever time you say. Now, whatever happens in that room during that time is up to you and the provider. So yes, whatever time you choose, ALL transactions must be concluded within that time.

Whenever I receive an OTT price quote, I just pass, telling her to continue with the massage. Given that the providers make their coin via the extras, she has to figure the loss of her earning time compared to offering a lower price, perhaps for a lower class of service.
Example:
How much for FS?
No FS. Fine, her decision.
How much for oral?
150.
No thank you, just the massage, please. Massage continues for 5 minutes.
How much you pay for oral?
$100
OK, oral (CBJ) for $100

Another question on extras - I pay for massage 45 minutes, then we talk about extras. "Standard Extras" fee seems to be $50, which is the NHJ, but if a lady is open to BBBJ, is that on top of the 50 NHJ? Or does this fee replace the NHJ fee?

Dream on. All upgrade fees are ADDED to the charges for lower charges. So, NHJ=$50. Oral (and I never assume BBBJ) will be another $50 added on to the NHJ fee. Or, if you want to think of it another way, oral is $100 above the massage fee, and it will include a NHJ along with the oral. Likewise, FS is $150 over and above the massage fee, and will include a NHJ and some oral.

Just trying to learn as much as I can on what to expect before turning up and making an arse of myself.

That's half the fun, but then again, you do have to have the capability to laugh at yourself.

Use the rule of 3.
Don't see them 3 times in a row. Don't see them 3 times in a week.

Put some other punts in between with different girls in between.

OK, but for mature adults, forget the number rules.
Offshore, I'd see a the same girl EVERY week for months, and that was TRUE LT, all night, 12-14 hours. Good times, but then again, I AM able to discern the difference between sex and love (and also infatuation).

Here, I see regulars every week, though I will see other regulars the same: Miss Tuesday, Miss Thursday, Miss Friday. The trouble is when there are 2 Miss Thursdays - I alternate weeks between them.

These days you can get whats called a girl friend experience where you can hug and kiss the girl for the whole hours youre there. Try that OP, you might catch feelings for one of them.

Nah, I come for the massage and the sex. Don't need a gfe for an hour.

[Strommer]

It's old and somewhat buried; why I put a link to it in the tutorials.


How long is the $60 for? 30 minutes? Remember too, the guide is a number of years old, though I still use it's increments 50/100/150 in my excursions. My gauge has an inclusive shop $130/hour.


If there's a receptionist, most often you'll pay at the front desk for the MASSAGE. Extras are between you and the girl. In the small shops, the provider might do double duty - you first pay her in the room for the massage, she ducks out to deliver the money to the boss while you strip, soon returning to start the massage.


You are booking the room, with a massage included for whatever time you say. Now, whatever happens in that room during that time is up to you and the provider. So yes, whatever time you choose, ALL transactions must be concluded within that time.

Whenever I receive an OTT price quote, I just pass, telling her to continue with the massage. Given that the providers make their coin via the extras, she has to figure the loss of her earning time compared to offering a lower price, perhaps for a lower class of service.
Example:
How much for FS?
No FS. Fine, her decision.
How much for oral?
150.
No thank you, just the massage, please. Massage continues for 5 minutes.
How much you pay for oral?
$100
OK, oral (CBJ) for $100


Dream on. All upgrade fees are ADDED to the charges for lower charges. So, NHJ=$50. Oral (and I never assume BBBJ) will be another $50 added on to the NHJ fee. Or, if you want to think of it another way, oral is $100 above the massage fee, and it will include a NHJ along with the oral. Likewise, FS is $150 over and above the massage fee, and will include a NHJ and some oral.



That's have the fun, but then again, you do have to have the capability to laugh at yourself.


OK, but for mature adults, forget the number rules.
Offshore, I'd see a the same girl EVERY week for months, and that was TRUE LT, all night, 12-14 hours. Good times, but then again, I AM able to discern the difference between sex and love (and also infatuation).

Here, I see regulars every week, though I will see other regulars the same: Miss Tuesday, Miss Thursday, Miss Friday. The trouble is when there are 2 Miss Thursdays - I alternate weeks between them.


Nah, I come for the massage and the sex.

Great info again thank you.

As for the GFE I'm not interested in that either. I might have given people the wrong impression using the term intimacy in my first post. To my thinking that is the sex part. Companionship or connection is what I'd call catching feels for them. I'm not interested.

My story as I said is I've been with the same woman for my entire sexual life and now that relationship is done. I'm not sure I will ever want another partner. But if I'm going to go through the rest of my life without a partner, then I am not willing to do so without sexual contact.

That is where ML and WL come in.

I want these ladies to pleasure me, without me being required to pleasure them back. I'm going there for my own self sexually.

And only ever having had sex with 1 woman, I'm not going to die without trying others. But I don't want to have to go through a relationship to get it. Maybe one day, but not now, now it's just for me.

Just the thought of getting a massage from an attractive naked, and 20-30 year old who then makes me cum is enough for me at the moment.

I am making an initial rule though of not going back to an ML or WL for 1 month after my first. Give me time to experience it, let it sink in etc.

Not sure when I will get the chance to take my first punt. Hopefully not too long. I look forward to it.

Ok, so another question.

If I book for 45 minutes which is my plan, seems the sweet spot for me and the ML. But I plan on extras. Can I ask the ML to skip the massage or cut it shorter to get in to the extras?

Also, my plan is to get in to the room, talk with the WL straight up during the initial chatting, and get out of the way the extras which would be the NHJ at minimum and make sure that money is in her hands at the outset. My thinking is that way she knows she is going to get her money, no hassles, and she can relax and concentrate on the job. Pleasing me.

Also with becoming a regular, how often would you need to see the same girl to considered a regular? Monthly, fortnightly?

Ta to everyone for the info.

[F0x]

Great info again thank you.

As for the GFE I'm not interested in that either. I might have given people the wrong impression using the term intimacy in my first post. To my thinking that is the sex part. Companionship or connection is what I'd call catching feels for them. I'm not interested.

My story as I said is I've been with the same woman for my entire sexual life and now that relationship is done. I'm not sure I will ever want another partner. But if I'm going to go through the rest of my life without a partner, then I am not willing to do so without sexual contact.

That is where ML and WL come in.

I want these ladies to pleasure me, without me being required to pleasure them back. I'm going there for my own self sexually.

And only ever having had sex with 1 woman, I'm not going to die without trying others. But I don't want to have to go through a relationship to get it. Maybe one day, but not now, now it's just for me.

Just the thought of getting a massage from an attractive naked, and 20-30 year old who then makes me cum is enough for me at the moment.

I am making an initial rule though of not going back to an ML or WL for 1 month after my first. Give me time to experience it, let it sink in etc.

Not sure when I will get the chance to take my first punt. Hopefully not too long. I look forward to it.

Ok, so another question.

If I book for 45 minutes which is my plan, seems the sweet spot for me and the ML. But I plan on extras. Can I ask the ML to skip the massage or cut it shorter to get in to the extras?

Also, my plan is to get in to the room, talk with the WL straight up during the initial chatting, and get out of the way the extras which would be the NHJ at minimum and make sure that money is in her hands at the outset. My thinking is that way she knows she is going to get her money, no hassles, and she can relax and concentrate on the job. Pleasing me.

Also with becoming a regular, how often would you need to see the same girl to considered a regular? Monthly, fortnightly?

Ta to everyone for the info.

45 is good and what I normally opt for even on a first meet unless some other time restriction.

It's the Goldilocks timing imho.

You can absolutely ask to skip, but whether they do or not is at their discretion. Obviously a WL will probably prefer not to give you a massage that's not their strong suit.

Don't press or try and shorten of the ML want to massage you. I have an ML I've seen a couple of times who I end up FS with but she insists on the massage first. Fine, do your thing.

Having said that you'll also find if you go to a particular shop often enough, you might try someone new and be surprised they want to play immediately. This is likely because the girls talk, and if you've been a respectable gentleman, word gets around and other girls will be immediately more friendly with you. Social proofing, works even when your p4p.

I'd say you'd need to see a girl a minimum 3 times to become a regular.

First is the meet, then the get to know and third the 'firming' of yeah I will continue to see you.

If they are spaced like a half a year apart though, probably not gonna do it, but you'd be very surprised at some girls memory if you made an impression.

I remember I had only seen someone at Parra Blossom once (don't recall her name) and because I don't go there often if at all, I only got to back there some time later and oddly she still remembered me.

Probably helps that I'm tattooed.

Happy punting!

[hadog]

As someone who has been in your shoes. I can only offer you advice based on my experience.

A Happy Massage is the gateway drug, they are a good introduction and a way to ease yourself in to all this. 45mins is a good time, 30mins seems too quick, and 1hr+ is for when you have found a provider you enjoy the massage and more from. Enjoy your experience, when extras come up sometimes simply asking "whats on the menu" will suffice, instead of worrying ahead of time. Then again, some places the charge at the beginning is all inclusive of massage and NHJ, just depends. If its 45mins, and 100+ its probably all inclusive.

The only other thing would to not let Decision paralysis get in the way. It might just be me, but when I have decided to go for a massage/punt I can often get stuck reviewing rosters for hours before deciding, or sometimes not deciding. This might just be a me thing tho.

Good Luck!

[Strommer]

As someone who has been in your shoes. I can only offer you advice based on my experience.

A Happy Massage is the gateway drug, they are a good introduction and a way to ease yourself in to all this. 45mins is a good time, 30mins seems too quick, and 1hr+ is for when you have found a provider you enjoy the massage and more from. Enjoy your experience, when extras come up sometimes simply asking "whats on the menu" will suffice, instead of worrying ahead of time. Then again, some places the charge at the beginning is all inclusive of massage and NHJ, just depends. If its 45mins, and 100+ its probably all inclusive.

The only other thing would to not let Decision paralysis get in the way. It might just be me, but when I have decided to go for a massage/punt I can often get stuck reviewing rosters for hours before deciding, or sometimes not deciding. This might just be a me thing tho.

Good Luck!

Ha, yes I admit I have spent some time reviewing rosters and thinking yeah, I could go a NHJ from that sweet thing.

But then I'm not ready to go yet. I've got Influenza A so aren't going to go whilst I have that.

Maybe over the next month I'll get some time to get my first punt out of the way.

[Strommer]

I'm thinking this Saturday will be the day to get my first punt out of the way.

I'm also thinking Ryde Massage is going to be the place and wanted to book Jane if possible but Rosters seem to come out night before for this shop.

I messaged their mobile today just saying my name and if they know Jane will be on Saturday, and mentioned I wanted to make a booking Saturday for a massage.

Didn't get a respone all day. Are they slow to respond generally? Better off rining them direct?

How does a bloke go about getting a booking? Or better to just turn up first thing, get a lineup, pick one and go. Do they take your mobile down if you just turn up so they know you when you message next time?

[tezzaman18]

Turning up clean should include orally clean i.e your breadth.

This is irrespective of going to a RNT shop or brothel. Since you are after intimacy you may be looking for someone providing DFK. You need to taste good. I don't depend on the mouthwash provided by the ML/WL.

Hey thanks for the reply.

Don't worry I'm not looking to fall for anybody, not interested in another partner. Thats what I meant when I posted I'm not looking for another girl, intimacy I meant sexual contact, not the connection I got from a partner. I know I'm not getting that from a WL.

Turn up clean, not to worry there I am a clean bloke normally. Respectful, polite etc. I'm sure that side will be fine.

[Strommer]

Ok yes, elbows and arseholes. Wash the dick wash the bum, scrub the teeth and scape the tongue.

Righto, I've been newly baptised, blessed and talcum powdered.

I'm not a Gronk. I'm a clean guy.

I promise my odor wont be an issue. I even vacuumed the foreskin.

[PussyBonpensiero]

First step is to not create multiple identities and bullshit posts.

Keep vacuuming your foreskin though.