So I just did some numbers.
On the General Talk front page 19 posts are by Shops and 21 are by Punters. On the After Report front page 29 posts are by Shops and 13 are by Punters.
I know you can attack me for being the biggest fan of Yamady, so dont waste your time doing that.
Can we think of a way to make this better to save the forum's integrity?
Keep it constructive please.
forbid advertisers to post adverts in punters after reports. I dont check forum as much anymore, too much thread bumps by advertisers. You guys are just ruining the advertising punters leave for you. I want to read other punters feedback after reading the report, then trying for themselves. sigh...
If the advertisers only bring up threads of those on roster, and only one thread per girl instead of 3-4 threads for every girl, basically all the reports for the same girl, that would clear up a lot of space !
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I agree with you HookedonHookerz!Originally Posted by HookedonHookerz
i start keep thread on general section and AR section.
im very fair for doing this, i do not have sub ID and i use this ID only and keep thread my self.
not only me does keep the thread on general and AR section, i do not mind what ever you guys say to me.
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I do like it when shop owners interact with us. I find yamada a very funny person. I don't even mind that 3 line advertisement in his signature but when owners take the opportunity to post rosters in a punter's AR or in the general section, it makes me think less of the shop. That's one reason why I had never visited MOC or TMC.
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TOTALLY AGREE
When I logged on at around 6 this morning it was even worse than your mix:
- 32 shop posts - spammed by Yamada and Myoutcall with a couple from 5 Star
- 8 member posts !!
WTF
I have been to Yamada, Myoutcall and 5 Star.
1) Yamada - yes funny guy and girls are OK - but now as soon as log in and see the stream of Yamada posts honestly my eyes just glaze over ... and scroll down fast mode !!
Plus plethora of posts only equalled by lack of real information:
- no detailed description
- no photos or link to website with descriptions and photos aka Myoutcall - and don't say just ring or email for photos - yes he has replied twice but over the last few months ignored my emails over 8 times - and I can see from others I am not alone here !!
Throttle back Yamada as you are building a lot of negative equity if you ask me.
2) Myoutcall - yes always posted advert and reposted AR
- But they at least had the interest of going to their site and eyeballing the girls and seeing the roster.
- in the past it was not over the top.
- Now - yes girls quality has picked up but joined Yamada san in spam like frequency - Myoutcall - don't ever think that emulating Yamada approach it the way to go - for me - it is Not !
3) 5 Star -Yes always repost AR and advertise - but I accept advertising - yes Yamada even from you.
- The 5 Star frequency I think is acceptable although at times near the top end of my tolerance.
- Photos where possible of the top girls/ PH.
- Keep doing what you have - don't accelerate the postings to follow others and you will have my interest without causing the TMC Glazed Over Eye effect on me.
Just my 5 cents
Yes - Intelligent suggestion.
Both Yamada and now MOC raise posts for girls that are not even rostered on.
And recently with MOC multiple posts for a girl that isn't even starting for a week !!
As you say Brother - On any given day only post a single AR repost and a Single General Section Advert ..... for those girls rostered on that day Only !!
When 2 shops keep re-posting reviews makes it pretty hard to see the new ones.
Get so I don't even look at any posts from those shops anymore,which sort of defeats their purpose...
Yep agree Shaggy
I potentially would miss what little information Yamada provides (and I only use him as the example because he more than most illustrates the growing problem) because when confronted with a mass of red Yamada posts I just scroll immediately through with little engagement !!
That is the problem - the advertiser wants to "engage" his or hers potential clients (and therefore income) but it is a delicate balance of turning people off and it actually being a negative!
In mainstream advertising many have learnt this lesson the hard way.
Sadly - although it may be partly lost in translation - Yamada above responds in either tongue in cheek humour ... Or a rejection of the issue punctuated by hijacking this post thread as well !!!
In advertising as in most aspects - perception is reality - and the perception I gained from Yamada's comments above is to be totally dismissive of what was a useful contribution by Max and basically say - get stuffed I will do what I want !!
He is of course free to do that -
-as we are free to take our business to those who provide services we can find value, attitude & affinity for.
I basically just skip whatever post with shop owner's name on it, and read the punters', it's not hard to click " next page" anyway
Yeah it's a bugbear of mine. Just too much advertising by shops, digging up months old posts/reviews then whacking a "on today" to bump it. There's a roster section, keep it there. Maybe a limit on the 'ads' per day, and maybe keep the review section ad free.
I can accept a little in the general section, but if the admin wants to keep site integrity, there should be a total ban on shops posting in the AR.
Don't get me wrong, I love to frequent Yamada"s business. He has fresh Japanese talent coming all the time.
It's now the norm for the more active agencies/shops to try and get as many threads in the front page as possible.
If they didn't bump the reviews, you would have to search for it once working out which girls were on in the roster section.
I guess there should be a limit of one bump per girl, or a new section for currently available girls' reviews to be bumped too?
Shop Roster - for rosters & advertising only.
General talk - No advertising. Shop owners may only respond on the subject that is being discussed.
After reports - Same as general talk.
Shop owners can put links to other reports on their shop roster. That will make it easy for punters.
Exactly. When I go to the ar section and see mostly shop ads I can't be bothered fishing through looking for actual reviews. Shops can post in ar section answering direct questions or clarifying points in a review, but blatant ads should be banned in that section.
It's all good
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