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Long story short, I met a dealer at Crown casino about a year ago, and I would travel there interstate about every fortnight for work, then play a bit of table games after. I got talking to this dealer and we got along real well, I thought I had a chance. One day I decide to ask her out, and she said no. So I thought, ok, guess I was wrong, she wasn't interested after all.
After that whenever I went, I would avoid her table. After a while, I noticed that she would be looking at me from a distance, and we'd just kinda stare at each other like that from different tables. One day I'm playing at a table, and she comes on as the new dealer. She starts talking to me being real friendly, and since then we have sort of resumed our 'thing' and everything was like before I asked her out.
Call me goddamn stupid, but I just get the vibe now that maybe she is interested. I just can't understand why she would always be looking at me and being so friendly if she wasn't interested, especially after knowing that I am interested?!?! If a guy asked a girl out and the girl didn't want to lead him on, wouldn't she say no and then after that avoid him or want to be avoided?
But on the other hand, I have friends who are married, and they tell me that their wives rejected them at first but they were persistent.
So what should a guy do, should a guy have to ask a girl out twice?!?!
Ask already or go to a brothel
Did you ask her out while she was working? The casino would probably have rules about staff openly fraternising with patrons whilst on duty.
Of course she will say no unless she wants to lose her job.
Do dealers get a commission for how much the table makes, if so that answers your question.
Sure mate ! Ask again and fucking again ! Show her how good you are, how kind you are and how keen you are ! It takes time because she doesn't know you
I asked her while she was working, but what I said was, are you free for a coffee after you finish.Originally Posted by aussiegaigin
Do this instead:
Have your usual chit chat and then just find out when will she finish work. say 10 pm, then just tell her you will be at a well known place in Melbourne but away from Crown say from 11pm . And make sure she knows that venue but Don't ask her if she will be there!
If she is interested, she will go there to check you out, if she doesn't come then you got your answer ?
Ps. Make sure you wait outside the main entrance of that place so you won't miss her!
Good luck
Cheers
Some girls love to play hard to get when guys invite them out first time but persistence does sometimes pay off for some guys. However, she is on the job and therefore, she can't flirt with gamblers and by being friendly, it's in her interest to attract gamblers to her table and spend money. No money no honey!
Not always happen like that. I believe there is an exception
Congratulations, you just learned one of the best ways to manipulate women, give them attection then deny it to them.
The problem in your situation is that it looks like she wants you as an 'orbiter'. Women love getting attention from men and will keep a stable of guys around them who give them male validation. The sucky thing for the guys is that she will never sleep with any of them (unless she intends to use them as a backup if she gets old/ugly etc).
This is textbook female behaviour, they are expert at manipulating men this way. Every guy who reads this has gone through the exact same experience you are right now.
Exactly... and this girl is not acting in this manner, what does that tell you? her only intention 'is' to lead you on. Immature/attention seeking/manipulative women will try to keep you attracted as long as she can without giving anything in return. Above all else, this is validation for her.
In general, the reality is that a guy will persue a girl for ages and she will finally give in once she realises she has no better options. Men say that persistence won her over, but deep down, the woman will always know that she settled. I'm a firm believer that if there is no initial (physical) attraction then there never will be. In terms of growing to love somebody in an emotional sense it's different, I believe that can happen over time.
Definately do not do this. Trust me when I say that is the only thing she wants from this interaction. She wants that sweet sweet validation and if you give it to her she will lose interest immediately.
My advice is to lose this chick, however, you can start pushing her buttons by selectively giving and then taking away attention from her. This and acting assertively gets women going for some reason. I guess they think themselves to be powerful or special if they can tame some unpredictable/wild guy.
I hope I don't sound like a dick I just hate to see guys suffer from female manuipulation.
I ask ask ask her again till she hate me
I really enjoyed reading your post, thanks
If you have any other general advice to offer, I would love to learn some!
I think you've actually done pretty well here. You asked a girl out (alot of guys don't even get this far), she rebuffed you and you moved on. This is basically the perfect way to do it, your just a little confused now because she is trying to manipulate you. In the end it's just a numbers game, if you ask out every girl you're attracted to, one of them will feel the same way. It just sucks getting rejected so many times lol.I really enjoyed reading your post, thanks
If you have any other general advice to offer, I would love to learn some!
If you're more interested about the female nature type stuff there's lots of things you can read. There's a whole field of science called evolutionary biology which talks about sexual preferences and behaviours. An example could be that women have evolved a preference to maintain a group of 'orbiters' because in the ancient past, when their partners died from conflict with other tribes or whatever, they immediately had another guy to latch onto who would protect them and procreate. In the case of the women that didn't maintain these type of relationships they would be more likely to die without male protection so those genes (and behaviours) would not be passed on and over time this behaviour would die out. So now in the modern world we've got women like the girl you were talking about who still behave in this way even though it's not needed, they just wired that way genetically.
There's more practical information you can find written by 'pickup artists' like The Game. You have to sift though a lot of bullshit written by these guys to find the good bits but they are there. Another book I found helpful is called Love Signals by David Givens.
Hope that helps a bit, I'm no expert on picking up women, I just find human behaviour (especially women) really fascinating and have put effort into learning more about it.
Thanks jkb. Evolutionary biology explains many things without needing to ascribe malice or inadequacy to anyone. I certainly wish that E B had been invented when I was in high school. I would have got laid sooner and more often, and perhaps more importantly, felt less bad about what seemed to be deliberately unreasonable female behavior.
Yeah I agree. It's so easy to get angry or feel bad when people act in certain ways, but if you can rationalise why they have acted that way it helps to de-personalise it so you don't end up thinking it's your own fault.
If you are near the casino with bars close by, I would have bought her a more fancy/expensive drink if one can afford it.
Personally, I am very persistent and keep asking the girl. Sometimes multiple times.
With my ex gf who was a WL, at one stage she even moved in with me. We shared the same bed together for a period in time but when things got serious, nothing materialised.
I sensed she was about to break up with me later on so I proposed marriage in a desperate attempt to salvage our relationship.
Soon after, she dumped me for a older Western guy. I sensed this guy was successful career wise and loyal which many of her "courters" wont. She had many sugar daddies but they all cheated on her. This elder western guy was different.
I guess I had too many flaws for a marriage relationship.
But I am still looking to marry a ML/WL.
I know many people do not think marrying a ML/WL is sustainable but I disagree and will keep asking the question "Will you marry me?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNWHbnts45E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQN_aIFz_5Y
Why won't anyone marry me?
lol mate...
Couldn't stop laughing reading this.
I dont feel funny about your comment like the others did. I'm agreed with ya'
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