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Prometheus_haha
04-01-2013, 10:59 PM
I saw the thread why would a man see a WL if he has a wife, and we all know the answer to that.

But what about the opposite? Why would a WL want a boyfriend?

cuimd2
04-01-2013, 11:04 PM
coz they are woman after all and they want someone that cares about them?

maybe also including other reasons like they want them to marry them after a while so they can get citizenship..etc.

km2000
04-01-2013, 11:10 PM
Maybe work is work? And relationship is a different matter?

Sextus
04-01-2013, 11:14 PM
also including other reasons like they want them to marry them after a while so they can get citizenship..etc.

How long do they need to be married to you for to get citizenship? A year or two? I'm happy to be serially married to a line professional sextresses if they want citizenship. Just line them, and the celebrants, up. Happy to help them out.

cuimd2
04-01-2013, 11:17 PM
How long do they need to be married to you for to get citizenship? A year or two? I'm happy to be serially married to a line professional sextresses if they want citizenship. Just line them, and the celebrants, up. Happy to help them out.

if your happy to help out, im sure there are plenty from china that want citizenship here you can get like 100k+ or i think even more, to help them get citizenship, and its 2 years i think.

Sextus
04-01-2013, 11:22 PM
I'll found out more, thanks.

Travelmate
04-01-2013, 11:24 PM
if your happy to help out, im sure there are plenty from china that want citizenship here you can get like 100k+ or i think even more, to help them get citizenship, and its 2 years i think.

This is very true ...
$80k is minimum

cisco
04-01-2013, 11:33 PM
Money money and money

wilisno
04-01-2013, 11:49 PM
How long do they need to be married to you for to get citizenship? A year or two? I'm happy to be serially married to a line professional sextresses if they want citizenship. Just line them, and the celebrants, up. Happy to help them out.

You're only allowed to marry twice in your life to give the girl a citizenship !

wilisno
04-01-2013, 11:50 PM
This is very true ...
$80k is minimum

Depends on which country the girl is from !

Travelmate
04-01-2013, 11:54 PM
Depends on which country the girl is from !

true! but Mainland .. standard is this rate anyway

Sextus
05-01-2013, 12:06 AM
Only twice, eh? Well that is two times more than I've been marrried before.

And it is two times more than I had any intention to previously.

(BTW, did anyone notice one of my contributions yesterday to the Kitty photo thread?)

Licker
05-01-2013, 12:18 AM
Only twice, eh? Well that is two times more than I've been marrried before.

And it is two times more than I had any intention to previously.

(BTW, did anyone notice one of my contributions yesterday to the Kitty photo thread?)

Yes I did. Are you planning on putting a ringer in that finger?

wilisno
05-01-2013, 12:22 AM
Only twice, eh? Well that is two times more than I've been marrried before.

And it is two times more than I had any intention to previously.

(BTW, did anyone notice one of my contributions yesterday to the Kitty photo thread?)

If that's the case, make yourself known to be willing and available, be a hooker for a change ! :miao: Imagine how many more punts you can have with that money !

Sextus
05-01-2013, 12:23 AM
Yes I did. Are you planning on putting a ringer in that finger?

Man, I'd do it just like that. (Snap of fingers.) But I doubt if she has citizenship problems. :cry:

IExperiment
05-01-2013, 12:28 AM
They would do it for love meaning kids the good one that is. They will loose their body once they have a kid or kids no matter how super model they are, they can get it back but never perfect to where they were before. This is the test a family and its real.

Sextus
05-01-2013, 12:52 AM
If that's the case, make yourself known to be willing and available, be a hooker for a change ! :miao: Imagine how many more punts you can have with that money !

Ok, I don't know if this is the right place to announce it, but I am OFFICIALLY available to help out.

Anyone know anything more, pm me.

Good advice Wilisno (below.)

wilisno
05-01-2013, 12:58 AM
Ok, I don't know if this is the right place to announce it, but I am OFFICIALY available to help out.

Anyone know anything more, pm me.

And tell your favourite girls too when you see them next, words will go out quickly !

CommanderM
05-01-2013, 01:10 AM
Sextus - let me get this straight are you willing to be come a manwhore?

seriously?


Ok, I don't know if this is the right place to announce it, but I am OFFICIALLY available to help out.

Anyone know anything more, pm me.

Good advice Wilisno (below.)

IExperiment
05-01-2013, 01:22 AM
Ok, I don't know if this is the right place to announce it, but I am OFFICIALLY available to help out.

Anyone know anything more, pm me.

Good advice Wilisno (below.)

Good luck tell us more info if it happens.

Sextus
05-01-2013, 01:28 AM
Sextus - let me get this straight are you willing to be come a manwhore?

seriously?

Anyone read my AR's? How many times have I called myself a slut in them? All men are sluts anyway. It is our default state of being.

Mind you, the life I've lived is different to that lived by most in standard society, no doubt that puts me in a unique or at least rare position. Combine that with a mind that couldn't be more open, and hey! I have no guilt, sex guilt, or any other kind of guilt for that matter. And I make a living already from selling my indivdual services!

IExperiment
05-01-2013, 01:34 AM
Anyone read my AR's? How many times have I called myself a slut in them? All men are sluts anyway. It is our default state of being.

Some girls call us Horny Wolfes :) devils and so on so I Guess a slut is also appropriate.

wilisno
05-01-2013, 01:39 AM
Some girls call us Horny Wolfes :) devils and so on so I Guess a slut is also appropriate.I'm sure we're more of a slut than a female slut !

Sextus
05-01-2013, 01:40 AM
i'm sure we're more of a slut than a female slut !

agree, agree!

IExperiment
05-01-2013, 01:44 AM
I'm sure we're more of a slut than a female slut !

And it sound worse on a girl than us guys :) I take it as a compliment :) I will make sure all my sons are sluts :) but my daugther no way :) it is the way of the world is :) I mean come on if you have a son and your sons say Dad I fuck 100 girls you will be proud saying your a stud son :) but if your Daugther come to you and say dad I fuck 100 man will you be proud no way :)

huangdee
05-01-2013, 01:47 AM
And it sound worse on a girl than us guys :) I take it as a compliment :) I will make sure all my sons are sluts :) but my daugther no way :) it is the way of the world is :) I mean come on if you have a son and your sons say Dad I fuck 100 girls you will be proud saying your a stud son :) but if your Daugther come to you and say dad I fuck 100 man will you be proud no way :)

not fair but true

CommanderM
05-01-2013, 03:30 AM
Agreed. I dont think your daughter would like to hear that one is a manwhore as well. or man escort


And it sound worse on a girl than us guys :) I take it as a compliment :) I will make sure all my sons are sluts :) but my daugther no way :) it is the way of the world is :) I mean come on if you have a son and your sons say Dad I fuck 100 girls you will be proud saying your a stud son :) but if your Daugther come to you and say dad I fuck 100 man will you be proud no way :)

Sextus
05-01-2013, 10:40 AM
Agreed. I dont think your daughter would like to hear that one is a manwhore as well. or man escort

This is all really contradictory. On the one hand I don't know how many times someone pipes up and lectures everyone about how much we need to respect the girls, about how they are human beings with feelings and hearts. And so I do, and I can add affection to that too.

But suddenly, if one of them happens to be your daughter, then it is ok to treat her with contempt??

Would "hypocrisy" be the right word for that?

When I say I am free of any kind of sex guilt, I might be the only **** on this forum who really is.

Mind you, sex is so very much psychological, and I have always been very attracted to loose women, to girls that are like men in their sexual willingness. That are just like you, in fact. The word slut has always turned me on therefore. I recognise myself there. I like those ladies, for example, in porn who accept hot cock left right and centre, and I could easily marry one of them. I have an open mind, and grateful to have one.

Well, look, we are all long term punters, so that fact alone means all our minds are more open than most, so you are all on the right track anyway, you just need to think things through more to their logical conclusions.

project_manager006
06-01-2013, 06:38 PM
if your happy to help out, im sure there are plenty from china that want citizenship here you can get like 100k+ or i think even more, to help them get citizenship, and its 2 years i think.

Wait bro, you srs?

You tellin' me a girl will pay me $100k to marry me and after 2 years we each go our own ways??

River
06-01-2013, 06:59 PM
I saw the thread why would a man see a WL if he has a wife, and we all know the answer to that.

But what about the opposite? Why would a WL want a boyfriend?

Cos the fairer sex have a pathological need to tell someone to put the toilet seat down.

gimpy
06-01-2013, 11:15 PM
i got offered $10K to marry a girl once for citizenship, and when she said it wouldn't be upfront i told her no way.

i'd do it for $100K for sure! where can i find one that will pay $100K?? maybe i need to put an ad in a chinese newspaper!

rooter
06-01-2013, 11:33 PM
To get back to the original question, I guess the reasons a WL would want a bf are the same reasons any other girl would want a bf - they are just women after all, not some other species.
So the usual things: companionship, security, love, money, family, understanding etc.
At the end of the day many of them want someone to come home to, just like any other woman.

AHLUNGOR
06-01-2013, 11:48 PM
i got offered $10K to marry a girl once for citizenship, and when she said it wouldn't be upfront i told her no way.

i'd do it for $100K for sure! where can i find one that will pay $100K?? maybe i need to put an ad in a chinese newspaper!

If you read Chinese, get the local Chinese Newspaper Sing Tao and look for agencies specialised in immirgration and visa etc. give them a call and offer your service/status, they usually have clients on the book for arranged marriage, I think the going rate is $50K to $60K, you get 50% upon the signing of the marriage certificate and I think the balance is pay by instalment over the next few years.

If you are interested and single, why not??

fetishjav
07-01-2013, 12:31 AM
most WL only hv a temp visa or even no visa.
so they probably after marriage for a visa or citizenship

IExperiment
07-01-2013, 02:21 AM
To get back to the original question, I guess the reasons a WL would want a bf are the same reasons any other girl would want a bf - they are just women after all, not some other species.
So the usual things: companionship, security, love, money, family, understanding etc.
At the end of the day many of them want someone to come home to, just like any other woman.

This is correct some are really true and wanted Love. What better way to find it, fuck first if I like I date :) and she must be willing to do PSE with me only at least :)

Littlewonder
07-01-2013, 08:17 AM
This is correct some are really true and wanted Love. What better way to find it, fuck first if I like I date :) and she must be willing to do PSE with me only at least :)

Agree with you but also I think some of them want someone to do the washing, clean the house cook the meal etc also if they have a boy friend family etc are less likely to get suspisious about them working!

altgourami
07-01-2013, 10:00 AM
Humans need emotional love. We are social animals.

gimpy
07-01-2013, 01:47 PM
ok thanks AHLUNGOR... but you need to have someone sign a stat dec that the marriage is legit, so you'd probably need to pay them a cut too.

back to the question, WLs are still human beings at the end of the day. people tend to overlook that. and people tend to overlook that relationships aren't all about sex, even more so for women. asking why a WL would want a boyfriend is like asking why any woman would want a boyfriend. they're all humans with emotions just like anyone else, not just sex robots.

these are the only WLs who don't want boyfriends - http://www.vice.com/en_uk/the-vice-guide-to-sex/tokyo-lazy-doll

gimpy
07-01-2013, 02:01 PM
http://cltampa.com/dailyloaf/archives/2011/11/30/japan-is-one-step-closer-to-creating-legions-of-sex-robots-video#.UOo9DndOdMk

razelio
07-01-2013, 03:06 PM
I could date a WL, most of my friends would be ok with it to. One of my friends who works in the mines dates a Thai WL when he gets off work every so many months. I have some white girl friends who have/are WLs.

I've never managed to connect with a "normal" Asian girl because I have a lot of tattoos, I like beer (a lot), smoking weed and taking all sorts of party drugs, most Asian girls I meet hate that.

但是我是一个白色人那可以说一点点中文,需要一个中国的女性, 练习汉语。

Marriage for citizenship? I could do that. ML I wouldn't really mind, but WL, it would make you cringe to think about random dicks in their mouth every-time you kiss.

Sextus
07-01-2013, 03:15 PM
"But WL, it would make you cringe to think about random dicks in their mouth every-time you kiss."

And yet you have jacked off to the very same sight of random dicks being put in a girl's mouth lots of times in porn. In other words, you find this to be HOT! So hot in fact, you literally come while looking at it.

So fundamentally, there is no difference. The mind can liberate you or the mind can imprison you - and the choice between the two is entirely voluntary.

bill_100
07-01-2013, 03:38 PM
If you read Chinese, get the local Chinese Newspaper Sing Tao and look for agencies specialised in immirgration and visa etc. give them a call and offer your service/status, they usually have clients on the book for arranged marriage, I think the going rate is $50K to $60K, you get 50% upon the signing of the marriage certificate and I think the balance is pay by instalment over the next few years.

If you are interested and single, why not??

However the girl gets half your assets when they divorce you and maintenance for any children!

splash
07-01-2013, 05:58 PM
Doesn't having a divorce affect your credit rating? You need that if you are needing a loan

razelio
07-01-2013, 07:22 PM
I think the best reason for dating a WL, is normal girls just can't fuck like that.

I haven't had many gf in my life, but the ones I had certainly could not fuck anywhere near as well as a good WL.

splash
07-01-2013, 09:26 PM
I think the best reason for dating a WL, is normal girls just can't fuck like that.

I haven't had many gf in my life, but the ones I had certainly could not fuck anywhere near as well as a good WL.

Everyone starts somewhere... your normal gf can eventually fuck as good if not better than a WL, just all depends on how willing she is to take things to a new level.

project_manager006
07-01-2013, 10:17 PM
Still waiting for my 100k.

rooter
07-01-2013, 10:50 PM
However the girl gets half your assets when they divorce you and maintenance for any children!

Exactly! There is always a catch ! It sounds so easy; marry a WL collect $100k, too easy.
Yeah right, if only life were that simple ;)

cisco
08-01-2013, 12:06 AM
Cause the girl want to change their life to get something more better for their future, everyone will get married one day , have family and kids right?

IExperiment
08-01-2013, 02:20 AM
Everyone starts somewhere... your normal gf can eventually fuck as good if not better than a WL, just all depends on how willing she is to take things to a new level.

This is correct and she can even do BBFS :) unless you meet those conservative one than its going to be a long night :) turn her around get horny and teach her new skill :)

wilisno
08-01-2013, 03:07 AM
This is correct and she can even do BBFS :) unless you meet those conservative one than its going to be a long night :) turn her around get horny and teach her new skill :)

Then she wants more than just sex ! :miao:

project_manager006
08-01-2013, 07:10 AM
However the girl gets half your assets when they divorce you and maintenance for any children!

But wouldn't it be more like a 'business transaction', with obvious conditions being no splitting of the assets on divorce and no children? I would've thought it was just pay me $100k, we go to births deaths and marriages, sign something, then we go our own way.

gimpy
08-01-2013, 10:18 AM
However the girl gets half your assets when they divorce you and maintenance for any children!

sign a pre-nup, and it's pretty clear you won't be having children. you only need to be married a couple of years and then get a divorce.

getbro
08-01-2013, 03:39 PM
i have a WL girlfriend, we have been happy for over a year now. so i am qualified to answer your question. they need companionship, a true friend, a REAL lover. but they dont need the sex obviously. sex work can be a lonely experience for a WL. when we are together she takes time off and the sex is normal. i dont see her when she works. it is her chosen job and she is good at it so who am i to judge her, its not a normal relationship because of the sex work and i still punt when i dont see her.

the wizard
08-01-2013, 04:39 PM
i have a WL girlfriend, we have been happy for over a year now. so i am qualified to answer your question. they need companionship, a true friend, a REAL lover. but they dont need the sex obviously. sex work can be a lonely experience for a WL. when we are together she takes time off and the sex is normal. i dont see her when she works. it is her chosen job and she is good at it so who am i to judge her, its not a normal relationship because of the sex work and i still punt when i dont see her.
They can be quite lonely, apart from their girl friends they might not have any other support system in place
Did you see her for a while before making the first move, and do you think that there might be a future together for both of you?

Sextus
08-01-2013, 09:04 PM
They can be quite lonely, apart from their girl friends they might not have any other support system in place
Did you see her for a while before making the first move, and do you think that there might be a future together for both of you?

Wizard, I know what you are thinking.....

IExperiment
09-01-2013, 02:19 AM
Still waiting for my 100k.

You will be waiting for a long time :) better make your own.

IExperiment
09-01-2013, 02:23 AM
Then she wants more than just sex ! :miao:

The sex is great but she will wanted to go on holiday, dinner, lunch just need time, most woman are all similar most of them just wanted your time which is nice if you have them.

wilisno
09-01-2013, 02:27 AM
The sex is great but she will wanted to go on holiday, dinner, lunch just need time, most woman are all similar most of them just wanted your time which is nice if you have them.

Or get someone to share if you don't have time !

IExperiment
09-01-2013, 02:31 AM
Or get someone to share if you don't have time !

Haha :) I cant share this one maybe the photos ok.

wilisno
09-01-2013, 02:50 AM
Haha :) I cant share this one maybe the photos ok.

Ok, you know how to use picture messaging ?

project_manager006
10-01-2013, 10:32 PM
I'm not sure what the going rate is for the "PR marriage" is at the moment (100K seems a bit steep) but it's more common than you would think....and not just among WLs.

Alright...but how do I get in on this?

venomcn
13-01-2013, 09:53 PM
I don't know about the going probe for all Asian girls, but I have a friend who is an agent for this kinda of stuff and for a Chinese girl the going rate atm range from 40k-60k . The process is actually very complicated it will take a total of 5-7 years for this to be done with out the government flagging you.

Normally the girl will pay a 20% deposite fee and this start the application process for the visa. You will need to forge all sort of documents and show evidence that both of you are in love for at least 1 year. Things such as photos, record of conversation and etc etc.

The remaining 80% is then split into 5 payments each year, this is because there is mandentory paperwork that needs to be signed by the guy each year for a period of 5 years.

You can do it in 2 years as well but I know personally my friend as a agent recommend 5 years period to be safe, he hasn't had a failed application yet.

Once the girl gets to Australia you would also then require to stay and live under the same roof. There are times which immigration officers will attend to your premise and check that you guys are legit.

The going price is normally 40k for girls application and are normally -80k for guys. The reason why girls are willing to pay is because they can do the exact thing later on when they split up and the going rate for guys are normally double

I'm off work now tell you guys more about it next time

project_manager006
13-01-2013, 09:56 PM
I don't know about the going probe for all Asian girls, but I have a friend who is an agent for this kinda of stuff and for a Chinese girl the going rate atm range from 40k-60k . The process is actually very complicated it will take a total of 5-7 years for this to be done with out the government flagging you.

Normally the girl will pay a 20% deposite fee and this start the application process for the visa. You will need to forge all sort of documents and show evidence that both of you are in love for at least 1 year. Things such as photos, record of conversation and etc etc.

The remaining 80% is then split into 5 payments each year, this is because there is mandentory paperwork that needs to be signed by the guy each year for a period of 5 years.

You can do it in 2 years as well but I know personally my friend as a agent recommend 5 years period to be safe, he hasn't had a failed application yet.

Once the girl gets to Australia you would also then require to stay and live under the same roof. There are times which immigration officers will attend to your premise and check that you guys are legit.

The going price is normally 40k for girls application and are normally -80k for guys. The reason why girls are willing to pay is because they can do the exact thing later on when they split up and the going rate for guys are normally double

I'm off work now tell you guys more about it next time

Please do :)

Max Impact
13-01-2013, 10:41 PM
I see a Thai ML and have done so for seven months. She wants to feel like a normal girl and I make her feel more like a regular person. She really likes that I buy her things and spoil her. But I am bored and on to the next thing. So I am the arsehole, she is the beautiful little girl.

Sammi
14-01-2013, 12:11 AM
I was lonely when i was a WL.
This is true~!no friend no family and homesick illness~!
Stay in sydney for a monlth like an outsider
Even I met more than 6punters for everyday ,guys cum to me and say bye,
It was too hard to make a real friendship and love with them
If i meet a bf when i am a WL, I cannot lie to him...
I may tell him everythings about my job
If he understand what i do is work for money,and he still love me and never think that i am dirty,i may retired and marry him straightaway.

Mi Goreng
14-01-2013, 12:16 AM
Hey young girl Sammi above me , never and ever use the word " dirty " to describe yourself . It is not applicable to your situation. Thank you !

Sextus
14-01-2013, 12:36 AM
I was lonely when i was a WL.
This is true~!no friend no family and homesick illness~!
Stay in sydney for a monlth like an outsider
Even I met more than 6punters for everyday ,guys cum to me and say bye,
It was too hard to make a real friendship and love with them
If i meet a bf when i am a WL, I cannot lie to him...
I may tell him everythings about my job
If he understand what i do is work for money,and he still love me and never think that i am dirty,i may retired and marry him straightaway.

Sammi, if you had said this while you were in Sydney, if you had taken a day or two off, do you know how many of us would have put our hands up to take you to the wildlife park in Darling Harbour to hug a Koala, or go to Luna Park on the ferry or anything else you wanted to do? You did hint that you were lonely in Sydney, but most of us thought that was just marketing on your part. But it turns out to be true!

It would have been just laughs and fun to show you around and we would have been perfect gentlemen to you, happy to show off our Sydney to a lovely young lady visiting our fair city. At the end of the day we would have kissed you on the cheek at your doorstep and wished you all the best. If you come out of retirement and come back to Sydney don't be so shy!

AHLUNGOR
14-01-2013, 12:53 AM
Didn't some brother take Sammi out for a nice lunch at The Quay ??

wilisno
14-01-2013, 01:00 AM
I was lonely when i was a WL.
This is true~!no friend no family and homesick illness~!
Stay in sydney for a monlth like an outsider
Even I met more than 6punters for everyday ,guys cum to me and say bye,
It was too hard to make a real friendship and love with them
If i meet a bf when i am a WL, I cannot lie to him...
I may tell him everythings about my job
If he understand what i do is work for money,and he still love me and never think that i am dirty,i may retired and marry him straightaway.

Sammi ! I sincerely wish you all the best Sweetie, hope you'll find a real life Leon in the future and live your life happily ever after ! 么么

IExperiment
14-01-2013, 01:46 AM
I see a Thai ML and have done so for seven months. She wants to feel like a normal girl and I make her feel more like a regular person. She really likes that I buy her things and spoil her. But I am bored and on to the next thing. So I am the arsehole, she is the beautiful little girl.

Yes you have a disease its call man whore :) you need something different now and again.

IExperiment
14-01-2013, 01:51 AM
I was lonely when i was a WL.
This is true~!no friend no family and homesick illness~!
Stay in sydney for a monlth like an outsider
Even I met more than 6punters for everyday ,guys cum to me and say bye,
It was too hard to make a real friendship and love with them
If i meet a bf when i am a WL, I cannot lie to him...
I may tell him everythings about my job
If he understand what i do is work for money,and he still love me and never think that i am dirty,i may retired and marry him straightaway.

Good luck Sammi from my experience it is better to retired and find someone who does not know that you have work as a WL. To find the right person that already know what you do is harder as there is so many obsticle.

Sextus
16-01-2013, 03:28 PM
Once the girl gets to Australia you would also then require to stay and live under the same roof. There are times which immigration officers will attend to your premise and check that you guys are legit.

Well, guys, this has just killed the idea off for me. There is no way that I will change my whole enjoyable lifestyle by having someone else move in. It is THE ULTIMATE LOSS OF PRIVACY. Since when does the marriage act say that you have to live together anyway? You are either married or you are not. Isn't it possible to have a marriage where you remain lovers instead of being domestic drudges watching each other clean the fucking toilet?

AHLUNGOR
16-01-2013, 03:38 PM
Well, guys, this has just killed the idea off for me. There is no way that I will change my whole enjoyable lifestlye by having someone else move in. It is THE ULTIMATE LOSS OF PRIVACY. Since when does the marriage act say that you have to live together anyway? You are either married or you are not. Isn't it possible to have a marriage where you remain lovers instead of being domestic drudges whatching each other clean the fucking toilet?

I don't think the girl and her aussie "husband" have to live under the same roof. But decent evidence must be planted in the common residential address either his or her. such as wedding photos, usual living/holiday/family photos with both parties in them. clothings, personal items, shoes, books, CD's DVDs etc. and most importantly, physical address evidents such as Driver license, mobile phone/bank account statements from him and her both showing the same address !!

Because the department will do spot checks and home visits during the waiting periods and it will be very difficult to arrange everything if they are not already well planned.

Just my two cents (as told to me by a few experienced MLs who are in this sort of arrangements)

Cheers

:smile:

Sextus
16-01-2013, 09:44 PM
No that isn't true Spartan. This thread started off about the psychological reason why a wl would want a boyfirend. But it quicky got to the really interesting part (despite Rooter thinking it was getting off track) which is about SEX and MONEY.

What the fuck force in the world can beat those too juggernauts? Love? Even if it tried it would still be two against one!

I am talking about a legit marriage, but one were you don't live together. A sophisticated one, like the stars in Hollywood often have. Who dares to judge that two free people, married, can't choose themselves exactly how they want to practice their domestic arrangements? The goverment cannot dictate our legitimate legal private choices to us.

Don't worry, I'd still be very regularly consumating the marriage, I'll give you the drum. :shout:

Sextus
16-01-2013, 10:07 PM
I realised some time ago that I would never get married for my own reasons, but that doesn't mean I'm not a romantic. :red_heart: All marriage, and no responsibilty? That is an idea! Who is to judge who is unworthy?

Sextus
16-01-2013, 10:23 PM
Good point! Not very sympathetic types there I'll bet.

This is just one of those theoretical things that intrigue. Too many obstacles to it, no doubt. My ideal scenario above wouldn't pass their muster under some sub rule for sure.

But I like Chinese ladies, goddamit, even if the Imm. Dept. doesn't!

Ps. How did you have that specific title to hand so readily?

IExperiment
17-01-2013, 01:37 AM
A $60,000 payment for collaborating in a scam over a 5 or 6 year period - participating in a lie, living in a pretend world, selling your surname - all for the sake of perpetuating a fraud against the department of immigration and helping an unworthy foreignor enter out nation under false pretences.

That shit just doesn't sit right with me.

I dont agree too but there is nothing the government can do as there is always a loop hole even the Government making new rules, the annoying part are the police they have to much power. I dont have a problem just having a toy and there is nothing I can do they always wanted to pull me over even if someone is speeding next to me but they always pull me over :) what did the police say to me when another car is geeeing me up and the police pull me over I say why not talk to the other guy :) the police reply is but you have the faster car ??? I say it does not make sence cause I was not speeding :) while the other guy was ??? the funny part is if I am in the mood and talk nice to them by answering yes and no everything is fast they just said your over the speed by a few km, but if I answer to them like why not talk to the other guy they started putting gloves on saying is there anything in the car ....lol... I am annoy so I said you got your gloves on why ask just check the car...lol... stupid....lol... I cant believe how much breath test I get :)

MyOutCall Australia
17-01-2013, 03:12 AM
Because she is a working girl !

A woman's emotion focuses on getting a good care of by a man with true LOVE. As they are working job by job day by day, they gradually feeling to get lost amongst this human world! What they could see is always mostly many man without love & care but fuck ONLY which gradually get woman lost original good imagines of LOVE even though they feeling good at the end fully loaded with cash!

They got a lot & lost a lot! So they're waiting to see a different thing happened. It is a man too. A man could take care of her with true love a lifetime. They are eager for this coming out one day.


Once a working woman finally loves a man and want to stay with him, She will contribute much more than normal woman to both herself & him for big RETURE! However this behaviour is sadly hided only inside her own world & easily got ignored by others!

This is what i said at other thread " Please give WLS a more understanding & don't ask too much". They are not machine. We never know the other side of story.

Sextus
17-01-2013, 03:39 AM
A sensitive and true insight by a man with heart.

wilisno
17-01-2013, 10:43 AM
Excellent comments Duncan !

guailo
17-01-2013, 04:24 PM
Because she is a working girl !

A woman's emotion focuses on getting a good care of by a man with true LOVE. As they are working job by job day by day, they gradually feeling to get lost amongst this human world! What they could see is always mostly many man without love & care but fuck ONLY which gradually get woman lost previous good imagines of LOVE even though they feeling good at the end fully loaded with cash!

They got a lot & lost a lot! So they're waiting to see a different thing happened. It is a man too. A man could take care of her with true love a lifetime. They are eager for this coming out one day.


Once a working woman finally loves a man and want to stay with him, She will contribute much more than normal woman to both herself & him for big RETURE! However this behaviour is sadly hided only inside her own world & easily got ignored by others!

This is what i said at other thread " Please give WLS a more understanding & don't ask too much". They are not machine. We never know the other side of story.

Well said!

chandra_man1
17-01-2013, 06:24 PM
They got a lot & lost a lot! So they're waiting to see a different thing happened. It is a man too. A man could take care of her with true love a lifetime. They are eager for this coming out one day.


Once a working woman finally loves a man and want to stay with him, She will contribute much more than normal woman to both herself & him for big RETURE! However this behaviour is sadly hided only inside her own world & easily got ignored by others!
y.

so everyone here seems to have a favourite or regular that they would give their left arm for.
what would you do if your favorite tells u she loves u and will give up her job to be your partner ? assuming u are single would u give up your punting life to be faithful to her ?? also assume sheis not after your visa or money.

splash
17-01-2013, 06:31 PM
so everyone here seems to have a favourite or regular that they would give their left arm for.
what would you do if your favorite tells u she loves u and will give up her job to be your partner ? assuming u are single would u give up your punting life to be faithful to her ?? also assume sheis not after your visa or money.

In this case Obvious answer for me would be I'd give her a chance, everyone deserves a chance. It's better experiencing than never to have experience it at all and sitting in front of your computer wondering what it would have been like.

Max Impact
17-01-2013, 07:54 PM
Why would a WL want a BF? She wants to feel normal. She definitely wants him to be loyal to her and see no other girl.

Sextus
17-01-2013, 11:24 PM
You are preaching to the choir Sextus ;-)...the problem I've had though is not so much with the government but with finding the "sophisticated" lady who would like the kind of marriage you describe....how about you? any luck outside of Hollywood? ;-)

Yeah, the WL or the ML. They are up for it. How can the govt dictate what roof a free citizen has to sleep under? :grimace: Answer: They can't.

Licker
17-01-2013, 11:41 PM
Yeah, the WL or the ML. They are up for it. How can the govt dictate what roof a free citizen has to sleep under? :grimace: Answer: They can't.

Sextus: Mate, no offence, but get your facts straight.

The government is not dictating under what roof a free citizen sleeps.

They are however dictating who can become a citizen.
And I am all for it.

wilisno
17-01-2013, 11:50 PM
Sextus: Mate, no offence, but get your facts straight.

The government is not dictating under what roof a free citizen sleeps.

They are however dictating who can become a citizen.
And I am all for it.
I have to agree with this. If the government openly allows this sort of marriage, Australia might just export citizenships as another national resource !

Sextus
18-01-2013, 12:08 AM
Licker mate, I never take offence at different ideas. I find debating them to be a lot of fun! Though I appreciate your consderation of me.

It seems to me, following logic, that to dictate citizenship they have to dictate which roof you sleep under. If they can't do the one, they can't do the other - as far as I can see? :D

AHLUNGOR
18-01-2013, 12:38 AM
I have to agree with this. If the government openly allows this sort of marriage, Australia might just export citizenships as another national resource !

Haha, may be let me throw a question or two in the open:

Between a WL/ML who works hard to earn a living and hook up with an Aussie bloke for a real marriage or fake in order to settle down and stay in this country

Vs.

The 10,000 illegal boat people who eventually are gonna to cost you and I at least $250,000 per person to either settle them into the community or send them back to the country of origin in a special chartered Qantas flight

Who would you rather have or who would you welcome into our country???

Just my two cents

Cheers

Ps. Just to clarify , I am not asking for 1 WL/ML vs 10,000 illegal boat people, lets just say 1,000 vs 1,000

And one more government statistics: 90% of the illegal BP after receiving their refugee status and allowed to stay in Oz, are still unemployed and living on Centerlink payment after 5 years!!

Licker
18-01-2013, 12:39 AM
Licker mate, I never take offence at different ideas. I find debating them to be a lot of fun! Though I appreciate your consderation of me.

It seems to me, following logic, that to dictate citizenship they have to dictate which roof you sleep under. If they can't do the one, they can't do the other - as far as I can see? :D

Sextus, a healthy debate is always commendable. It's the best way to prevent anarchy.

For the sake of debate:
I think your logic is flawed. You were talking about government controlling were citizens sleep, but on the other hand in the context of this thread the person applying for a visa is not a citizen.

Anyway, there is nothing in the immigration law the dictates that the person applying for a spouse visa (different from a fiancee visa) has to live under the same roof, nor that the people in question even have to be married (de facto relationship is as valid).
Living under the same roof (in addition to other proof) however is one of the simplest ways to demonstrate to immigration that such a relationship exists.

Licker
18-01-2013, 12:54 AM
Haha, may be let me throw a question or two in the open:

Between a WL/ML who works hard to earn a living and hook up with an Aussie bloke for a real marriage or fake in order to settle down and stay in this country

Vs.

The 10,000 illegal boat people who eventually are gonna to cost you and I at least $250,000 per person to either settle them into the community or send them back to the country of origin in a special chartered Qantas flight

Who would you rather have or who would you welcome into our country???

Just my two cents

Cheers

Bro Ahlungor, I think you know my answer to your question. ("wink, wink, notch, notch, know what I mean?")
My opinion (sadly) weighs oh so little in the decisions of government spending.

The question of the illegal boat people and costs of trying to protect the Australian borders while maintaining an image of a free and humanitarian western democracy in the eyes of the international community, is however a fact of life and a cost we have to pay.
Or would you rather have a fleet of Australian missile boats patrolling the south sea?

wilisno
18-01-2013, 01:07 AM
It's not a question that you can answer yes or no, or which way you prefer !

It's not that the government is doing nothing to address the boat people problem, although it's a losing battle at the moment, but comparing the same problem with USA and England, Australia's problem is still relatively small. On the other hand, although the government has measures to deal with fake marriages, that doesn't mean no one can get through !

Sextus
18-01-2013, 01:12 AM
Well, ok then, if the living arrangements aren't that strict. A quick marriage in a registry with (an) Elvis as best man / witness, separate addresses, and I promise the government in writing that I'll knock her off a couple of times a week.

Everyone wins!

wilisno
18-01-2013, 01:15 AM
Well, ok then, if the living arrangements aren't that strict. A quick marriage in a registry with (an) Elvis as best man / witness, separate addresses, and I promise the government in writing that I'll knock her off a couple of times a week.

Everyone wins!

Have you seen the movie Green Card ? In real life, it could be tougher here !

wilisno
18-01-2013, 12:26 PM
Asylum seekers (assessed as refugees in accordance with australias international law obligations) are allowed into australia for humanitarian reasons
Other people are allowed into australia on the basis of their wealth, skills or existing ties to this country.

These are the criteria that are used to determine eligibility for citizenship. To say, 'oh, MLs are nice people so they should be allowed in', or comparing their status to legitimate refugees who are fleeing political persecution is unfair and misses the point completely
Agree, as I said, the government might as well export citizenship as one of the national resources if that's the case !

IExperiment
18-01-2013, 05:19 PM
Asylum seekers (assessed as refugees in accordance with australias international law obligations) are allowed into australia for humanitarian reasons
Other people are allowed into australia on the basis of their wealth, skills or existing ties to this country.

These are the criteria that are used to determine eligibility for citizenship. To say, 'oh, MLs are nice people so they should be allowed in', or comparing their status to legitimate refugees who are fleeing political persecution is unfair and misses the point completely

Yes but please make sure more woman and children not mainly man and the trouble maker one as we already have to many trouble maker here.

Cracker38
05-02-2013, 09:42 PM
They just want someone to lookafter them, or sponge off, place to live etc etc

PunterBoy
05-02-2013, 09:49 PM
I saw the thread why would a man see a WL if he has a wife, and we all know the answer to that.

But what about the opposite? Why would a WL want a boyfriend?

Everybody needs a special one. Someone you can trust and won't abuse you. WL / ML are no different.

icecream
05-02-2013, 09:54 PM
To be normal.. Human nature perhaps.. Someone who is by there side to lean on for emotional support..