[Ginza] The Amazing Ginza, Fantastic Shop

[woodduck]

:burn:I have been enjoying Ginza's services for a couple of years now, Kent St, 2 different 'Suites' when you used to have to ring on arrival before being told what numbers to press before entering. Going upstairs, asked to sit on a lone chair behind a curtin before using a shared shower and being led to a room. Then their flash new location in Surry Hills.

Just over a month ago I posted a thread in regards to a simple blunder made by Yuki and the final response on the thread from Wilson said
'I sincerely apologize to you again! I'm sorry again!

Woodduck bro
Hope you will have good times in other shops!
Lets all move on!

This actually means I'm banned. I called today to ask if a particular girl was available. First time I rang Wilson blagged the call, did not answer. I rang the land line and the greeting I received was 'We said you could not come back, that why we posted Hope you have good times in other shops'.

So the story goes like this
1. You book a girl
2. You turn up to find they had mistakenly given your girl to someone else
3. You ask for an apology
4. They apologise and ban you as well

WTF???

[AHLUNGOR]

You started two threads with the same post about getting banned from Ginza, so you are feeling bittered and insulted so you want to share your anger here! What do you expect to gain from this ?

1. Ginza openly apologise to you again and welcome you back? Don't think so.

2. Lots of people will support you and boycott Ginza so their business will suffer? Unlikely !

So what's the point ??

[Rpd]

Judging by the time stamps, the double post were an accident.

And as for the posts, some people just need to vent. I'm sure you've done it from time to time as well...

[AHLUNGOR]

Judging by the time stamps, the double post were an accident.

And as for the posts, some people just need to vent. I'm sure you've done it from time to time as well...

Don't think so mate,

The two threads has clearly different titles, it's not a mistaken double posts, he is trying to make two separate points as per title !

But then again, people are entitled to air his opinions, at least he has remained respectful and kept the door opened.

Cheers

[Kromm]

Strange, a shop admits a mistake but punishes the person who pointed it out?

Maybe you embarrassed them and they value their pride more than your business?

Either way, that says something about Ginza to everyone on the forum, i guess.

[black knight]

Strange, a shop admits a mistake but punishes the person who pointed it out?

Maybe you embarrassed them and they value their pride more than your business?

Either way, that says something about Ginza to everyone on the forum, i guess.

This matter was a private matter between Ginza and the op... no need for it to be on the forum.
The establishment takes pride in it's operations and values it's customers and girls.
They did the honourable thing and apologised and they didn't need to do this openly

The original post was somewhat hostile to them, the Op is not their only customer and they can't
be chasing someone constantly if they're running late.
Ginza is running a very tight and efficient operation, so quite frankly I don't blame them for their recent decision.

I agree with Ahlungor stirring the pot now benefits no one but just gives a false satisfaction for the Op...

At the end one needs to accept the fact that they may need to look elsewhere, because Ginza especially after these
recent posts reserves the right to accept any ones custom.

[AHLUNGOR]

From the OP, he is bittered about the banning thing because he can't go back to Ginza any more !!

I can understand his frustrations, he must have a few regular WLs there, now he had none - a lesson for us all to learn, don't put all your eggs in one basket !!

For example, if I only ever go to just the one massage shop exclusively, and know most of the MLs there, very comfortable, very happy and the mamasan is treating me like a big brother and a very good friend - then all of a sudden, something went wrong and we have an argument or disagreement, then I decided not to go back to the shop anymore, or I was told not to come back or I am no longer welcome or something like that, I will be desvastated !! My pride would be hurted.

Luckily, in real life, I have plenty of favourite shops and lots of mamasan sisters are very kind to me - so hopefully I don't ever have a problem where I have no where to go !!

So I suppose, you need to move on and make more friends somewhere with other shops, and post lots of great reviews for those shops and WLs. But no need to put Ginza down of course ...............haha

That's how you can stand up like a man - or fuck like a man at least!!

Just my two cents mate

Cheers

:shout:

[astro boy]

I take Ahlungors's advice... punt everywhere and don't get attached to one place.
I have favorites all over the place in diff shops..

Don't get attached to a shop
Don't get a attached to a girl...that's my motto

[Gucci2012]

:burn:I have been enjoying Ginza's services for a couple of years now, Kent St, 2 different 'Suites' when you used to have to ring on arrival before being told what numBer to press before entering. Going upstairs, asked to sit on a lone chair behind a curtin before using a shared shower and being led to a room. Then their flash new location in Surry Hills.

Just over a month ago I posted a thread in regards to a simple blunder made by Yuki and the final response on the thread from Wilson said
'I sincerely apologize to you again! I'm sorry again!

Woodduck bro
Hope you will have good times in other shops!
Lets all move on!

This actually means I'm banned. I called today to ask if a particular girl was available. First time I rang Wilson blagged the call, did not answer. I rang the land line and the greeting I received was 'We said you could not come back, that why we posted Hope you have good times in other shops'.

So the story goes like this
1. You book a girl
2. You turn up to find they had mistakenly given your girl to someone else
3. You ask for an apology
4. They apologise and ban you as well

WTF???

Lol you've enjoyed Ginza for a couple of years??? Reading this makes it sound as if you were a regular customer. But then if you were a regular they would know who bro wooduck is and not have made the mistake of giving your booking to some random. Which means you have enjoyed them for a couple of years but your visits were more like once a year.

So stop pretending like you spilled millions of dollars into the place, and even if you did it wouldn't matter. They treat all customers =equal=

I would consider myself a long time customer but I wouldn't even think about asking for special treatment because their standard customer service is miles better than any other operators.

"Have good times in other shops" was a nice way of saying punt elsewhere.

[Mr. Who]

Lol you've enjoyed Ginza for a couple of years??? Reading this makes it sound as if you were a regular customer. But then if you were a regular they would know who bro wooduck is and not have made the mistake of giving your booking to some random. Which means you have enjoyed them for a couple of years but your visits were more like once a year.

Good point.

[Kromm]

Lol you've enjoyed Ginza for a couple of years??? Reading this makes it sound as if you were a regular customer. But then if you were a regular they would know who bro wooduck is and not have made the mistake of giving your booking to some random. Which means you have enjoyed them for a couple of years but your visits were more like once a year.

So stop pretending like you spilled millions of dollars into the place, and even if you did it wouldn't matter. They treat all customers =equal=



You've just contradicted yourself there, bud.

[Gucci2012]

You've just contradicted yourself there, bud.

How exactly? My statement was about identity. If he was as regular as he says he was they would know who he was. If the random guy who walked said he had a booking with Elsa they would say no, because he's not wooduck who they would know assuming he has supposedly been a customer for "a couple of years" that's not special treatment that's them knowing a wooduck from a woodchuck.

[Rpd]

Well, they knew him well enough to recognise his voice and name in order to decline his service, so I wouldn't exactly say he was just some random off the street. But yeah, I don't know enough about the situation to comment further.

[Gucci2012]

Well, they knew him well enough to recognise his voice and name in order to decline his service, so I wouldn't exactly say he was just some random off the street. But yeah, I don't know enough about the situation to comment further.

That was after the mix up. Not before. They know who he is now.

[Rpd]

That was after the mix up. Not before. They know who he is now.

Possibly, but only Ginza can attest to that. :)

[Filodude]

Well, they knew him well enough to recognise his voice and name in order to decline his service, so I wouldn't exactly say he was just some random off the street. But yeah, I don't know enough about the situation to comment further.
They could have recognized his mobile no. From when he made the booking

[AHLUNGOR]

They could have recognized his mobile no. From when he made the booking

I think you are spot on there brother .

It's the mobile no that got banned !

Chances are, if Wilson is not there. The OP may squeeze in for a quickie without being kicked out !

[Rpd]

It is very plausible that they save the telephone numbers of banned punters into the address book of mobiles and landline phones.

Simple options: Move on or grow a beard, change your number, and enjoy the services of your favorite ladies. :miao:

[the doctor.]

I think you are spot on there brother .

It's the mobile no that got banned !

Chances are, if Wilson is not there. The OP may squeeze in for a quickie without being kicked out !
No chance matey
Wilson is there virtually 24/7 and Yuki would be appraised of the situation.
He will need a disguise like in Mission Impossible.
It will b a Mission Impossible for him to frequent Ginza again.

[Oneonone]

Why did he get banned? just for being honest and stating it how it was or is? if this is the case then that is very bad.

There are too many posts on this thread I am not going back through them all, I have already spent enough time reading the posts without finding the answer.

Suggest if the shop is at fault or didn't measure up then the customer is always right and so the customer should be offered some compensation or at least not be banned.

if he has done the wrong thing then OK what did he do wrong?

[Kromm]

How exactly? My statement was about identity. If he was as regular as he says he was they would know who he was. If the random guy who walked said he had a booking with Elsa they would say no, because he's not wooduck who they would know assuming he has supposedly been a customer for "a couple of years" that's not special treatment that's them knowing a wooduck from a woodchuck.

Well, with that logic you pretty much disqualified 90% of Ginza's customers from your definition of a regular, because unless you go there every other day like rooter, then how can you recognise the person booking a girl?

I am Ginza customer over the years but I book via text most of the time. I go there maybe once every 2-3 weeks, at different times, and so I doubt they can recognise me or my number when i make a booking. But still, in theory they can check my # or ask my name and then check it when I arrive, right?

If you want to blame Woodduck, blame him for being late, not because Ginza didn t recognise him and mistakenly given his booking to another person.

[Kromm]

Why did he get banned? just for being honest and stating it how it was or is? if this is the case then that is very bad.

There are too many posts on this thread I am not going back through them all, I have already spent enough time reading the posts without finding the answer.

Suggest if the shop is at fault or didn't measure up then the customer is always right and so the customer should be offered some compensation or at least not be banned.

if he has done the wrong thing then OK what did he do wrong?
If I remembered correctly, he was late and Ginza had to check with him twice to see if he's coming instead of the other way around.

My opinion is that Ginza should ve canceled the booking or at least warn him that they re not keeping her if another punter walks in and chooses her. But in all honesty, I am glad they didn t. The OP got what he deserves for not honoring the booking time and waste everyone s time.

[Gucci2012]

Well, with that logic you pretty much disqualified 90% of Ginza's customers from your definition of a regular, because unless you go there every other day like rooter, then how can you recognise the person booking a girl?

I am Ginza customer over the years but I book via text most of the time. I go there maybe once every 2-3 weeks, at different times, and so I doubt they can recognise me or my number when i make a booking. But still, in theory they can check my # or ask my name and then check it when I arrive, right?

If you want to blame Woodduck, blame him for being late, not because Ginza didn t recognise him and mistakenly given his booking to another person.

You obviously have no clue on how sharply meticulous Yuki and Wilson are when it comes to keeping track of their clients. You don't need to go everyday for them to know who you are. And if you have supposedly been a customer for "a couple of years" they know who you are.

[waynekerr]

You obviously have no clue on how sharply meticulous Yuki and Wilson are when it comes to keeping track of their clients. You don't need to go everyday for them to know who you are. And if you have supposedly been a customer for "a couple of years" they know who you are.

I've only been to Ginza a few times but I am known. Just sayin'.

WayneK.

[numberonebigsize]

Why did he get banned? just for being honest and stating it how it was or is? if this is the case then that is very bad.

There are too many posts on this thread I am not going back through them all, I have already spent enough time reading the posts without finding the answer.

Suggest if the shop is at fault or didn't measure up then the customer is always right and so the customer should be offered some compensation or at least not be banned.

if he has done the wrong thing then OK what did he do wrong?
What is it about fucking Ginza!!!! Any honest punter can have a bad experience anywhere and details of his experiences and outcomes,good or bad,should be welcomed here. This is a forum for all punters,not the domain of $200/half hour boys. Hey fellas,next time you sneak out through the back gate to drive away in your environment killing grey import have a good look at Wilsons $100,000.00 Beema.Puts it all in perspective. Give me the cardboard boxes,dingy waiting rooms and SUKI any day.

[paulgallen]

Time to up the price at ginza. Its long due

[waynekerr]

Time to up the price at ginza. Its long due

I am fortunate that if the prices at Ginza were increased it would not affect my ability to punt there.
However, I didn't get myself into that position by suggesting my suppliers increase theirs.

WayneK.