KYOTO - not good punting news here....

[parkerfun]

hello fellow punters,
this is my first AR and i was hoping it was going to be a good one,
but sorry to say, it's not gonna be pretty.....lol....but you deserve to know!

i've been a fan of Sakura for a while now....some hot girls there this year!
having read that the Sakura team was headed over to 206, and that asian heaven
from the past, Kyoto, was back in town, how could i resist?

around 10.30pm last night i headed in the door, with a $20 discount voucher in hand...
nice atmosphere, you could hear girls laughing out back, music playing, friendly gentleman
greeted me and led me to a waiting cubicle, clean, nice lounge.....all seemed well so far..

around 6 girls came thru and introduced themselves...Yolanda first, she offered BBJ in intro? (she got a bad AR yesterday)
then an array of sexy asian girls, one african, then an out of it or drunk short girl, then...WOW....Holly, sexy aussie, tall, blonde
hot lingerie, and a body you could fuck'n die for!...thought yeah...i'm happy as a pig in shit if i can can fuck this chick!

I picked her, and went for the half hour...$100 + $20 voucher....the gentleman took the $, and called out to her to come get me..
well, that was a while ago now, yep, I waited about 10-15 minutes before Holly collected me and up the cold flight of stairs we went,
into the room and she asked to do an inspection/health check, no problem there, she says have a shower and I'll be back...then whispers
"the cleaner you get the better the service i give"...i responded with "that I can do"...she left, i showered.....
the waiting continue guys...another 10 mins goes by and she returns, i'm lying on the bed, she goes to the beside table ,and starts getting things prepared, almost looked like a nurse setting up a medical procedure kit, she finally lies down next to me, applies KY to my cock, and starts yanking, i go for the grope and it's " you cant touch anywhere around or in my pussy, i dont kiss, and would you like some french?" by this time i'm getting impatient and after she cleaned the gel off my cock with rough paper towels, she put the dom on me and she started to suck my cock, got bored with that and said "get on", she got on and without any facial expression she pumped me for a bit, i got bored again, so i flipped her over and doggie pumped her till I blew... after i pulled out she then handed me a tissue to remove the dom & clean up, stood there like a nurse again, collecting tissues and handing me more till I finished, all the time with her hand wrapped in a tissue so she didn't touch the one i was handing her...

i have been punting in Sydney for a long time, and this has to be the worst punt i've ever had.
this girl is pretty to look at....but thats it unfortunately
how i even got hard and blew is still beyond me.
Kyoto, you need to lift your game if you gonna survive in a market that has Ginza & 359 Riley offering
impeccable service for around the same value..

[Sextus]

An Australian born caucasian in a budget brothel? Your fate was already written down mate.

[CunningLinguist]

hello fellow punters,
this is my first AR and i was hoping it was going to be a good one,
but sorry to say, it's not gonna be pretty.....lol....but you deserve to know!

i've been a fan of Sakura for a while now....some hot girls there this year!
having read that the Sakura team was headed over to 206, and that asian heaven
from the past, Kyoto, was back in town, how could i resist?

around 10.30pm last night i headed in the door, with a $20 discount voucher in hand...
nice atmosphere, you could hear girls laughing out back, music playing, friendly gentleman
greeted me and led me to a waiting cubicle, clean, nice lounge.....all seemed well so far..

around 6 girls came thru and introduced themselves...Yolanda first, she offered BBJ in intro? (she got a bad AR yesterday)
then an array of sexy asian girls, one african, then an out of it or drunk short girl, then...WOW....Holly, sexy aussie, tall, blonde
hot lingerie, and a body you could fuck'n die for!...thought yeah...i'm happy as a pig in shit if i can can fuck this chick!

I picked her, and went for the half hour...$100 + $20 voucher....the gentleman took the $, and called out to her to come get me..
well, that was a while ago now, yep, I waited about 10-15 minutes before Holly collected me and up the cold flight of stairs we went,
into the room and she asked to do an inspection/health check, no problem there, she says have a shower and I'll be back...then whispers
"the cleaner you get the better the service i give"...i responded with "that I can do"...she left, i showered.....
the waiting continue guys...another 10 mins goes by and she returns, i'm lying on the bed, she goes to the beside table ,and starts getting things prepared, almost looked like a nurse setting up a medical procedure kit, she finally lies down next to me, applies KY to my cock, and starts yanking, i go for the grope and it's " you cant touch anywhere around or in my pussy, i dont kiss, and would you like some french?" by this time i'm getting impatient and after she cleaned the gel off my cock with rough paper towels, she put the dom on me and she started to suck my cock, got bored with that and said "get on", she got on and without any facial expression she pumped me for a bit, i got bored again, so i flipped her over and doggie pumped her till I blew... after i pulled out she then handed me a tissue to remove the dom & clean up, stood there like a nurse again, collecting tissues and handing me more till I finished, all the time with her hand wrapped in a tissue so she didn't touch the one i was handing her...

i have been punting in Sydney for a long time, and this has to be the worst punt i've ever had.
this girl is pretty to look at....but thats it unfortunately
how i even got hard and blew is still beyond me.
Kyoto, you need to lift your game if you gonna survive in a market that has Ginza & 359 Riley offering
impeccable service for around the same value..

Sorry to hear about that :(
I think they need to do some training with their girls ...

[CunningLinguist]

An Australian born caucasian in a budget brothel? Your fate was already written down mate.

Yeah, but you never know, you could be lucky and stumble on something good.
Lucky for us though that Parkerfun has TOFTT so we all know to avoid her now. This list is getting longer ...

[rooter]

Not looking too promising for Kyoto so far! That's 2 ARs and both really bad.
Holly's clinical approach to punting sounds about as sexy as having a colonoscopy!
It reminds me of my very first venture into paying for sex way back in my early 20s - it put me off punting for 10 years!
I started punting again a few years ago but this time with Asian girls and discovered a whole new world and haven't looked back since.

[Kyoto206]

Hi, its Jesse here. I apologize for the disappointing experience, we have brought this issue to Q and he has been in a lengthy talk with Holly. We will try our best to improve the service. In the meanwhile, the Kyoto team has always been trying to keep the standards up with our Japanese girls, and we have other girls who we have had dozens of good reviews of. Momo, Kaori, Mika, Nami to name a few, and they're all here right now tonight. Please don't let one disappointing experience ruin your impression of the overall establishment, as most of the other girls I assure you are different (and we have 53 girls total with a lot of amateurs coming and going every so often). Again I apologize and will try our best to improve the service of Holly. Thanks a lot for the understanding :)

[Punter Poontang]

I think the moral of the story is that with places like this, varied nationalities and hence no "standard" of service (i.e. it can and will vary greatly from girl to girl, depending on what they are comfortable with), you just have to ask a shitload of questions in your intro.

It's not exactly uncommon that WL's don't kiss or don't like to be fingered, so you just have to ask up front if that's the kind of service you're after. The girls aren't mind-readers, if you don't ask up front you've no-one to blame but yourself for your own expectations not being met. If you're uncomfortable asking such questions, or want a guaranteed service standard, there are plenty of other establishments but obviously they're tougher on your wallet.

Assume nothing*, you've got nothing to lose by asking questions up front, and can only possibly benefit by not being disappointed in the room.


* touching tits is an exception, that should be implied and girls who forbid it should be ushered into another industry pronto.

[billionaire]

An Australian born caucasian in a budget brothel? Your fate was already written down mate.

try 219 Croydon :miao:

[Gucci2012]

hello fellow punters,
this is my first AR and i was hoping it was going to be a good one,
but sorry to say, it's not gonna be pretty.....lol....but you deserve to know!

i've been a fan of Sakura for a while now....some hot girls there this year!
having read that the Sakura team was headed over to 206, and that asian heaven
from the past, Kyoto, was back in town, how could i resist?

around 10.30pm last night i headed in the door, with a $20 discount voucher in hand...
nice atmosphere, you could hear girls laughing out back, music playing, friendly gentleman
greeted me and led me to a waiting cubicle, clean, nice lounge.....all seemed well so far..

around 6 girls came thru and introduced themselves...Yolanda first, she offered BBJ in intro? (she got a bad AR yesterday)
then an array of sexy asian girls, one african, then an out of it or drunk short girl, then...WOW....Holly, sexy aussie, tall, blonde
hot lingerie, and a body you could fuck'n die for!...thought yeah...i'm happy as a pig in shit if i can can fuck this chick!

I picked her, and went for the half hour...$100 + $20 voucher....the gentleman took the $, and called out to her to come get me..
well, that was a while ago now, yep, I waited about 10-15 minutes before Holly collected me and up the cold flight of stairs we went,
into the room and she asked to do an inspection/health check, no problem there, she says have a shower and I'll be back...then whispers
"the cleaner you get the better the service i give"...i responded with "that I can do"...she left, i showered.....
the waiting continue guys...another 10 mins goes by and she returns, i'm lying on the bed, she goes to the beside table ,and starts getting things prepared, almost looked like a nurse setting up a medical procedure kit, she finally lies down next to me, applies KY to my cock, and starts yanking, i go for the grope and it's " you cant touch anywhere around or in my pussy, i dont kiss, and would you like some french?" by this time i'm getting impatient and after she cleaned the gel off my cock with rough paper towels, she put the dom on me and she started to suck my cock, got bored with that and said "get on", she got on and without any facial expression she pumped me for a bit, i got bored again, so i flipped her over and doggie pumped her till I blew... after i pulled out she then handed me a tissue to remove the dom & clean up, stood there like a nurse again, collecting tissues and handing me more till I finished, all the time with her hand wrapped in a tissue so she didn't touch the one i was handing her...

i have been punting in Sydney for a long time, and this has to be the worst punt i've ever had.
this girl is pretty to look at....but thats it unfortunately
how i even got hard and blew is still beyond me.
Kyoto, you need to lift your game if you gonna survive in a market that has Ginza & 359 Riley offering
impeccable service for around the same value..

Punting for along time??? Bro if this is your worst punt please share your best. 359 Riley offering impeccable service??? Are you suggesting they are on par with Ginza??? Lololololol I politely disagree. :-p

[BlueBirdDuke]

Hi, its Jesse here. I apologize for the disappointing experience, we have brought this issue to Q and he has been in a lengthy talk with Holly. We will try our best to improve the service. In the meanwhile, the Kyoto team has always been trying to keep the standards up with our Japanese girls, and we have other girls who we have had dozens of good reviews of. Momo, Kaori, Mika, Nami to name a few, and they're all here right now tonight. Please don't let one disappointing experience ruin your impression of the overall establishment, as most of the other girls I assure you are different (and we have 53 girls total with a lot of amateurs coming and going every so often). Again I apologize and will try our best to improve the service of Holly. Thanks a lot for the understanding :)


Wow! A straight and sincere apology. Good on ya KYOTO!
I love blonde aussie hotties! I dont mind falling in line for the "improved" Holly experience.

I remember having a similar experience with a blonde bombshell at 22 Hunter BUT I had a much better time since we had some sexy spa funtimes before hopping into bed.
She was as liberated in the spa as she was in the sack. Sadly that shop has folded.

Hope you guys stick around and get more blondies on your roster!

[CunningLinguist]

Punting for along time??? Bro if this is your worst punt please share your best. 359 Riley offering impeccable service??? Are you suggesting they are on par with Ginza??? Lololololol I politely disagree. :-p

359 is not on the same level as Ginza, but is above the old Sakura and by the sounds of it the new Kyoto 206.
Lets wait a bit longer and see how the new Kyoto pans out, they are saying the right things, we just need to see some good ARs and of some good girls.

[refokkused]

For the guys that have been around for a long time they will remember kyoto206 as always been a lucky dip. I have had fantastic experiences and complete duds but you keep coming back as there is always the chance you might find an amateur gem. A lot of the japanese girls are legit students who are new and just dabbling in the field to make a bit of extra cash.

for guaranteed PSE, cash out a little more and go to the established places =)

[lonely heart]

Kyoto, please also sort out your pricing. I though u are doing promotion $95 half an hour but was told $110.

[Sextus]

I love blonde aussie hotties! I dont mind falling in line for the "improved" Holly experience.

That is true. We get lured in by the promise of what we want and end up having a shit time of it.

Holding arms across breasts and locking legs together and having compressed locked together dry lips seem to me like intractable attitude problems. Namely, she being utterly undesirous of you or of having sex. I suppose a young, inexperienced man can deal with that and just be happy about blowing his load. For anyone else it is psychologically disturbing to be so unwanted, and to actually pay money for the insult.

I was wondering how the girl can do a 180 degee turn on this when sex is 100% mental in the first place?

I don't think a bad review is enough to alter things. But they are great to inform the rest of us who to avoid, even if she is superficially attractive - and a cauc to boot.

An Australian born caucasian in a relatively inexpensive brothel is well schooled, by cultural upbringing alone, in the specialised techniques of doing the absolute least for the most (money.)

So who is the next brave volunteer to open his wallet, transfer his folding stuff to her enrichment, dud or not, and test the conclusions of my experience? You, bluebirdduke?

[CunningLinguist]

That is true. We get lured in by the promise of what we want and end up having a shit time of it.

Holding arms across breasts and locking legs together and having compressed locked together dry lips seem to me like intractable attitude problems. Namely, she being utterly undesirous of you or of having sex. I suppose a young, inexperienced man can deal with that and just be happy about blowing his load. For anyone else it is psychologically disturbing to be so unwanted, and to actually pay money for the insult.

I was wondering how the girl can do a 180 degee turn on this when sex is 100% mental in the first place?

I don't think a bad review is enough to alter things. But they are great to inform the rest of us who to avoid, even if she is superficially attractive - and a cauc to boot.

An Australian born caucasian in a relatively inexpensive brothel is well schooled, by cultural upbringing alone, in the specialised techniques of doing the absolute least for the most (money.)

So who is the next brave volunteer to open his wallet, transfer his folding stuff to her enrichment, dud or not, and test the conclusions of my experience? You, bluebirdduke?

One thing for sure is it won't be me ...

[Sizematters]

Hi guys,

I have been reading this thread with increasing frustration.... Not with the punters that have posting their opinions, we have taken that on board and spoken to Holly.
My main frustration is with those punters that have come in from this forum used their vouchures and don't want to post about their favourites incase they get too busy. They take from the other punters but give nothing back to the forum or to reward the good hardworking girls.
Our young Sherina and others have been putting out hoping for a review ..... 30 or 40 vouchures and more than 1150 views and not one review, come on guys!!!
I know girls I can gaurantee will give the highest standard so ask my receptionists to recommend one if you are a bit unsure.

As Punter Poontang said 'assume nothing and ask lots of questions' we won't be offended and lets the girls know to be clear whats on the table before they start the booking.
I have been back at 206 just one week now and have bought many high quality girls in replaced some duds and have set new standards in place for the rest.
There have been 4 owners and 5 sets of management since I was last here and the reputation on the forums of 206 has become quite TOXIC I know it will take a little while to change those perceptions and that is why the punters goodwill is so important to me.
I hope to see some more positive posts in the near future.
Regards
Q

[Sextus]

Hi Q, I am the lucky possessor of one of your vouchers. Fear not! I am an hopelessly prolific reviewer!

I look different experiences and so it is sherina I am very keen to see...

I'm looking for her to be rostered on again.

[BlueBirdDuke]

So who is the next brave volunteer to open his wallet, transfer his folding stuff to her enrichment, dud or not, and test the conclusions of my experience? You, bluebirdduke?

Give the guy a break. Teething problems are not unusual with (re)setting up shop. Like I said I don't mind falling in line if Q can assure me of an improved experience.
You said it yourself Sextus, sex is a mental activity so my preference for blondes masks a sub-par service as long as it is not glaringly underwhelming.

This is the first and only review on Holly thus far. Girls have good days and bad days. They have racial preferences. They get PMS. At other times, they will click really well with you and you have an exceptionally good time together. Also, I am confident enough in my ability to charm a girl to turn an otherwise moribund coupling into an acceptable, and sometimes memorable, session.

All else fails, having a dud punt in a 'budget brothel' ain't sending me to the poor house. Now if this thread were about 5*, or MOC, or TMC then I'd be more guarded...but it's not like they have blonde aussie hotties on.

[Sextus]

I am confident enough in my ability to charm a girl to turn an otherwise moribund coupling into an acceptable, and sometimes memorable, session.

"Moribund coupling" A very apt image bluebirdduke!

As I said above though, such an experience makes me feel very bleak indeed, and so I have become very cautious in my punting.

Good luck with the charm methodology, it is a great virtue to have confidence about this. At least Holly makes this path easier because of a common language. I'm looking forward to your review, so I hope you don't delay seeing her. As I said in my other post, blonde aussies are a drawcard to all of us - but even they know that, and so swap their rarity for poorer service to keep the equation balanced.

On another matter, I cannot make any sense at all of Kyoto's roster. As far as I can see it is just a long list of girls with no dates or times for any of them. I might as well be reading the phone book for all the information it gives.

[Kyoto206]

"Moribund coupling" A very apt image bluebirdduke!

As I said above though, such an experience makes me feel very bleak indeed, and so I have become very cautious in my punting.

Good luck with the charm methodology, it is a great virtue to have confidence about this. At least Holly makes this path easier because of a common language. I'm looking forward to your review, so I hope you don't delay seeing her. As I said in my other post, blonde aussies are a drawcard to all of us - but even they know that, and so swap their rarity for poorer service to keep the equation balanced.

On another matter, I cannot make any sense at all of Kyoto's roster. As far as I can see it is just a long list of girls with no dates or times for any of them. I might as well be reading the phone book for all the information it gives.

Hi its Jesse here. Sorry about the confusion, the third post in the roster is the description of all the girls and not the roster. We have since moved the daily roster to the second post of the thread, http://forum.aus99.com/showthread.php?36585-KYOTO-206-Commonwealth-Surry-Hills-TODAY-s-Roster-(no-reply-please)

Regarding Holly, we have had her on for quite a few weeks, and there has never been a single bad feedback before this, and she has had a lot of regulars and we have numerous phone calls almost every other day for her, hence we assumed she was doing just okay. So yeah we are very thankful for the review, because it draws our attention to the matter and that is the first step of improvement :) We are always aiming to improve every aspect of the establishment. In the meanwhile again please come and try our other girls! Call us on the phone, ask for me (Jesse) or Andy and you can ask which girls we have on that particular day that have the most good reviews and we'll be able to tell you :)

[simon82]

As I said above though, such an experience makes me feel very bleak indeed, and so I have become very cautious in my punting.


that's how ppl said about punting cuz we won't know the girls unless we try,but to save our wallet we gotta more careful b4 go punting :sweat:
like me know i will read ppl review b4 go for hunting :miao::miao:



On another matter, I cannot make any sense at all of Kyoto's roster. As far as I can see it is just a long list of girls with no dates or times for any of them. I might as well be reading the phone book for all the information it gives.

+1 they always late for update their roster just like today they start update their roster at 7.11pm :spook:
how do we know the girls work during the day or in the morning when the shop open?they should fix it though



the waiting continue guys...another 10 mins goes by and she returns, i'm lying on the bed, she goes to the beside table ,and starts getting things prepared, almost looked like a nurse setting up a medical procedure kit,

:shout::shout: that's how she is though,10m goes by + 2m prepared just left 18m for FS :spook:
Btw its true she had great body with nice ass but for the service was kinda decent just like i said in my post b4 about her, but 160/hour u already get blonde nice body with ass that was kinda bargain n another place u pay around 350 or 400/hour and get deluxe room with better service if u know which girl is though:cool2:

well my recommendation girl is try with june she is singapore,she works at 206 b4 sakura team back to kyoto and she got better service or with chloe she is korean and momo u can take shower together with her imo but if u got beard gotta shaving first cuz she easily itchy when u lick her body

alrite guys enjoy ur punting and i will wait ur AR :miao::miao:

[Oneonone]

Sounds like Holly has been working in a Caucasian shop reminds me why I changed to Asian!

[wthing]

I could tell you the sory from old timesin 206.
Q provided spegial price/vouchers ( 70/30 ) to try cuacasian girls and they been very good.
Ah memories of Shona ( Hall of Fame ) and Rachel still with me..
I think varying price for 30 min for a new place would be a good business practice
considering tough economic times... With going price 80-90 $$/30 asking $110 for unexperienced/untested
girls a big gamble in my book.

[simon82]

Sounds like Holly has been working in a Caucasian shop reminds me why I changed to Asian!

Yupp she is been work in one of the shop at parramatta

[BlueBirdDuke]

OK, I've just seen Holly and I am sorry to disappoint you parkerfun and Sextus but I had a good time with her.
I'll do a proper AR when I have the time but this should quash your doubts about her:

- picked me up a couple of minutes and up to the room soon after choosing her from the lineup.
- you got one thing right --> body-to-die-for!
- friendly as the girl next door. seriously, I would love to take her out for a whole day of fun and some night clubbing if she'd agree to it.
- health check is standard with her.
- she was back in the room even before I finished showering
- she does use KY to get you running but really only to prep you for a...
- ...great CBJ! She gave me one in this exact position...

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQmU06YpHgQNOcukVa3JPLyZ0WxHO83d y5y-d7PntBLco4Ypg6e

If you got this and still have the guts to complain, something is wrong with you!
I almost blew then and there but I had to hold it in so I can enjoy her some more.
TBH, I am getting hard again just thinking about it. Yum!

- she was craving for some doggie so I was like "How can I say no to that perfectly-shaped ass?" As I pumped away, the sounds she made and the sight of her getting impaled on my rock-hard-cock almost had me looking over my shoulder to check for a camera crew. It felt like I was in a porn movie. Awesome!

And you were wondering how you got over the line in the end? Because she is HOT and she is good! That's why!!! An audio-visual cocktail of sexual bliss.

I saw her late in the evening and despite her getting 1-hour bookings back-to-back for the last 5 or so hours, I still got great service. We clicked really well and she was practically begging me to see her again as soon as I could. Even kissed me goodbye while sending me off. Maybe I'll go back tomorrow. Who knows?

Mind you, Holly is not the only hottie here. I noticed Kyoto has an amazing collection of ladies. One of the best ones I have seen in a while. Not all magazine material, but many are. Pop in and see for yourself, especially on a Friday.

[Sextus]

I'm certainly not disappointed Bluebirdduke - I'm just realistic. The rarer a type of girl in an establshment like this, ie a young attractive blonde caucasian, the less she has to offer to do as well as the other (much more common) asian girls do - even if they are equally attractive. It is simple economics - supply level vs demand level. And this is also demonstrated in the horrendous rates that the caucasian brothels charge for a lower service level. In this sense, yes, Holly is a real find.

And she knows it.

[BlueBirdDuke]

I'm certainly not disappointed Bluebirdduke - I'm just realistic. The rarer a type of girl in an establshment like this, ie a young attractive blonde caucasian, the less she has to offer to do as well as the other (much more common) asian girls do - even if they are equally attractive. It is simple economics, supply level vs demand level. And this is also demonstrated in the horrendous rates that the caucasian brothels charge for a lower service level. In this sense, yes, Holly is a real find.

And she knows it.


Granted that you are. For the other readers, my point here is for such gems, and not just Holly, you gotta raise your game to get a commensurate increase in service quality. Appearance, compliments, timing, jokes, rhythm. These little things count for a better-then-average session. Anyone still thinking that once you've paid your dues, you can just lay there and be treated like a King (with any girl in any brothel) will be unpleasantly surprised. Even 'identical' car models coming off the assembly line have minor differences.

Why am I putting in such an effort to uphold Kyoto? I like their management, their straightforwardness, their facilities, their ladies, pricing, even their lobby sound system, among other things. There are way too many dud shops out there for you bunch to be wasting time bagging this shop. They may not yet be Ginza or 533 or MOC, etc. but they are up there with the good ones. So give them a break and let them find their footing. I am confident they will deliver as they already had for me.

What good does it do us punters if a potentially great brothel exits early in the game out of sheer frustration with an ungrateful customer base?

Nurture, don't torture.

[Sextus]

Bluebirduke, I like your eloquence. But I wasn't saying anything that wasn't true, and I don't believe in self-censorship - or censorship at all, beyond the rare commonsense need for it. Maybe I am a bit burnt from too many minimum service punts, and poor Holly was standing in as a target for the baggage of my historic ire. But this forum is fantastic for readers, including myself, to try to avoid them. It is, at least, the best chance we have.

I'm sure you will read my new review about Sherina from Kyoto. This is all equally true, and it is a good review!

[BlueBirdDuke]

Done. I'd shake your hand my friend. Alas, it still has Holly's wonderful scent on it and I'd like to keep it to myself for now. :)

YMMV, newbs. It gets better from here, even with the same girls.

[CunningLinguist]

Maybe Holly was spoken to after the feedback before and has lifted her game now.
If so then this is good, it means the owner has acted on it and things got better.
It is better if we are all truthfull like Sextus so the "bad girls" can get feedback and lift their game, or not...

[BlueBirdDuke]

Maybe Holly was spoken to after the feedack before and has lifted her game now.
If so then this is good, it means the owner has acted on it and things got better.
It is better if we are all truthfull like Sextus so the "bad girls" can get feedback and lift their game, or not...

That much is obvious. I hope you don't miss the counterargument.

[Maxmanic]

I want to preface my post by clarifying that I have no gripe with Kyoto, I think they’re a great shop. Nor do I have a single racist bone in my body. I love women of all colours 😁✌️
I’m simply making an observation that Kyoto happens to highlight with it’s rate disparity. I just feel that it’s pay discrimination towards Asian girls that work really hard, offer incredible services not available anywhere else and take more risk in doing so but still forced to charge less for their beauty and skills. 😕

In 2018 with all this equality and pay parity for women in workforce, or #metoo movement, Black Lives Matter in the US and a bunch more I could go on, the point being, equality in all areas matter, but apparently not in this industry and not for Asian girls.

SO reading this thread and having just been on their website, how do they still justify charging more for Caucasian girls over Asian girls?

In other words, allowing Caucasian girls to earn more by setting a higher rate. Clearly they offer less services, less intimacy (no bbbj, or rimming or even kissing sometimes) than Asian girls.

They take less risk also by not offering those services, which by most logical thinking should warrant a LOWER rate not a HIGHER, since risk is rewarded by higher rate in most professions.

I’ve booked Caucasian girls from time to time but never at a mixed shop. On principle alone I couldn’t. I go to all Caucasian shop for that.

I think Kyoto can be progressive and charge same rates regardless of race?

Sorry for the long post 😬

[Byron2001]

The reason western girls come to Asian places is because they have a novelty factor and they get paid less a the hourly rates ( compared to what they get at the western places) but they get a higher turnover and hence get better pay. Also Asian men don't generally come to brothels while they're drunk or on drugs ( why would you?).
I love Caucasian girls because the nice ones have great bodies (and maybe some are more open to anal than Asian girls) but the frequency of attitude problems is higher. That's my biggest turnoff. Had the exact same issue at Cleopatra's the last time I was there. Some girl jerking my dick like it was a piece of meat and I was paying for it.
In punting never is the saying you get what you pay for so true. Budget places tend to attract the worse performances because they don't enforce any standards.

[carl__johnson__]

I had similar experience with Grace in kyoto 206.... The service in 206 is really horrible... Avoid this place!