Massage place too help with sciattic nerve complaint

[Fisher]

Hi all im after any info on a shop that can help with sciattic nerve problem it has been playing up for seven days and driving me nuts.
Any releif at the moment will do.

[AHLUNGOR]

Hi all im after any info on a shop that can help with sciattic nerve problem it has been playing up for seven days and driving me nuts.
Any releif at the moment will do.

Emergency Room St Vincent's Hospital or Royal Prince Alfred Hospital.

Good luck brother.

Hope you feel better soon.

Cheers

:smile:

[aussiegaigin]

You would be better off going to a chiropractor.

Good MLs might get you some temporary relief, but a chiro will move your bones around properly.

[CunningLinguist]

Hi all im after any info on a shop that can help with sciattic nerve problem it has been playing up for seven days and driving me nuts.
Any releif at the moment will do.

There is no quick fix, massage won't really help for this.
I suggest you look at your posture.

[rooter]

Chiropractors, physios, osteopaths, massage therapists?
You may as well go to a witch doctor!
There is no cure for sciatica.
Manipulation will just make it worse!
Basically it will just sort itself out eventually
If the pain is unbearable take paracetamol but nothing stronger as it will just lead to tolerance and addiction.
The good news with sciatica is it will eventually go away on it's own.
You have to br patient though. It could take 2 to 4 weeks.

[CunningLinguist]

Chiropractors, physios, osteopaths, massage therapists?
You may as well go to a witch doctor!
There is no cure for sciatica.
Manipulation will just make it worse!
Basically it will just sort itself out eventually
If the pain is unbearable take paracetamol but nothing stronger as it will just lead to tolerance and addiction.
The good news with sciatica is it will eventually go away on it's own.
You have to br patient though. It could take 2 to 4 weeks.

I agree.

[wilisno]

There is no quick fix, massage won't really help for this.
I suggest you look at your posture.
You'll be surprised what acupuncture can do to fix this problem !

[CunningLinguist]

You'll be surprised what acupuncture can do to fix this problem !

Acupuncture works for some things, but not for sciatica.

[wilisno]

Acupuncture works for some things, but not for sciatica.
It cured me once, that's why I said so.

[Licker]

There is no quick fix, massage won't really help for this.
I suggest you look at your posture.


You'll be surprised what acupuncture can do to fix this problem !

Yeah, You stick long enough needles along your spine and it does wonders to your posture. :burn:

On a serious note, have you seen a doctor and had proper imaging done?
The cause of the problem might be something different.

My father was incorrectly diagnosed (if you can call it a diagnose by chiropractors, who want you to keep on coming to see them).
When he finally got around to going to see (under pressure) a proper doctor, a specialist in orthopedics and had an MRI done, they found that 3 disks in his spine had reduced in height to less than 5 mm.
While an operation would otherwise have been an option, not for him anymore as he was told that he would not likely survive the operation (he's close to 80).
But when I think that he started seeing the hacks 20 years ago, when the problem could have been fixed... arghhh.
So now he's been very, very careful in everything he does, eat a lot of pain killers for the rest of his life and there are days when he cannot get out of bed without help as the legs just won't work.

And no more chiropractors or massages. Improperly applied pressure at the damaged disks could kill him instantly.

So, I suggest, go and see a doctor and get it checked properly so you know what the cause is.

[wilisno]

Yeah, You stick long enough needles along your spine and it does wonders to your posture. :burn:


That's the wonder of acupuncture ! No needles were placed in the spine. Just a couple on the neck, one in the forearm and that's it !

[CunningLinguist]

Yeah, You stick long enough needles along your spine and it does wonders to your posture. :burn:

On a serious note, have you seen a doctor and had proper imaging done?
The cause of the problem might be something different.

My father was incorrectly diagnosed (if you can call it a diagnose by chiropractors, who want you to keep on coming to see them).
When he finally got around to going to see (under pressure) a proper doctor, a specialist in orthopedics and had an MRI done, they found that 3 disks in his spine had reduced in height to less than 5 mm.
While an operation would otherwise have been an option, not for him anymore as he was told that he would not likely survive the operation (he's close to 80).
But when I think that he started seeing the hacks 20 years ago, when the problem could have been fixed... arghhh.
So now he's been very, very careful in everything he does, eat a lot of pain killers for the rest of his life and there are days when he cannot get out of bed without help as the legs just won't work.

And no more chiropractors or massages. Improperly applied pressure at the damaged disks could kill him instantly.

So, I suggest, go and see a doctor and get it checked properly so you know what the cause is.

Agree.

Some people think Chiropractors are doctors, but they are not.
Last time I checked here was no scientific proof that Chiropracty works.
In fact in some cases it can be dangerous and some people have died from neck manipulation.

[CunningLinguist]

It cured me once, that's why I said so.

If it was only once might be a coincidence ?
This link (http://www.mydr.com.au/sports-fitness/sciatica-symptoms-causes-and-diagnosis)gives the possible causes for it and none of them look like thye could be cured by acupuncture.
Ie. acupuncture can't cure bone problems or tumours.

The one that might be possible is Piriformis syndrome, but this muscle lies deep in the butt so acupuncture needles won't get to it.
Maybe there are other causes, and you might be one of the lucky few that can get fixed by acupuncture.

[wilisno]

If it was only once might be a coincidence ?
This link (http://www.mydr.com.au/sports-fitness/sciatica-symptoms-causes-and-diagnosis)gives the possible causes for it and none of them look like thye could be cured by acupuncture.

The one that might be possible is Piriformis syndrome, but this muscle lies deep in the butt so acupuncture needles won't get to it.
Maybe there are other causes, and you might be one of the lucky few that can get fixed by acupuncture.
Maybe luck, maybe coincidence, more importantly, it fixed the problem, if it doesn't work, there's no side effects, no drugs taken !

[CunningLinguist]

Maybe luck, maybe coincidence, more importantly, it fixed the problem, if it doesn't work, there's no side effects, no drugs taken !

That's one of the great things about the "soft" remedies, performed properly they do no harm.
I actually like getting stuck by the acupuncture needles :)

[AHLUNGOR]

If the OP is not willing to go to hospital or seek professional help and just want to go to massage shop and have a temporary relief then he can try these following MLs:

Lisa from Stanmore
Candy from QVB
Shelly from Snow Lotus
Amy from 316 Central

Good luck

Cheers

[PhoBot]

Sciatic pain is caused by a bulging disc touching your sciatic nerve.
There are two cures for this.

1: Time. With a bit of luck when inflammation reduces, the pressure on the disc will also reduce.
2: Surgery. If the disc is totally protruding, pretty much nothing but surgery will work. A microdiscectomy will prevent the disc from touching the nerve.

Your first point of call should be a GP and get him to arrange an MRI. Don't waste your time with a CT scan. Without an MRI you have NO IDEA what you are dealing with.

Muscular massage may give temporary relief to pain but avoid any kind of manipulation. You should also visit a physio as they will commence you on a core strength building regime which will help you in the long run.

Don't waste your money on acupuncture, it's been conclusively debunked by science based medicine.
The only kind of acupuncture which has been proved effective with double blinded placebo controlled tests is where a tens machine is connected to the needles, which shows it's actually the tens machine that is actually working.

As for Chiro. There are two main groups of Chiropractors. Straights and Mixers

Straights believe in the pure origins of chiro which is a dogma, not a science based self adjusting modality.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_chiropractic These guys advise against vaccinations, and believe in just about every alternative mumbo jumbo around.
The other group of chiros are called mixers. Their beliefs are based on the above, but include modern science based methods taken from physiotherapy.

In the meantime, don't stop activity. Keep walking and do light stretches as best you can, and maybe go get a nice blow job to keep a smile on your face.

[Fisher]

I have had a mri previosly about two years ago booked in for monday for another mri on monday the last one showed no obvious signs of a cause so hopefully this mri does so i can get it sorted out.
Thanks for the tips on what could be causing it the gp put me on panadene forte but cannot take them during the day at work due too operating machinery.

[wilisno]

Sciatic pain is caused by a bulging disc touching your sciatic nerve.
There are two cures for this.

1: Time. With a bit of luck when inflammation reduces, the pressure on the disc will also reduce.
2: Surgery. If the disc is totally protruding, pretty much nothing but surgery will work. A microdiscectomy will prevent the disc from touching the nerve.

Your first point of call should be a GP and get him to arrange an MRI. Don't waste your time with a CT scan. Without an MRI you have NO IDEA what you are dealing with.

That's what my doctor said, " inflammation ", he even proved it with my X-ray, and said nothing could be done and let it take its course. Until I found this GP who was also an accupunturist, he estimated it should work within 10 sessions, I felt the relief from the first, and the problem gone in 5. He's a GP, so it was bulk billed too !

[wilisno]

Don't waste your money on acupuncture, it's been conclusively debunked by science based medicine.
The only kind of acupuncture which has been proved effective with double blinded placebo controlled tests is where a tens machine is connected to the needles, which shows it's actually the tens machine that is actually working.


" Science based medicine " ! That's the key words !

That's why I rarely go to alternative medicine myself. But when the science based medicine failed, I just had to seek help from other sources, and I found accupunture !

Of course the western medicine society would denounce the non traditional ones ! Hehe

[PhoBot]

" Science based medicine " ! That's the key words !

That's why I rarely go to alternative medicine myself. But when the science based medicine failed, I just had to seek help from other sources, and I found accupunture !

Of course the western medicine society would denounce the non traditional ones ! Hehe

Actually I used a wrong and outdated terminology. The correct is 'evidence based medicine'.

In double blinded placebo controlled tests, acupuncture fails every time :)

[IamSam]

+ 1 for acupuncture.
I was very sceptical at first but it cured my ongoing shoulder injury in 5 sessions.
Haven't had a problem since but I would do it again if I had to.

There are many Chinese medicines that ''science'' can not explain.
It may be due to the fact that the billion dollar pharmaceutical companies are the behind the ''research''.

As for the OP's question I would suggest to seek professional help, rub and tug ml's would not do you any good unless you want to relax and have your cock pulled.

[IamSam]

The options vary, whether you choose, natural, chinese or western medicine somethings may or not work.
All of the above have their pros and cons but it would be ignorant to discredit a medicine that has been practised for over 5000 years or any medicines that has come from the earth or any medicines that have been tried and tested through years of research and study.

Keep an open mind and choose what works for you.

[wilisno]

Actually I used a wrong and outdated terminology. The correct is 'evidence based medicine'.

In double blinded placebo controlled tests, acupuncture fails every time :)
Yep ! One should place his full confidence in " Evidence " of medical findings ! ;) ;) ;) Although so often they revise it to announce the opposite findings every ten years or so ! Lol

Such as Coffee is good, coffee is bad, aspirin is good, aspirin is bad, drinking wine is good, drinking wine is bad, chocolate is good, chocolate is bad... until the next findings ! ;) ;) ;)

[PhoBot]

Yep ! One should place his full confidence in " Evidence " of medical findings ! ;) ;) ;) Although so often they revise it to announce the opposite findings every ten years or so ! Lol

Such as Coffee is good, coffee is bad, aspirin is good, aspirin is bad, drinking wine is good, drinking wine is bad, chocolate is good, chocolate is bad... until the next findings ! ;) ;) ;)

You'll actually find that is the way very very narrow experiments or observations are reported. Some lab geek will find that cancer cells are effected this way or that by some substance, then the media who need to fill content splash it as a headline. If all you can manage to do is scan a Daily Telegraph article you will believe everything is bad for you.

As evidence based findings changing, well that's a good thing because science is self correcting, unlike things that are DOGMA based. Seriously if you believe that science is all a conspiracy, I've got a nice tin foil hat to sell you.

[IamSam]

The tin foil hat suits you,
Don't take it off!

[wilisno]

The options vary, whether you choose, natural, chinese or western medicine somethings may or not work.
All of the above have their pros and cons but it would be ignorant to discredit a medicine that has been practised for over 5000 years or any medicines that has come from the earth or any medicines that have been tried and tested through years of research and study.

Keep an open mind and choose what works for you.
+1, 5000 years of history, trillions of patients cured, including an open brain surgery live with no anesthetic, in front of the TV cameras !

[wilisno]

You'll actually find that is the way very very narrow experiments or observations are reported. Some lab geek will find that cancer cells are effected this way or that by some substance, then the media who need to fill content splash it as a headline. If all you can manage to do is scan a Daily Telegraph article you will believe everything is bad for you.

As evidence based findings changing, well that's a good thing because science is self correcting, unlike things that are DOGMA based. Seriously if you believe that science is all a conspiracy, I've got a nice tin foil hat to sell you.
I didn't say any conspiracy, I said they believe it's true at the time they publish their findings, until the next findings which is so often the direct opposite. Not 5000 year of clinical evidence though !

The tin foil hat you're gonna sell me, is that the one you're wearing ? ;) ;) ;)

[PhoBot]

I didn't say any conspiracy, I said they believe it's true at the time they publish their findings, until the next findings which is so often the direct opposite. Not 5000 year of clinical evidence though !

The tin foil hat you're gonna sell me, is that the one you're wearing ? ;) ;) ;)

Haha just for the record, it's the science denier who wears the tin foil hat. I'm the guy in the lab coat.

[wilisno]

Haha just for the record, it's the science denier who wears the tin foil hat. I'm the guy in the lab coat.
Not in the public eyes ! And I'm not wearing it, but you've got one to sell, that explains everything ! ;) ;) ;)

[PhoBot]

This will be the last post I make about this.

I don't care about the origin or modality of anything, provided it works. And by works I mean has been subject to double blinded randomised placebo controlled clinical trials. (please do some research and discover the true meaning of this)

If you don't agree to this testing method, then unfortunately it puts you in the camp that doesn't believe in science, you can't have it both ways :)

[wilisno]

This will be the last post I make about this.

I don't care about the origin or modality of anything, provided it works. And by works I mean has been subject to double blinded randomised placebo controlled clinical trials. (please do some research and discover the true meaning of this)

If you don't agree to this testing method, then unfortunately it puts you in the camp that doesn't believe in science, you can't have it both ways :)
It's not the question of whether I believe in science or not in this case.

If you read my post properly earlier, you should have noticed that I said I take acupuncture as an alternative medicine when the main stream medicine failed !

If you followed one thing blindly even if it doesn't work, it's called superstition, not science !

If you fail to understand this, it just puts you in the camp of tin hat wearing mobs ! ;) ;) ;)

[tpol]

That's what my doctor said, " inflammation ", he even proved it with my X-ray, and said nothing could be done and let it take its course. Until I found this GP who was also an accupunturist, he estimated it should work within 10 sessions, I felt the relief from the first, and the problem gone in 5. He's a GP, so it was bulk billed too !
Could u share your doctors details pls

[wilisno]

Could u share your doctors details pls
Check your pm.

[PhoBot]

It's not the question of whether I believe in science or not in this case.

If you read my post properly earlier, you should have noticed that I said I take acupuncture as an alternative medicine when the main stream medicine failed !

If you followed one thing blindly even if it doesn't work, it's called superstition, not science !

If you fail to understand this, it just puts you in the camp of tin head wearing mobs ! ;) ;) ;)

(ok one more post) But I said I don't care what it is, as long as it actually works. And of course I don't follow anything blindly, as even all aspects of western medicine must be weight up against harm to benefit. (any doctor will tell you this too)

I'm happy to admit that science based medicine doesn't have the answer to everything, but at least it doesn't profess to have answers when it doesn't, that's the nature of science. It's self correcting and any invalid claims will get torn down eventually.

Acupuncture has been very well tested, and is show to have limited benefits for pain management, but the numbers are just a little bit better than placebo.
Read this as a good piece of logic about acupuncture and Chinese medicine in general

http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4259

[wilisno]

(ok one more post) But I said I don't care what it is, as long as it actually works. And of course I don't follow anything blindly, as even all aspects of western medicine must be weight up against harm to benefit. (any doctor will tell you this too)


And I don't care what you believe or don't believe, I won't attack you for what you believe, nor should you ! But I said I sought alternative medicine because the main stream medicine failed, because I don't follow one type of theory blindly.

And as for " any doctor will tell you this ". I did say the doctor who provided me with acupuncture is a GP in Australia who knows the best of both worlds !

[CunningLinguist]

Acupuncture works for me for some things but not for others.
I think it is a case of it does no harm and sometimes fixes some things so it is then oversold. It is up to each person to work out what it helps them with.
Some alternative medicines are complete BS though, homeopathy for example, so I don't lump them all in the one basket.

[wilisno]

Acupuncture works for me for some things but not for others.
I think it is a case of it does no harm and sometimes fixes some things so it is then oversold. It is up to each person to work out what it helps them with.
Some alternative medicines are complete BS though, homeopathy for example, so I don't lump them all in the one basket.
Exactly the sentiment !

[wilisno]

Totally agree with Wilisno on this..
You must be a Chinese ! :miao:

[Gringo]

I haven't tried chiropractors or acupuncture because I always thought it worked best for people that believed it worked. I don't trust western medicine because they over subscribe pharmaceuticals .

You make a good point about acupuncture being around for 5,000 years and I suppose the same could be said for Fengshui .

I think I will keep an open mind .

[IamSam]

your mind is like a parachute and will only work when it's open.



I haven't tried chiropractors or acupuncture because I always thought it worked best for people that believed it worked. I don't trust western medicine because they over subscribe pharmaceuticals .

You make a good point about acupuncture being around for 5,000 years and I suppose the same could be said for Fengshui .

I think I will keep an open mind .

[Licker]

You make a good point about acupuncture being around for 5,000 years and I suppose the same could be said for Fengshui .

I think I will keep an open mind .

Same can be said about beer. It's been around for 5000 years, and helps to most problems.
Even when it does not really help to the problem itself, at least you forget the problem for a while.

I think I will keep an open mouth. :thirst:

[IamSam]

and then enjoy the problems when you sober up!

some say you might have a drinking problem... you drink... you get drunk... you fall down... you get up... NO PROBLEM!!

[Licker]

and then enjoy the problems when you sober up!

some say you might have a drinking problem... you drink... you get drunk... you fall down... you get up... NO PROBLEM!!

I don't have a drinking problem, nor do I ever fall down.

It seems though, that sometimes - and the fact that this happens when I'm drinking is purely accidental - the gravitational forces of earth shift 90 degrees and floors become walls and the opposite wall (used to be ceiling) seems so far away and unreachable.

[Gringo]

ha ha.....I see your point.

I think I will keep an open mouth. :thirst:[/QUOTE]