Bangkok in late Feb - Trip Synopsis

[4FoW2]

Quick report from my recent trip to Thailand

Firstly, NEP – bars are a giant scam, yes, talent is there but if you don’t keep buying lady drinks the girls won’t sit with you. Bought a girl a lady drink, she asked me to BF her after 5 mins. When I said I wanted to stay in the bar for a while she asked for another lady drink. When I said wait till I finish mine she up and left with not even a thank you. For a night out you would probably spend 1000 baht on drinks while you interviewed the girl, 1000-baht BF and 3 maybe 4 or even 5 for the girl…adds up to minimum of 5000 baht – about 215 AD and that’s ST and that usually means I make you come then I go. You prob get 45 mins with the girl at your hotel before she is itching to leave. I would say to get a true GFE “non rushed” session of about 2 hours you would be looking at forking out 10k baht which is 430 AD (not this little black duck.) BUT there are some stunners, cuties and sex on a stick girl so maybe try once. Also you are competing with rich Asian (Jap’s, Koreans, etc ) and younger 20 something guys so this makes you less appealing. Same MO in all the bars. Didn’t bother with Soi Cowboy – assumed same same but not different.

Wechat, TF, other social media sites – time consuming. Had plenty of offers – usual ST price was 1500/2000. Probably had 10 girls from social media sites. They were happy with the payment plus 200 baht tip. Performance was average though and what showed up was usually 10/15 older than pic. My line wouldn’t work so had trouble pre chat and inspection. For the 1500/2000 it was maybe a full hour, sometimes 2 shots. Real mixed bag with social media and as I said takes time but during the hot days in Bangkok besides lay by the pool what else is there to do?

Didn't try Fiwifans ... seemed quick difficult to use...

FL – Soi 4, Suk Rd, other various Soi- probably the most cost-effective way to hunt. The asking price was 1500/2000. The good thing is you see exactly what you are getting. Had 3 of my top sessions with 2 Thais and 1 Viet at different times. My advice perch yourself at Hooters or bars on Suk Rd, watch talent cruise by. BUT you gotta be quick – saw 2 small cute as, African girls walk past but was too slow. Dam!!! Quantity is huge, quality generally 5 – 8’s FL ing but can find diamonds like Thai spinner I had one night OMG.

Massage Shops – aimed for 500 baht massage shops + whatever extra fees- most were happy with 1000 baht more for FS. Don’t mind these as girls are doable, massage allows time to interact, and many will meet you after / before they start work.

Other Observations – Seems the MO now is you need to chase me not I am desperate for your money. Some girls either FL, or bars would completely ignore you, maybe I’m getting old. There were some amazingly fuggily women trying it on and OMG some Arab women dressed in their post box black garb soliciting – you got to be kidding. There seemed to be less tourists generally. Outside of Bangkok – Patts, Hua Hin etc ST price was more like 1500 not 2000. Last time in Thailand was 2019 Pre COVID, yes, its still is a playground BUT its slowly becoming more cut throat and much much more money focused esp the bars.

The days of a SYT spinner giving you a GFE and when asked about payment saying “up to you” are well and truly gone, sadly. You need to be cashed up to compete and meet demands of the girls - but you can still get some OK Thai pussy for 85AD...

Also compared to BrisVegas it is 1,000 times better, obviously.

Now for the withdrawal symptoms.....

[CumShot]

thanks for the names of those places.

Knowing you I'm sure you were disappointed to miss the african girls.

[Tlito]

Thanks Mate
Glad you had fun..
As you said, a lot better than Australia…
On your worst day in Thailand you are going to have sex with a cute Asian girl…they are still nothing like the whinging Aussie hags who think their only reason on earth is to make life tough for Aussie men…ha

[4FoW2]

Thanks Mate
Glad you had fun..
As you said, a lot better than Australia…
On your worst day in Thailand you are going to have sex with a cute Asian girl…they are still nothing like the whinging Aussie hags who think their only reason on earth is to make life tough for Aussie men…ha

when I was young yeah I had my fair share of Aussie beach girls but as you get older you soon realize that after 25 the home grown talent turns into self entitled heffers.

BM who try to compare Asian sweeties with the ML we have here have rocks in their head.

Note to others The world is changing in the mongering department - go now - I have noticed an almighty change over the past 10 years. Mongering and prostitution are changing all around the world esp as Asian economies improve. Anyone know a place where the girls are getting younger, more beautiful and less expensive? Exactly.
4FoW2

[Tlito]

Ditto
I noticed in Hua Hin last time ..All the girls just wanting drinks ..so much so that for the first time in at least 5 trips I am not going and will never go back to HH …in the past have always had 2 beauties in my room for practically nothing just wanting to please so and happy with a nice bloke and a good breakfast…and girls always wanted fun and never before a girl who only worked for drinks..
At least in Pattaya or Bangkok there is so many girls …street walkers who you know just want to fuck for money…
Enjoy it while you can gents I agree with 4F0W2

[4FoW2]

Ditto
I noticed in Hua Hin last time ..All the girls just wanting drinks ..so much so that for the first time in at least 5 trips I am not going and will never go back to HH …in the past have always had 2 beauties in my room for practically nothing just wanting to please so and happy with a nice bloke and a good breakfast…and girls always wanted fun and never before a girl who only worked for drinks..
At least in Pattaya or Bangkok there is so many girls …street walkers who you know just want to fuck for money…
Enjoy it while you can gents I agree with 4F0W2

yeah and Tlito brings up a good point re SW - in the past SW were shunned as bar girls were prettier, cheaper and "it seemed" you had a guaranteed better result.
These days I have found SW to be less BS than bar girls and better VFM, particularly if you are an older gent who doesn't mind the 30-40 ( but still hot) version.

A mate went to the Nana bars and yes he got 2 x 9 out of 10 lookers on 2 different occasions but f'me he paid handsomely for that. AND he told me the performances were top class but.......

My MO lately is to ask how much - when they say 1500/2000 I say how about if I give you 2500 or even 3000 and you do ( list my requirements) - they usually jump at the chance and I get an enthusiastic "tailor made " performance of what I like.
We're talking about paying either $64 AD or $136 AD...and as they are getting above their asking rate no need for tips..but sometimes I am nice.
Glad I studied psychology at Uni!
4FoW2

[Durtle]

Quick report from my recent trip to Thailand

Firstly, NEP – bars are a giant scam, yes, talent is there but if you don’t keep buying lady drinks the girls won’t sit with you. Bought a girl a lady drink, she asked me to BF her after 5 mins. When I said I wanted to stay in the bar for a while she asked for another lady drink. When I said wait till I finish mine she up and left with not even a thank you. For a night out you would probably spend 1000 baht on drinks while you interviewed the girl, 1000-baht BF and 3 maybe 4 or even 5 for the girl…adds up to minimum of 5000 baht – about 215 AD and that’s ST and that usually means I make you come then I go. You prob get 45 mins with the girl at your hotel before she is itching to leave. I would say to get a true GFE “non rushed” session of about 2 hours you would be looking at forking out 10k baht which is 430 AD (not this little black duck.) BUT there are some stunners, cuties and sex on a stick girl so maybe try once. Also you are competing with rich Asian (Jap’s, Koreans, etc ) and younger 20 something guys so this makes you less appealing. Same MO in all the bars. Didn’t bother with Soi Cowboy – assumed same same but not different.

Wechat, TF, other social media sites – time consuming. Had plenty of offers – usual ST price was 1500/2000. Probably had 10 girls from social media sites. They were happy with the payment plus 200 baht tip. Performance was average though and what showed up was usually 10/15 older than pic. My line wouldn’t work so had trouble pre chat and inspection. For the 1500/2000 it was maybe a full hour, sometimes 2 shots. Real mixed bag with social media and as I said takes time but during the hot days in Bangkok besides lay by the pool what else is there to do?

Didn't try Fiwifans ... seemed quick difficult to use...

FL – Soi 4, Suk Rd, other various Soi- probably the most cost-effective way to hunt. The asking price was 1500/2000. The good thing is you see exactly what you are getting. Had 3 of my top sessions with 2 Thais and 1 Viet at different times. My advice perch yourself at Hooters or bars on Suk Rd, watch talent cruise by. BUT you gotta be quick – saw 2 small cute as, African girls walk past but was too slow. Dam!!! Quantity is huge, quality generally 5 – 8’s FL ing but can find diamonds like Thai spinner I had one night OMG.

Massage Shops – aimed for 500 baht massage shops + whatever extra fees- most were happy with 1000 baht more for FS. Don’t mind these as girls are doable, massage allows time to interact, and many will meet you after / before they start work.

Other Observations – Seems the MO now is you need to chase me not I am desperate for your money. Some girls either FL, or bars would completely ignore you, maybe I’m getting old. There were some amazingly fuggily women trying it on and OMG some Arab women dressed in their post box black garb soliciting – you got to be kidding. There seemed to be less tourists generally. Outside of Bangkok – Patts, Hua Hin etc ST price was more like 1500 not 2000. Last time in Thailand was 2019 Pre COVID, yes, its still is a playground BUT its slowly becoming more cut throat and much much more money focused esp the bars.

The days of a SYT spinner giving you a GFE and when asked about payment saying “up to you” are well and truly gone, sadly. You need to be cashed up to compete and meet demands of the girls - but you can still get some OK Thai pussy for 85AD...

Also compared to BrisVegas it is 1,000 times better, obviously.

Now for the withdrawal symptoms.....

Hi there, thanks for your post. I was in Bangkok over the Christmas New period and noticed some very hot African girls. I’ve never been with one and was wondering what they’re like in comparison to Thai girls? Are they up for more than others?

[Tlito]

Hi there, thanks for your post. I was in Bangkok over the Christmas New period and noticed some very hot African girls. I’ve never been with one and was wondering what they’re like in comparison to Thai girls? Are they up for more than others?
Last I was over I missed out on a cute African…but the reason I wanted her in the first place is I had a cute as African the time before…small clean and great fun…great sex …
But no better or worse than Asian..

[memememe]

I used to date some African girls in Brisbane many years ago - when they were arriving form countries like Liberia who had civil wars - so they ended up here as refugees with nothing.

I remember many used to work in shops around Moorooka at that time.

Saw one little African girl - about 27 - small with a tight body -

first date we went on she didnt wear any underwear - I saw that she had no panty line and commented - her reply was - makes access easier for you !!
she used to do strip dances for me and grind on my cock with a great lap dance - still cant listen to a couple of old Beyonce songs without getting hard thinking of her
when she had per period she used to apologies and suck me dry instead to keep me happy

they were magical girls - and if the lights are off all you can see is a big white teeth smile while you fuck...

[Durtle]

She sounds like a dream. Did you end up marrying her?

[4FoW2]

I think we should form an African Girls Appreciation society and have regular meetings at Moorooka.
There used to be a real cutie who worked at Rocklea who would give me a GFE while I DFK and played with her pussy. She often commented me on my "skills" - lol good for the ego.
I'm surprised more of them don't get into the industry.
4FoW2

[CumShot]

I think we should form an African Girls Appreciation society and have regular meetings at Moorooka.
There used to be a real cutie who worked at Rocklea who would give me a GFE while I DFK and played with her pussy. She often commented me on my "skills" - lol good for the ego.
I'm surprised more of them don't get into the industry.
4FoW2

If there can be a Ladyboy thread...why not start an African Girls thread?

[rubit moore]

Quick report from my recent trip to Thailand
……….
Firstly, NEP – bars are a giant scam, yes, talent is there but if you don’t keep buying lady drinks the girls won’t sit with you. …..

Also compared to BrisVegas it is 1,000 times better, obviously.

Now for the withdrawal symptoms.....

Great report 4FoW2, agree - Nana and Cowboy are such a ripoff… only worth going in to play pool, mingle a bit and have a drink or two and tune-in on some eye candy. I don’t mind buying a couple of drinks for a girl purely on this basis so unless we really spark and it’s worth it I’ll let them know i’d like to go for a test drive otherwise I'm tyre-kicking just for the fun of it.

FL’s are also the go as you mention, I ended up banging some fit spinner a couple of days after we exchanged numbers after we eyeballed each other whilst shopping in Terminal 21. That interaction alone left me walking on air, like fuck me where else does this shit happen! The only time I thought shopping was worth it!

Soi 24/1. Never get a bad punt down here, just enjoy the rock up, hello welllcuummm, rocks off, then leave and go get a beer and a pad kee mao for afterwards. My fave is EZ massage. Even when you walk out after a sesh the other shops are calling you in, always walk around there with a smile on my dial!

Been down to Hua Hin like yourself and yea I liked the PoonSuk area for massage places and da boomboom. Quite cheap. All those bars etc, soi 80, 94, bintabaht you’ve got to really dig deep, I didn’t really see the attraction although I scored a local 40yr old chick from Bumble for the night after we matched and partied down soi 94 which was a bit more fun. Variety is the spice of life bro! Sabai Sabai!

Still prefer it to Sydney punting. Different environment, better nightlife, better choices and down to the individual at the end of the day. How’s ya withdrawal syptoms hehe.

[Wank_Somemore]

Yea, NEP is a rip off these days. In the early 2010's, could have a girl all night for 4k baht and barfine was half of what it is today. No one really pressured you to buy drinks and tip the mamasan. I can't even imagine how much cheaper it was back before I even started punting in BKK. Now LT is $5k but only 4-5 hours, barfine is 1k. Then the mamasan has the audacity to ask you buy a drink and then give her extra tips as well. Once you give to one, the other mamasans come like pigeons and beg for tips. Be prepared for black face when you refuse. You could easily spend 10k all up.

But I still think with my little brain and get sucked in. I do like to have a perve, have a drink and listen to the DJ (some are alright). Although, I must say, once you become regular with a girl, she would usually come straight to the hotel and spend the whole night. Just pay her 5k + dinner/drinks/movies etc

[4FoW2]

Going back later this year and am going to delight in seeing how long it takes them to throw me out for not BF or even buying a drink. Anyway I'm only there for a perv.
I admit there are some 9's in there but do you think their performance will be of 9 quality, unless you pay big and I'm not just talking about 1000BF + 3000+ for her + mamas an fee + lady drinks. @ 5/6 k.

I would suggest a Soi 4 FL of 7/8 quality would give you a better performance, be more DTE and leave you thinking - that's a fair trade for less than half the Nana fee.

All over the Western world guys moan about being screwed by Western women and then they go to Thailand and they get screwed again, not in the right way.
Nana Plaza should be renamed "Suckers".
4FoW2

[CumShot]

Africans4FoW2

For your African adventures I think I know where you can hit the mother load.

I was a walking along Soi 11 at 2am. The footpath was absolutely packed with African spinners. It seemed that about every 10 metres there was a car with ice box and a bar type setup. a few stools for talking to the ladies and buying drinks. Heaps of music and a real party atmosphere on the street.

I was only there the one night so that's my data point. I don't know what time they start, I don't know what time they finished. I did not see any (none) significant African girl presence during the days.

I couldn't stop to do more research. I had pulled a girl from Today@Soi18 https://www.google.com/maps/@13.7397349,100.5560817,3a,75y,306.09h,93.06t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssNV13d-EZm522DSgFLV1ew!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu for BF1000 + 2000B overnight.

[kingwally]

I went to Picasso on Friday and fucked a lovely young girl called Mona...2500 baht for an hour of sucking and fucking.

[4FoW2]

For your African adventures I think I know where you can hit the mother load.

I was a walking along Soi 11 at 2am. The footpath was absolutely packed with African spinners. It seemed that about every 10 metres there was a car with ice box and a bar type setup. a few stools for talking to the ladies and buying drinks. Heaps of music and a real party atmosphere on the street.

I was only there the one night so that's my data point. I don't know what time they start, I don't know what time they finished. I did not see any (none) significant African girl presence during the days.

I couldn't stop to do more research. I had pulled a girl from Today@Soi18 https://www.google.com/maps/@13.7397349,100.5560817,3a,75y,306.09h,93.06t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssNV13d-EZm522DSgFLV1ew!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu for BF1000 + 2000B overnight.

Your a legend Cumshot ...but 2AM...maybe I'll have a massage at 10 a few hours kip and then up and at em between 12 - 2am .
Thanks

[CumShot]

Your a legend Cumshot ...but 2AM...maybe I'll have a massage at 10 a few hours kip and then up and at em between 12 - 2am .
Thanks

Not such a legend. Time flies in fantasy land.

[CumShot]

Back in the land of working and some time to reflect on my Thailand days.

Generally I found that Th was much more structured than Ph. Girls whom want to meet foreigners will be in Bars or dating sites. I didn't make any progress with normal girls that I encountered on this short trip.

I made quite a few visits to various shops.

Soapy massage
Happy End massage (with sex)
Foot massage upstairs for sex
Back massage upstairs for sex
ThaiFriendly dates for ST sex
ThaiFreindly repeats for LT (after they had ST above)
BKK bar girls
CNX bar girls
WeChat first date (that went nowhere as she still wants more dates to be sure)

In hindsight, I spent too much time on TF to find that I was probably just getting Bar girls anyway. I probably encountered some regular girls but they were out of my area or ignored me once they knew I was tourist only.

Expenditure wise I am estimating I probably spent A$750 on sex services over two week as per above.

I did meet two girls that would be seriously investigated as co-habitating GFs if I was in country for an extended time. One was a 35 yo corporate marketing manager and a surprise meet with 45yo Chinese national single mum independently wealthy.

As part of my MO I've since deleted my Line, my TF, my Th Whatsapp and my Th Wechat. I'll never know what happens to any of these.

Cheers

[4FoW2]

Back in the land of working and some time to reflect on my Thailand days.
Generally I found that Th was much more structured than Ph. Girls whom want to meet foreigners will be in Bars or dating sites. I didn't make any progress with normal girls that I encountered on this short trip.
I made quite a few visits to various shops.
Soapy massage
Happy End massage (with sex)
Foot massage upstairs for sex
Back massage upstairs for sex
ThaiFriendly dates for ST sex
ThaiFreindly repeats for LT (after they had ST above)
BKK bar girls
CNX bar girls
WeChat first date (that went nowhere as she still wants more dates to be sure)
In hindsight, I spent too much time on TF to find that I was probably just getting Bar girls anyway. I probably encountered some regular girls but they were out of my area or ignored me once they knew I was tourist only.
Expenditure wise I am estimating I probably spent A$750 on sex services over two week as per above.
I did meet two girls that would be seriously investigated as co-habitating GFs if I was in country for an extended time. One was a 35 yo corporate marketing manager and a surprise meet with 45yo Chinese national single mum independently wealthy.
As part of my MO I've since deleted my Line, my TF, my Th Whatsapp and my Th Wechat. I'll never know what happens to any of these.
Cheers

Thanks Cumshot - yeah I've often wondered about all the hard work and effort only to get the same result- bar girls or pro's.

The thing is, at least for me, there is bugger all to do during the day. Once you've been to Bangkok you can't go to the Grand Palace every trip - trip after trip. For me its something to do and hope I might find a diamond.
But agree there is some simplicity in the point and shoot method that appeals.

$750 Aus over 2 wks ????? thats about 1300 Tbaht per day???? ok maybe you had some rest days but ??????. - last trip 13 days in Thailand and spent around $1600 Aus - I do have some rest days but usually allocate 3000 a session with FL of a nightime and massage of 2-3000 after lunch.

Would you say your best fucks were the ones you didn't plan - I've often found its the unplanned ones that are the best.

4FoW2

[CumShot]

Would you say your best fucks were the ones you didn't plan - I've often found its the unplanned ones that are the best.

4FoW2

good question. it was the chubby bar owner who ran out of young girls so decided she'd take the punt on me. that woman could suck cock and loved what she did.

nothing to do in BKK for me either. I spent most of my time in CNX and Hua Hin. Early mornings I would visit the food markets, buy some random exotic foods. We had access to a car so day times were often out driving through the provinces.

CNX Loi Kroh is ok to visit until you find your perfect bar but Chiang Mai has lots of other areas worth exploring. I got a nice barfine (400B) from a small 3 girls bar on Soi 1 near the moat.

As for budget, the TF bar girls were <1,500B. one was 1300B. The massage sex was all up 1300B each time.

Maybe instead of staying in BKK, do a tour off to some regional towns. All of the towns we visited had a 'walking street'

[4FoW2]

PS when I go in Oct I hope I can get TF Bg's for < 1,500 ...bargin!!...............and massage girl for 1300 ...so most massage is 500/600 and extra's ????? Or are we talking Chang Mai prices not Bangkok prices????? Appreciate your feedback.

What's the magic words Cumshot .....I have small dick???? I am rich man ????? My place has air con?

4FoW2

[CumShot]

PS when I go in Oct I hope I can get TF Bg's for < 1,500 ...bargin!!...............and massage girl for 1300 ...so most massage is 500/600 and extra's ????? Or are we talking Chang Mai prices not Bangkok prices????? Appreciate your feedback.

What's the magic words Cumshot .....I have small dick???? I am rich man ????? My place has air con?

4FoW2

magic word is get out of bangkok.

You can get full service massage places in Hua Hin for 1300B and TF bar girls for 1500B ST. I stayed away from the 5* end of town. Stayed away from Soi 80.

Massage joints along this road I found to be good value. Here are two places side by side that have been quality checked. Google Maps (https://www.google.com/maps/@12.5720266,99.9571105,3a,75y,119.88h,90.44t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sf0AcuiQRz4vjKC2jFSR0Pg!2e0!7i1 6384!8i8192?coh=205409&entry=ttu)

The advertised price for massages in HH I recall was 300B/hr. When I did the extras I just said "all inclusive" which was agreed.

It's quiet in these towns at the moment.

[4FoW2]

Thanks CShot - seems the MO for Phil too - bars in manila Angeles etc want 5000/6000 peso - go Cebu TF girls 1500/2000.
had a bit of fun in HH but found it difficult to find anything above a 7 ish.
Anyway compared to good ol BrisVegas it's heaven on earth and we shouldn't grizzle.
4FoW2

[CumShot]

One issue I found in HH was the constant preference for ST with an offer of LT on the second session. That didn’t suit me.

I’m looking for an overnight companion more than a ‘service’. Looking for something more than just straight to the room.

There were girls available all hours.

Some of the chat made me think they were using Google translate.

I did have one TF offer to pick me up for coffee. Ok I’m game. Then in the caR that evening she said let’s go to walk a beach. So she drove to a secluded spot about 15 minutes north of HH. Im totally expecting to be robbed by now. Anyway we sat and talked. She dropped me home. She wanted another date next day. I have no idea what her plan was. There was easier options and I did not see her again. .

[Gentle]

Nice. African girls go off on my opinion

[4FoW2]

Nice. African girls go off on my opinion

Tell me more ....please...experiences???????

4Fow2