Seeking sugarbaby messages

[andrewv]

I thought I’d share messages from girls on seeking dot com. At least the ones that are a bit far fetched.

I will not name them here but can share in private messages.

Please share yours too:

M———y: “ im looking for 1800 ppm nsa arrangement.
im french girl
do you like french?“

My reply: “ I love French but baby you are way too high for me. I don’t want to waste your time. I usually meet for 3 hours and provide 500.
Thanks”

M——-y: “ haha. sorry ill pass.
i think your in the wrong website. you should go to escort website cheap girls not here“

…then she blocked me. As you can imagine, I’m heartbroken. I was dying to hand over $1,800 for her to open her French legs. :)

[curiousgeorge1023]

No, just NO. There's a whole heap of thread for Sugar Baby & Daddy here. Your $500 will be good to someone else in there just not this french gurl.

If we all push back with these ridiculous asking ppm, guess what's gonna happen? Also that $1800 is there a guarantee that it would be a great sex? At that pricepoint heck get yourself a well reviewed escort and get your arse licked and the whole shebang. 😁

[marble]

Women hawking their services to many rich men? Better to punt.
Why compete to be the highest bidder?

Whats the point of overpriced sex in a hotel or your place and also paying for her designer bags?

I will only pamper a girlfriend wife or mistress, at least then there is a bit more exclusivity and connection

If she is asking $1000+ she better also provide a 3 hour DVD of the evening and a signed photo

My social life would be pretty bankrupt if I was wasting time chasing any type of connection with these working ladies living the high life, off rich men. And chasing overpriced sex

I never entered the SB scene
The ideal client seems to be very rich men who know the price of a fuck, but not the value of a fuck

[rooter]

ridiculous scene. Just go to a brothel or an escort agency.
Much less bullshit and probably much cheaper and less hassle and much more variety and quality
Just accept the fact that you are paying to have sex with a girl that in normal non-payment circumstances you would have zero chance of fucking.
If you go to a sugar babe site or massage shop or a brothel or an escort agency or a private online its all the same thing, you are paying to have sex with a hot girl that in the real world you could never fuck.
So just pay your money and enjoy. Live the fantasy, Enjoy!

[Hidden Python]

The one thing about these sugar babes, most of them have already worked in a brothel or as an escort, why else will they be hocking their box for cash, a normal non working girl wouldn’t consider this type of work and would rather hook up on a dating site and fuck guys for free,
If you want to treat yourself get a nice hotel room for the night, and find a lovely escort to go out for dinner and than take her back to your hotel room, than have the complementary breakfast in the morning together and than send her on her way

[GoldfishMan]

Not just used to be a WG, there's a distinct possibility that they didn't do very well in that job hence they had to turn to SB.

Not attractive enough, not skilled enough, or bad attitude. It could be anything. SB is like a big gamble for a WG if they were already doing the job.

From what I've seen in the SB profiles, they wouldn't cut it as a WG. I mean I sure wouldn't book them if they were presented to me as a WG.

Need to take all those claims of "my SB is so hot" with a huge grain of salt.

[mn69]

I thought I’d share messages from girls on seeking dot com. At least the ones that are a bit far fetched.

I will not name them here but can share in private messages.

Please share yours too:

M———y: “ im looking for 1800 ppm nsa arrangement.
im french girl
do you like french?“

My reply: “ I love French but baby you are way too high for me. I don’t want to waste your time. I usually meet for 3 hours and provide 500.
Thanks”

M——-y: “ haha. sorry ill pass.
i think your in the wrong website. you should go to escort website cheap girls not here“

…then she blocked me. As you can imagine, I’m heartbroken. I was dying to hand over $1,800 for her to open her French legs. :)

Whoa! $1800. No poonani is worth that much. Doesn't matter how hot she is.

I agree with what others have said. Alot of SB's are probably failed WG's. Some are still WG's at the same time. I have also come across so much SB's with bad entitled attitudes. Thats probably why they couldn't thrive as a WG, where they need to have a good friendly attitude to retain repeat customers.

Always remember the ratio there. Theres way more SB's than SD's. Just take your money elsewhere if she's being unreasonable.

[JSteel96]

I thought I’d share messages from girls on seeking dot com. At least the ones that are a bit far fetched.

I will not name them here but can share in private messages.

Please share yours too:

M———y: “ im looking for 1800 ppm nsa arrangement.
im french girl
do you like french?“

My reply: “ I love French but baby you are way too high for me. I don’t want to waste your time. I usually meet for 3 hours and provide 500.
Thanks”

M——-y: “ haha. sorry ill pass.
i think your in the wrong website. you should go to escort website cheap girls not here“

…then she blocked me. As you can imagine, I’m heartbroken. I was dying to hand over $1,800 for her to open her French legs. :)

$1800 are you serious I can fuck a dozen Asian WLs for that!

[thelastdance]

The regular uninformed commentary on here about Sugarbabes does continue to amaze me.

Plenty of quality, talent and great value if you are in the know.

[ditchtheboss]

These comments are not accurate and consistent with my experience. Today I met a new SB, young hottie Aussie blonde, 22. I didn’t fuck her, she fucked me. She was with me for most of the afternoon and considering the hours was significantly cheaper, not in a brothel and a great fuck. It seems to me some fellas have some sort of issue with the SBs

[marble]

Ditchtheboss - what are the downsides of SB in your experience
The OP started with a story about overpriced sex
SBs gain from men who don't know market prices during this near recession
If you enjoy the company of a SB then enjoy the fun and expenses

Suits some men with deep pockets and thats perfect
Noted that you didn't reveal how much you pay in total for this ladies company

[xboyx]

Well, she has her point and you also have your point. There isn't any standard $$ figure here.

SB is still a dating game and has similarities like other dating apps and real life situations: We men make the initial contact to find out if the girl is suitable for us.

Some girls aim high and think they're worth $1k-$3k and hope to catch a big fish - the top 1% of the population. Tbh I haven't seen any girls on SB websites that are worth paying thousands of $, they're simply not my type. It'd be insane if these girls expect $1k+ from me, they better look at the mirror.

Other girls are more reasonable and will accept lower prices and they'll get more choices for themselves. Isn't it the same /similar to real life datings?

[GoldfishMan]

These comments are not accurate and consistent with my experience. Today I met a new SB, young hottie Aussie blonde, 22. I didn’t fuck her, she fucked me. She was with me for most of the afternoon and considering the hours was significantly cheaper, not in a brothel and a great fuck. It seems to me some fellas have some sort of issue with the SBs

I'll believe it when I see it. So far, all the profiles I've seen are either just ordinary or downright ugly, so bad they'd have to pay me to fuck them, lol!

[ditchtheboss]

Ditchtheboss - what are the downsides of SB in your experience
The OP started with a story about overpriced sex
SBs gain from men who don't know market prices during this near recession
If you enjoy the company of a SB then enjoy the fun and expenses

Suits some men with deep pockets and thats perfect
Noted that you didn't reveal how much you pay in total for this ladies company

In my experience and opinion the biggest downside of SBs is the hosting. I don’t host because I don’t want anyone going to my place uninvited, it happens. So having to book a room to see them to me is a downside. Over the past few months I have seen a few SBs and 2 of them hosted me. The others I had to find a place.

I don’t think the money is a downside and one doesn’t need deep pockets to have SBs. I don’t consider myself a real SD as I don’t do allowance I only do p p m. I also don’t take them shopping for expensive items. The only difference between my SBs and escorts or WLs is that I spend usually more than 3 hours with them, most of the time starting or finishing with a meal. Every time there is at least 2 rounds of sex. They give me a true girlfriend experience but we kiss good by and go our ways at the end of the day. Most of them message me almost everyday, just chatty chat but they are keeping me engaged as I know I am a source of income for them, it is nice though. I truly enjoy it. What I do with them is different than WLs or escorts although I could pay WLs to do what I do with SBs but it would end up much more expensive.

What I have with them is a girlfriend without the commitment.

I also don’t pay more than 600 p p m and there are plenty of girls who go for that and to me they are attractive and horny, they don’t use lube to fuck me like most WLs do, they get wet naturally abdicarem to truly enjoy the experience.

Some guys count every penny to be spent with SBs and conclude it is too expensive. It may be but I don’t look at it that way. If I have to get a room I make a whole experience for me out of that. Get a nice place in a location we can go places and have nice food. WRT food I don’t count it as an expense with SB. I can either go home and have an average dinner by myself or I can have a nice meal with a hottie on my arms. You know my choice.

Some may say that looking for a girl is a downside, you have chat, discuss price, etc… to me it is not a downside, it’s a hunt and I enjoy the hunt.

Just me and my experience

[ditchtheboss]

I'll believe it when I see it. So far, all the profiles I've seen are either just ordinary or downright ugly, so bad they'd have to pay me to fuck them, lol!

Oh I certainly have seen some profiles that even if the paid me I wouldn’t duck them. However to me there are plenty of hotties. Yesterday I saw a girl that was a fantasy to me. The kind of hottie that wouldn’t go out with me when I was at uni. Well she did yesterday and she got so wet the sheets were wet and she climaxed twice. A great experience and a fantasy realised.

[Putter]

There are worse ways to blow your cash.
I spent almost 1k on 2 x 30min lap dances plus extras at Minx recently.
Unfortunately the little head had taken over.
Great girls, good fun but still had blue balls at the end.
After i left, all i could think about was how much more fun i could have had with a sugar or one of ginza’s amazing K girls.

[marble]

In my experience and opinion the biggest downside of SBs is the hosting. I don’t host because I don’t want anyone going to my place uninvited, it happens. So having to book a room to see them to me is a downside. Over the past few months I have seen a few SBs and 2 of them hosted me. The others I had to find a place......
Just me and my experience

Nice. Good insights bro

[marble]

There are worse ways to blow your cash.
I spent almost 1k on 2 x 30min lap dances plus extras at Minx recently.
Unfortunately the little head had taken over.
Great girls, good fun but still had blue balls at the end.
After i left, all i could think about was how much more fun i could have had with a sugar or one of ginza’s amazing K girls.

Hell on earth. I would never, ever set foot in a strip club. Fuck that. Strip clubs are when you are 18 and have never heard of punting

Blue balls or overprice teasing

Lap dancing is a sad joke.
For one quarter the price I can have a sexy lady naked, on a mattress, horizontally dancing

Strip Clubs are the only real option our American friends, have as brothels are illegal. Don't act like an American

[Katon24]

In my experience and opinion the biggest downside of SBs is the hosting. I don’t host because I don’t want anyone going to my place uninvited, it happens. So having to book a room to see them to me is a downside. Over the past few months I have seen a few SBs and 2 of them hosted me. The others I had to find a place.

I don’t think the money is a downside and one doesn’t need deep pockets to have SBs. I don’t consider myself a real SD as I don’t do allowance I only do p p m. I also don’t take them shopping for expensive items. The only difference between my SBs and escorts or WLs is that I spend usually more than 3 hours with them, most of the time starting or finishing with a meal. Every time there is at least 2 rounds of sex. They give me a true girlfriend experience but we kiss good by and go our ways at the end of the day. Most of them message me almost everyday, just chatty chat but they are keeping me engaged as I know I am a source of income for them, it is nice though. I truly enjoy it. What I do with them is different than WLs or escorts although I could pay WLs to do what I do with SBs but it would end up much more expensive.

What I have with them is a girlfriend without the commitment.

I also don’t pay more than 600 p p m and there are plenty of girls who go for that and to me they are attractive and horny, they don’t use lube to fuck me like most WLs do, they get wet naturally abdicarem to truly enjoy the experience.

Some guys count every penny to be spent with SBs and conclude it is too expensive. It may be but I don’t look at it that way. If I have to get a room I make a whole experience for me out of that. Get a nice place in a location we can go places and have nice food. WRT food I don’t count it as an expense with SB. I can either go home and have an average dinner by myself or I can have a nice meal with a hottie on my arms. You know my choice.

Some may say that looking for a girl is a downside, you have chat, discuss price, etc… to me it is not a downside, it’s a hunt and I enjoy the hunt.

Just me and my experience
Hey mate I’m a silent viewer on this forum .. for the most part .. can you share some intel about your SBs .. im happy to reciprocate :)

[ditchtheboss]

Hey mate I’m a silent viewer on this forum .. for the most part .. can you share some intel about your SBs .. im happy to reciprocate :)

PM yours and I will reply

[ditchtheboss]

Nice. Good insights bro
Thanks mate, just what I do. I don’t compare SBs with WLs because I see them deliberately for a different experience

[xboyx]

In my experience and opinion the biggest downside of SBs is the hosting. I don’t host because I don’t want anyone going to my place uninvited, it happens. So having to book a room to see them to me is a downside. Over the past few months I have seen a few SBs and 2 of them hosted me. The others I had to find a place.

I don’t think the money is a downside and one doesn’t need deep pockets to have SBs. I don’t consider myself a real SD as I don’t do allowance I only do p p m. I also don’t take them shopping for expensive items. The only difference between my SBs and escorts or WLs is that I spend usually more than 3 hours with them, most of the time starting or finishing with a meal. Every time there is at least 2 rounds of sex. They give me a true girlfriend experience but we kiss good by and go our ways at the end of the day. Most of them message me almost everyday, just chatty chat but they are keeping me engaged as I know I am a source of income for them, it is nice though. I truly enjoy it. What I do with them is different than WLs or escorts although I could pay WLs to do what I do with SBs but it would end up much more expensive.

What I have with them is a girlfriend without the commitment.

I also don’t pay more than 600 p p m and there are plenty of girls who go for that and to me they are attractive and horny, they don’t use lube to fuck me like most WLs do, they get wet naturally abdicarem to truly enjoy the experience.

Some guys count every penny to be spent with SBs and conclude it is too expensive. It may be but I don’t look at it that way. If I have to get a room I make a whole experience for me out of that. Get a nice place in a location we can go places and have nice food. WRT food I don’t count it as an expense with SB. I can either go home and have an average dinner by myself or I can have a nice meal with a hottie on my arms. You know my choice.

Some may say that looking for a girl is a downside, you have chat, discuss price, etc… to me it is not a downside, it’s a hunt and I enjoy the hunt.

Just me and my experience

True true imo. SB is as close to a real GF as you can get, with sex but without committment. We men are naturally wired to enjoy the "hunting" experience and winning over a girl that we like. Finding a SB that you have a great time with is worth the money, and if you work out the costs, it's actually more value than normal punting.

Having to find a location is the downside though. Not all of us have the time to find a hotel/room. This put me off many times as well.

[xboyx]

Oh I certainly have seen some profiles that even if the paid me I wouldn’t duck them. However to me there are plenty of hotties. Yesterday I saw a girl that was a fantasy to me. The kind of hottie that wouldn’t go out with me when I was at uni. Well she did yesterday and she got so wet the sheets were wet and she climaxed twice. A great experience and a fantasy realised.

yea curious to know the costs as well, $500 ppm? 3 hours? dinner then action or just went straight to her place for the fun? can you please share

[ditchtheboss]

yea curious to know the costs as well, $500 ppm? 3 hours? dinner then action or just went straight to her place for the fun? can you please share

So, each girl is different. I had a room in the city this week and I saw two girls, one new and one ongoing SB.

The ongoing one she came into my room and we went to the movies then dinner back in the hotel then intimacy. We were together for several hours. With this girl you need to build the rapport and she slowly spends more time with you and does different activities.

The young blonde Aussie was 500 and stayed with me for 3 hours. Straight into my room, straight into sex. For those of us who know Dior, this one likes to talk as much as Dior but sex was good, really good for me.

[JSteel96]

Building a rapport with your regular sb makes a big difference. With mine we talk and joke together sex is always better and no dom. There is a level of trust with each other as well. Its a better GFE experience with no commitment as others have said. Mine always visits me at pre agreed times. The one thing is she is not a clock watcher. The one problem I have is not falling in love with her.

[Hemingford Gray]

The young blonde Aussie was 500 and stayed with me for 3 hours. Straight into my room, straight into sex. For those of us who know Dior, this one likes to talk as much as Dior but sex was good, really good for me.

Everyone says the same about Dior, she's great but she talks too much. Need to see that by myself. Heh.

[curiousgeorge1023]

I also have experience as a SD for a short stint, But like I said before $1800 might be too much for my preference.I would rather a double with 2 escorts at that kind of money. Having said that I have SB as well that is value for money. So I guess it really depends on your budget amd willingness to spend.

[ditchtheboss]

Everyone says the same about Dior, she's great but she talks too much. Need to see that by myself. Heh.

Go see Dior mate, she will take care of you nicely

[seablue]

What hotels (Sydney inner west, south west or west) do you use where there is no reception at the entrance or lift (to see the SB entering)? I'm looking for discretion..

[Katon24]

PM yours and I will reply
Have done :) have any questions feel free to ask .. looking for your end of the bargain

[Johnisfun1969]

What hotels (Sydney inner west, south west or west) do you use where there is no reception at the entrance or lift (to see the SB entering)? I'm looking for discretion..

I have used The Mill Hotel in Paninia, this is part of the club which has a nice restaurant and pub. The motel entrance is from the rear and there are few car parking spots also. You could pay at the reception also at the rear but seperate building.

The Peakhurst hotel seems to be decent also you can get bargains if booking in advance. Have not used it but checked out last week. It has a pub and restaurant. A lift takes you to room upstairs.

Neusuto Parramatta has reception at the entrance but your girl could easily walk in as if going to restaurant and take the lift. I have used this place and check in before the sb arrives. Then you can come to pick her up.
This won’t totally solve your problem. I guess you have to look at motels mostly as one can walk or park in front of the rooms usually.

[seablue]

Thanks mate. I will check these out. Need to find more options though. There were lots of SBs hosting at their places before covid, but it seems a bit different now.

[Aussieguyinsf]

Have started a Telegram group to trade info on Sydney SBs. Dm me with your telegram ID to join.

[seablue]

Just sent it. Thanks

[sydind]

Sent you a DM bro

[ozzieG]

Not sure I can do, but would love to know

[curiousgeorge1023]

dayuse dot com is what I use.

[Aussieguyinsf]

Have started a Telegram group to trade info on Sydney SBs. Dm me with your telegram ID to join.

Good response so far. Will be closing up access to the group soon. If you’re active on Seeking Arrangement and willing to share intel, dm me.

[DrML202]

Seeking.com was good a 3 to 4 years ago, back then you had more students looking to get naughty and make some extra cash now it's full of escorts charging an arm an leg to meet up. Even the subscription has doubled. Last time I was on there 2019. I had a Columbian girl in her 20's come to my place and fuck for a few hours for $300 she would also use that money to buy alcohol, food etc for both of us afterwards was a pretty good gig until covid hit and she disappeared.

[sukeong]

In my experience and opinion the biggest downside of SBs is the hosting. I don’t host because I don’t want anyone going to my place uninvited, it happens. So having to book a room to see them to me is a downside. Over the past few months I have seen a few SBs and 2 of them hosted me. The others I had to find a place.

I don’t think the money is a downside and one doesn’t need deep pockets to have SBs. I don’t consider myself a real SD as I don’t do allowance I only do p p m. I also don’t take them shopping for expensive items. The only difference between my SBs and escorts or WLs is that I spend usually more than 3 hours with them, most of the time starting or finishing with a meal. Every time there is at least 2 rounds of sex. They give me a true girlfriend experience but we kiss good by and go our ways at the end of the day. Most of them message me almost everyday, just chatty chat but they are keeping me engaged as I know I am a source of income for them, it is nice though. I truly enjoy it. What I do with them is different than WLs or escorts although I could pay WLs to do what I do with SBs but it would end up much more expensive.

What I have with them is a girlfriend without the commitment.

I also don’t pay more than 600 p p m and there are plenty of girls who go for that and to me they are attractive and horny, they don’t use lube to fuck me like most WLs do, they get wet naturally abdicarem to truly enjoy the experience.

Some guys count every penny to be spent with SBs and conclude it is too expensive. It may be but I don’t look at it that way. If I have to get a room I make a whole experience for me out of that. Get a nice place in a location we can go places and have nice food. WRT food I don’t count it as an expense with SB. I can either go home and have an average dinner by myself or I can have a nice meal with a hottie on my arms. You know my choice.

Some may say that looking for a girl is a downside, you have chat, discuss price, etc… to me it is not a downside, it’s a hunt and I enjoy the hunt.

Just me and my experience

Thanks for sharing. I look forward to SB adventures exactly cuz of the points you and others have mentioned. It was quite some time ago I have decided I'm not the marrying type. I'm just not that kind of guy. Maybe in the future some lady will change me but I doubt it.


Anyway my ideal relationship would be somewhere between GF and WL. Without the attachment/commitment/family issues of GF but with more emotional, more intimacy, more natural vibe than a WL. Some would say FB but good looking FB are hard to find.

I've become more and more disappointed with WLs recently. Maybe its an age thing, I'm over 37 now., going to brothels dun do it for me anymore. Especially popular ones. I've stopped going to Ginza many years ago even before covid. Rude receptionist aside, more importantly the place had become like a factory line. The last few times I ws there I had mental blocks cuz I knew 15 mins ago another guy just had his dick in her warm place where mine is now. To be honest I was quite grossed out.

Recently I was enticed to going N5M ( haven't been there in ages) to see a wl due to many glowing reviews from here and other forum but I left disappointed again. Instant regret. It's the same story. Heard some said after recent police raid, the place might be quiet but it was actually busy. The girl was even super busy. I guess she became popular. Arrived 15 mins late due to previous session. She was friendly but the whole session was too perfunctory. Very sure it's cuz she was booked out so she going on like speedy Gonzales a hundred miles an hour lol. Racing through the usual stuff, small talk, lay out sheet, shower, bj, sex etc. Boom boom boom going through the necessary checkpoints. Even the way she fast talked a regular conversation topic it's like she is running late for a meeting lol.

Not to mention my major pet peeves, putting fark ton of lube that I could hardly feel anything down there, time watching, asking me time and again do I feel like cumming. I knew it was $300 down the drain again. I mean appreciate her effort but at the end it felt like to me she straddled the line between enthusiastic and simply pushy. Became less fake nice and more demanding when she rushed me to shower and get dressed.

I'm sorry if this felt like a rant on a bad punt or if I named shops but it's my genuine experience, not opportunity to diss shops. Moreover this is probably the final straw for me for shops and turn to SB scene. I still go to massage shops like CBD styles, private girls and escort agencies as most girls there do give me less brothel wl vibes. Not ashamed to admit I have spent a fortune on them this year but returns are diminishing. I hope the SB scene will better suited for me in long run. Cost wise it might be close or more expensive but if the experience is more naturally close to GF than escorts/private girls, it's worth my money. I will see.

As for accommodation I really don't mind putting SBs up on nice hotels and dinner initially. I already do that for some privates and escorts anyway. Although I do wonder if they expect pre arranged meetings to occur on certain frequency like every two weeks, every week, every few days or something. That might be an issue lol.

[JSteel96]

Thanks for sharing. I look forward to SB adventures exactly cuz of the points you and others have mentioned. It was quite some time ago I have decided I'm not the marrying type. I'm just not that kind of guy. Maybe in the future some lady will change me but I doubt it.


Anyway my ideal relationship would be somewhere between GF and WL. Without the attachment/commitment/family issues of GF but with more emotional, more intimacy, more natural vibe than a WL. Some would say FB but good looking FB are hard to find.

I've become more and more disappointed with WLs recently. Maybe its an age thing, I'm over 37 now., going to brothels dun do it for me anymore. Especially popular ones. I've stopped going to Ginza many years ago even before covid. Rude receptionist aside, more importantly the place had become like a factory line. The last few times I ws there I had mental blocks cuz I knew 15 mins ago another guy just had his dick in her warm place where mine is now. To be honest I was quite grossed out.

Recently I was enticed to going N5M ( haven't been there in ages) to see a wl due to many glowing reviews from here and other forum but I left disappointed again. Instant regret. It's the same story. Heard some said after recent police raid, the place might be quiet but it was actually busy. The girl was even super busy. I guess she became popular. Arrived 15 mins late due to previous session. She was friendly but the whole session was too perfunctory. Very sure it's cuz she was booked out so she going on like speedy Gonzales a hundred miles an hour lol. Racing through the usual stuff, small talk, lay out sheet, shower, bj, sex etc. Boom boom boom going through the necessary checkpoints. Even the way she fast talked a regular conversation topic it's like she is running late for a meeting lol.

Not to mention my major pet peeves, putting fark ton of lube that I could hardly feel anything down there, time watching, asking me time and again do I feel like cumming. I knew it was $300 down the drain again. I mean appreciate her effort but at the end it felt like to me she straddled the line between enthusiastic and simply pushy. Became less fake nice and more demanding when she rushed me to shower and get dressed.

I'm sorry if this felt like a rant on a bad punt or if I named shops but it's my genuine experience, not opportunity to diss shops. Moreover this is probably the final straw for me for shops and turn to SB scene. I still go to massage shops like CBD styles, private girls and escort agencies as most girls there do give me less brothel wl vibes. Not ashamed to admit I have spent a fortune on them this year but returns are diminishing. I hope the SB scene will better suited for me in long run. Cost wise it might be close or more expensive but if the experience is more naturally close to GF than escorts/private girls, it's worth my money. I will see.

As for accommodation I really don't mind putting SBs up on nice hotels and dinner initially. I already do that for some privates and escorts anyway. Although I do wonder if they expect pre arranged meetings to occur on certain frequency like every two weeks, every week, every few days or something. That might be an issue lol.

Speaking from experience as long as you find the right lady to be your sb you can enjoy a level of intimacy, connection, not rushed. You call her for hook ups when ever you want and arrange times to meet discreetly. I've set mine up so I can just send her PayPal about $250 a hookup. No need cash anymore except for punting. With mine we enjoy each others company when I book her, we are friends but without the commitment of a GF relationship. Its important your sb is attractive to you, friendly and satisfies you in the bedroom. Once you know her better just go to hers at pre arranged times. Saves money on hotels etc. The sb is not that easy to find it took me years to find mine and I now know her for a decade to. Just hope you can find an sb that's right for you to, good luck bro.

[sukeong]

Speaking from experience as long as you find the right lady to be your sb you can enjoy a level of intimacy, connection, not rushed. You call her for hook ups when ever you want and arrange times to meet discreetly. I've set mine up so I can just send her PayPal about $250 a hookup. No need cash anymore except for punting. With mine we enjoy each others company when I book her, we are friends but without the commitment of a GF relationship. Its important your sb is attractive to you, friendly and satisfies you in the bedroom. Once you know her better just go to hers at pre arranged times. Saves money on hotels etc. The sb is not that easy to find it took me years to find mine and I now know her for a decade to. Just hope you can find an sb that's right for you to, good luck bro.

Thank you. Appreciate the genuine advice and well wishes. Hopefully it will work out like it did for you.

[xboyx]

Thanks for sharing. I look forward to SB adventures exactly cuz of the points you and others have mentioned. It was quite some time ago I have decided I'm not the marrying type. I'm just not that kind of guy. Maybe in the future some lady will change me but I doubt it.


Anyway my ideal relationship would be somewhere between GF and WL. Without the attachment/commitment/family issues of GF but with more emotional, more intimacy, more natural vibe than a WL. Some would say FB but good looking FB are hard to find.

I've become more and more disappointed with WLs recently. Maybe its an age thing, I'm over 37 now., going to brothels dun do it for me anymore. Especially popular ones. I've stopped going to Ginza many years ago even before covid. Rude receptionist aside, more importantly the place had become like a factory line. The last few times I ws there I had mental blocks cuz I knew 15 mins ago another guy just had his dick in her warm place where mine is now. To be honest I was quite grossed out.

Recently I was enticed to going N5M ( haven't been there in ages) to see a wl due to many glowing reviews from here and other forum but I left disappointed again. Instant regret. It's the same story. Heard some said after recent police raid, the place might be quiet but it was actually busy. The girl was even super busy. I guess she became popular. Arrived 15 mins late due to previous session. She was friendly but the whole session was too perfunctory. Very sure it's cuz she was booked out so she going on like speedy Gonzales a hundred miles an hour lol. Racing through the usual stuff, small talk, lay out sheet, shower, bj, sex etc. Boom boom boom going through the necessary checkpoints. Even the way she fast talked a regular conversation topic it's like she is running late for a meeting lol.

Not to mention my major pet peeves, putting fark ton of lube that I could hardly feel anything down there, time watching, asking me time and again do I feel like cumming. I knew it was $300 down the drain again. I mean appreciate her effort but at the end it felt like to me she straddled the line between enthusiastic and simply pushy. Became less fake nice and more demanding when she rushed me to shower and get dressed.

I'm sorry if this felt like a rant on a bad punt or if I named shops but it's my genuine experience, not opportunity to diss shops. Moreover this is probably the final straw for me for shops and turn to SB scene. I still go to massage shops like CBD styles, private girls and escort agencies as most girls there do give me less brothel wl vibes. Not ashamed to admit I have spent a fortune on them this year but returns are diminishing. I hope the SB scene will better suited for me in long run. Cost wise it might be close or more expensive but if the experience is more naturally close to GF than escorts/private girls, it's worth my money. I will see.

As for accommodation I really don't mind putting SBs up on nice hotels and dinner initially. I already do that for some privates and escorts anyway. Although I do wonder if they expect pre arranged meetings to occur on certain frequency like every two weeks, every week, every few days or something. That might be an issue lol.

well feel like I'm reading my own thoughts lol, except that I still go to massage shops
SB is the next level of punting. It's not as easy as visiting an established shop where things are already set up for you like a business transaction. But we human all seek the experience don't we

[BigPedro666]

Been sugarering on and off for the past few years. It is fun. Plenty of options in the city. Looks like 600 for some reasonable quality. But a bit to much entitlement nowadays. A few years ago never got stood up. Now more common.

Can be fun though if you get an amateur.