Saigon princess st marys sophia Jessica

[Rodman]

Hey guys I’m heading out west this week and looking at calling into Saigon princess
Anyone seen Jessica or Sophia since they have returned
I know Jessica’s service has always been good
But is sophia worth the visit these days ?

[mn69]

Saw Jessica few months ago before she went away. She was still good when I last saw her. But I noticed recently alot of girls at SP now doing CBJ so not sure if she still does bbbj.

Never seen Sophia. Saw Melissa recently few days ago, she was okay, only does CBJ, but had more of a Western attitude rather than the nice Viet/Asian service I'm used to and prefer (maybe been living in Australia longer so more Westernised). Will have to do AR soon.

[jaquedm1307]

Likewise saw Jessica just before she went away and she said she has started only doing CBJ where she had previously always done BBBJ - planning to see her again next week so will post update if none
Haven't seen Sophia so can't comment

[mn69]

Thats not good. They going to lose alot of loyal customers if they go the CBJ route. Esp with the extra's they charge for part 2.

But keep us updated @ jaquem1307

[Mrmax]

Hey Rodman, I have seen both very recently. Sophia more the grunge looking with lip piercing and a few tattoos I find her very sexy but have only received a nude hand job was willing to pay more for cbj and daty but not on the table for me. But I think that's why I keep going back hoping for more. Lovely girl sexy body with full bush which is rare these days but I like her.

Jessica is now enhanced with a beautiful set of B cup breast which she is very proud of and has given her more confidence I think she now has the perfect body for me anyway. Same great service as always but only cbj for me I do miss her bbbj but still great value and beautiful looking girl.

Both girls are great can't go wrong enjoy.

[mn69]

Thanks for Intel Mrmax
Total damage for an hr with part 2 will be like $170 now though. Is it still worth with just NHJ/CBJ?
When u can get FS/BBBJ at the city Shops like Ginza with 18-25 year old girls for same price

[jaquedm1307]

Hey Rodman, I have seen both very recently. Sophia more the grunge looking with lip piercing and a few tattoos I find her very sexy but have only received a nude hand job was willing to pay more for cbj and daty but not on the table for me. But I think that's why I keep going back hoping for more. Lovely girl sexy body with full bush which is rare these days but I like her.

Jessica is now enhanced with a beautiful set of B cup breast which she is very proud of and has given her more confidence I think she now has the perfect body for me anyway. Same great service as always but only cbj for me I do miss her bbbj but still great value and beautiful looking girl.

Both girls are great can't go wrong enjoy.

Having said I haven't seen Sophia I booked her until she said she didn't do any form of BJ so amicably decided to switch and sadly had a train wreck with Sunny - my first and only bad experience with SP in 20+ visits so can't really complain

[jaquedm1307]

Thats not good. They going to lose alot of loyal customers if they go the CBJ route. Esp with the extra's they charge for part 2.

But keep us updated @ jaquem1307

Guess you've got an answer though I will post afterwards but can confirm Sienna & Sunny do BBBJ as of a month or so ago

Oh and of course there's the incredible Natalie - but that's an experience all in itself ��

[RO1312]

What did you think of her body?

[RO1312]

Saw Jessica few months ago before she went away. She was still good when I last saw her. But I noticed recently alot of girls at SP now doing CBJ so not sure if she still does bbbj.

Never seen Sophia. Saw Melissa recently few days ago, she was okay, only does CBJ, but had more of a Western attitude rather than the nice Viet/Asian service I'm used to and prefer (maybe been living in Australia longer so more Westernised). Will have to do AR soon.

What did you think or Melissa? Part 1 was very average for me, maybe I just had high hopes. I was out of there in 20 in a 30 min booking.

[Rodman]

Saw Jessica few months ago before she went away. She was still good when I last saw her. But I noticed recently alot of girls at SP now doing CBJ so not sure if she still does bbbj.

Never seen Sophia. Saw Melissa recently few days ago, she was okay, only does CBJ, but had more of a Western attitude rather than the nice Viet/Asian service I'm used to and prefer (maybe been living in Australia longer so more Westernised). Will have to do AR soon.


Hey guys I’m heading out west this week and looking at calling into Saigon princess
Anyone seen Jessica or Sophia since they have returned
I know Jessica’s service has always been good
But is sophia worth the visit these days ?


What did you think or Melissa? Part 1 was very average for me, maybe I just had high hopes. I was out of there in 20 in a 30 min booking.

I saw Mellisa a while ago and I have to say biggest regret
I found her to a dud and very boring

[Rodman]

Saw Jessica few months ago before she went away. She was still good when I last saw her. But I noticed recently alot of girls at SP now doing CBJ so not sure if she still does bbbj.

Never seen Sophia. Saw Melissa recently few days ago, she was okay, only does CBJ, but had more of a Western attitude rather than the nice Viet/Asian service I'm used to and prefer (maybe been living in Australia longer so more Westernised). Will have to do AR soon.


Hey guys I’m heading out west this week and looking at calling into Saigon princess
Anyone seen Jessica or Sophia since they have returned
I know Jessica’s service has always been good
But is sophia worth the visit these days ?


Hey Rodman, I have seen both very recently. Sophia more the grunge looking with lip piercing and a few tattoos I find her very sexy but have only received a nude hand job was willing to pay more for cbj and daty but not on the table for me. But I think that's why I keep going back hoping for more. Lovely girl sexy body with full bush which is rare these days but I like her.

Jessica is now enhanced with a beautiful set of B cup breast which she is very proud of and has given her more confidence I think she now has the perfect body for me anyway. Same great service as always but only cbj for me I do miss her bbbj but still great value and beautiful looking girl.

Both girls are great can't go wrong enjoy.
Thanks mate I might try a double if they are both working together

[mn69]

What did you think or Melissa? Part 1 was very average for me, maybe I just had high hopes. I was out of there in 20 in a 30 min booking.

TBH, Melissa was average at best. Like I said, more Western attitude, very robotic. She does have big jugs if u into that. Maybe I just didnt vibe with her. Not very GFE/warm like Jessica if thats what you're after. Very firm on what she provides, she doesnt do this or that. Just wants to finish u ASAP, CBJ only, wants a tip then next customer type atttitude

[Mike_23]

mElissa is 10/10 in looks and body.
1/10 in service.
lazy.

[RO1312]

TBH, Melissa was average at best. Like I said, more Western attitude, very robotic. She does have big jugs if u into that. Maybe I just didnt vibe with her. Not very GFE/warm like Jessica if thats what you're after. Very firm on what she provides, she doesnt do this or that. Just wants to finish u ASAP, CBJ only, wants a tip then next customer type atttitude

Yeah now that I think about it your right. Maybe I just had high expectations because of her look.

[mn69]

Yeah now that I think about it your right. Maybe I just had high expectations because of her look.

Looks mean nothing if the service is shit though. No point if she cant do this, cant touch this or that blah blah blah

[Themysterypi]

This place is way overpriced I reckon. The prices for the lack of service and connection is disappointing.

[mn69]

This place is way overpriced I reckon. The prices for the lack of service and connection is disappointing.

Yeh they went from $60 to $70 an hour. And alot of girls now do CBJ rather than BBBJ which was standard before if u opt for extras. So increase in price but decrease in service. (U gotta tip for the extras btw)

And you're right, alot of the girls robotic & dont make any attempt at making any connection with u, making u feel comfortable, non GFE ....

[littlegougou]

Does anyone know where Julie has gone to?

[Billysmith69]

Does anyone think Jessica looks a bit like Lucy Thai?

[puma_lx]

Can anyone let me know where is Selena now? Been looking for her around.

[Rustyman1980]

Melissa is ok imo, she just thinks she's Super hot, which she is but instead of resisting and getting pissed off just have fun, tease and play some mind games, trust me she'll make the punt worth it


mElissa is 10/10 in looks and body.
1/10 in service.
lazy.

[Aussieguyinsf]

Avoid this empire of shops. Will lie to get you through the door.

[jaquedm1307]

I've been to SP 50 + times over the last 3 years and never been lied to - had a couple of dud sessions but on the whole good positive experiences

[Timeis629]

I've been to SP 50 + times over the last 3 years and never been lied to - had a couple of dud sessions but on the whole good positive experiences

Agreed - though in my experience that was until about 12 months ago when the exodus took place. I don’t have any experience with the new “crop” and probably won’t - I guess it is a question of some TOFFT and reporting as it is - would be a pity to see it all fall apart - I did about 30 or so punts at SP and never disappointed.?

[c1teh9]

Had a great session with Sunny today at the North Strathfield shop. Very sweet girl. DFK, BBBJ, DATY, great pussy slide and nice long HJ to finish

[Aussieguyinsf]

Nah, was advised by two of their shops that Cherry was a ladyboy with a penis. Bullshit to get you through the door. AVOID Saigon Princess. Plenty of honest shops out there.

http://www.aus99forum.com/showthread.php?113142-Cherry&p=2995874#post2995874

Call them up and ask them if they have a ladyboy. Bet you they will volunteer Cherry. Boycott this shit shop.

[jaquedm1307]

Nah, was advised by two of their shops that Cherry was a ladyboy with a penis. Bullshit to get you through the door. AVOID Saigon Princess. Plenty of honest shops out there.

http://www.aus99forum.com/showthread.php?113142-Cherry&p=2995874#post2995874

Call them up and ask them if they have a ladyboy. Bet you they will volunteer Cherry. Boycott this shit shop.


Sorry to hear this happened for you but I'll make my own decision based off my own experience .

[Aussieguyinsf]

Sorry to hear this happened for you but I'll make my own decision based off my own experience .

Absolutely you should do that. As much as I praise the good shops I just want to warn others of what I consider based on my own experiences of the bad. Saigon Princess is bad.

[jaquedm1307]

Absolutely you should do that. As much as I praise the good shops I just want to warn others of what I consider based on my own experiences of the bad. Saigon Princess is bad.

You appear to have had one bad experience with Saigon Princess and fair enough you want to call that out. I just disagree people advocating others to avoid or boycott as there are girls working there trying to earn a living that have absolutely nothing to do with your bad experience.

I'm all for laying the facts down and totally respect you feeling aggrieved but then leaving others to make their choice without encouraging actions which impact innocent parties

[Aussieguyinsf]

You appear to have had one bad experience with Saigon Princess and fair enough you want to call that out. I just disagree people advocating others to avoid or boycott as there are girls working there trying to earn a living that have absolutely nothing to do with your bad experience.

I'm all for laying the facts down but then leaving others to make their choice without encouraging actions which impact innocent parties

Ok let me soften my caution after wasting a couple of hundred dollars and say don’t boycott the shop but read the multiple bad reviews, ask yourself why the shop owner never responds, call the shop with a specific request and see if they ever say no, then enter at own risk and don’t bitch later.

[jaquedm1307]

Ok let me soften my caution after wasting a couple of hundred dollars and say don’t boycott the shop but read the multiple bad reviews, ask yourself why the shop owner never responds, call the shop with a specific request and see if they ever say no, then enter at own risk and don’t bitch later.

🙏 just sent a PM

[Aussieguyinsf]

�� just sent a PM

Thanks and no disrespect. I just felt absolute contempt from this shop. Stupid white guy who does not know better. Fuck you Saigon Princess.

[jaquedm1307]

Thanks and no disrespect. I just felt absolute contempt from this shop. Stupid white guy who does not know better. Fuck you Saigon Princess.

Appreciate your frustration and you need somewhere to vent - 🙏

[Rustyman1980]

Thanks and no disrespect. I just felt absolute contempt from this shop. Stupid white guy who does not know better. Fuck you Saigon Princess.

Mate best revenge is to slay these hoe's. I spent a bit of time outside of the shop with one of the girls Caro who went back to Vietnam.

I liked her, I don't mind saying because she's left the shop and left Australia, but I fucked her at the shop a couple of times, then got her number and we started texting until eventually she came over and stayed at my place a few nights, I took some Cialis and fucked her for 4 hours one night, she was walking like a cowgirl the next morning.

I thought ok maybe a semi kind of relationship with a ML but I saw on her phone she was texting other punters to.

One dumb ass gave her $20,000 and she said they'd open a massage shop together and go to Vietnam together etc.

It's then I realised you can not trust these hoes, they are gold digger money hungry that's it.

We came to agreement we were just fucking send having fun and in have her advice helped out s bit let her sleep over when she worked at Waterloo.

We got drunk one night and she opened up about all the tricks the girls use.

Hi darling, you're so handsome, etc all lies. She said truth is all the girls work there despise punters and think we're pervert losers who they just want our money. It's the truth.

The girls supposed to rotate between punters in the shop that's why if you make a booking and they say the girl is busy she's just hiding in the room, that's why they call out in Vietnamese.

A trick is there's a free conversation interpreting app turn it on before you go in the shop to get an idea of what they are saying behind your back.

I understand your frustrations, play the game mate and don't take any shit from these girls, find the ones you like to give good service and fuck their face cum in their mouths and pay the tip, play their game and leave with a smile on your face, they think they're better than us but seriously they suck 50! different guys dicks for a living their families would be embarrassed and most those girls have kids too

Imagine those poor kids finding out their mum let's random guys cum in their mouths for $70 to $100

I've spent more on a tinder date and wasn't guaranteed a cum in mouth blow job .

So aussieguy, fuck them cum in them and walk away happy dont take it personally just play to win, I hope this helps.

These are the best girls who give amazing BBBJ and cum n in mouth

1. Jasmine, incredible soft mouth and let you do almost anything you want

2. Kimmy have a bit of banter with her flirt and she's a cock gobbler

3. Sunny older milf Evo thinks she's hot, she's ok for her age but sucks cock like a porn star

4. Carol is Raunchy as girl who will let you do anything you want if you have the cash

5. Olivia, Young enthusiastic and still a bit green

She says Jesse knows which girls fuck at the shop, Carol, Jessica, Miranda, Sunny, Lena, etc and Jesse ought cares the girls use rooms and not take customer away from shop.

[RO1312]

Mate best revenge is to slay these hoe's. I spent a bit of time outside of the shop with one of the girls Caro who went back to Vietnam.

I liked her, I don't mind saying because she's left the shop and left Australia, but I fucked her at the shop a couple of times, then got her number and we started texting until eventually she came over and stayed at my place a few nights, I took some Cialis and fucked her for 4 hours one night, she was walking like a cowgirl the next morning.

I thought ok maybe a semi kind of relationship with a ML but I saw on her phone she was texting other punters to.

One dumb ass gave her $20,000 and she said they'd open a massage shop together and go to Vietnam together etc.

It's then I realised you can not trust these hoes, they are gold digger money hungry that's it.

We came to agreement we were just fucking send having fun and in have her advice helped out s bit let her sleep over when she worked at Waterloo.

We got drunk one night and she opened up about all the tricks the girls use.

Hi darling, you're so handsome, etc all lies. She said truth is all the girls work there despise punters and think we're pervert losers who they just want our money. It's the truth.

The girls supposed to rotate between punters in the shop that's why if you make a booking and they say the girl is busy she's just hiding in the room, that's why they call out in Vietnamese.

A trick is there's a free conversation interpreting app turn it on before you go in the shop to get an idea of what they are saying behind your back.

I understand your frustrations, play the game mate and don't take any shit from these girls, find the ones you like to give good service and fuck their face cum in their mouths and pay the tip, play their game and leave with a smile on your face, they think they're better than us but seriously they suck 50! different guys dicks for a living their families would be embarrassed and most those girls have kids too

Imagine those poor kids finding out their mum let's random guys cum in their mouths for $70 to $100

I've spent more on a tinder date and wasn't guaranteed a cum in mouth blow job .

So aussieguy, fuck them cum in them and walk away happy dont take it personally just play to win, I hope this helps.

These are the best girls who give amazing BBBJ and cum n in mouth

1. Jasmine, incredible soft mouth and let you do almost anything you want

2. Kimmy have a bit of banter with her flirt and she's a cock gobbler

3. Sunny older milf Evo thinks she's hot, she's ok for her age but sucks cock like a porn star

4. Raunchy as girl who will let you do anything you want if you have the cash

5. Olivia, Young enthusiastic and still a bit green

She says Jesse knows which girls fuck at the shop, Carol, Jessica, Miranda, Sunny, Lena, etc and Jesse ought cares the girls use rooms and not take customer away from shop.


A heap of good information but probably airing to much dirty laundry on here… just my oppinion

[Rodman]

Any current intel on Sophia
She has worked there for a few years and was only offering stand nude HJ in the past
Has she uped her service offering to compete with the other girls
When I visited St marys shop a while ago to see the famous Natalie
Sophia was there and she looked hot

[Rustyman1980]

I've never tried Sofia, one of the SP girls said all the a Thai girls offer FS, I've had FS from 2 Thai girls there , ones left now but never Sophia but I heard it's possible just no proof at my end sorry mate

[Rustyman1980]

Probably but you know what.

No lies, Cara showed me the private chat that SP girls have on punters , the have pictures taken from Shop security cameras and gossip about punters , slagging us off telling jokes, saying this guy is big tipper, this one likes his balls sucked, the guys rude avoid him and make the Aussie girls service him.

They treat the non Viet girls bad and if the viet girls don't want to see punter even if you've booked, they hide in the room and say busy and make one of the non Viet or older ladies service customer

That's why you hear a few complaints about SP not honour booking this is why, the girl hiding in a room or sometimes is legit busy

Dude they're bad. Do not tell them anything personal they share it and gossip. Cara said they're laugh about one indian customer who had a skin condition like eczema or something and he uses a dildo or rubber extension over his cock because he's embarrassed and the girls all laughed about him behind his back even though he goes there weekly

Poor dude thinks they like him, cara and canny both told me about him and got much money that true off him, he's got no confidence so they open his wallet and take all the money in it.

Im wide awake now to the whole fake hi honey you're so good etc so I just play along, pay shop fee agree on extras and cum in their mouths or in them. It's just a simple transaction that's it


A heap of good information but probably airing to much dirty laundry on here… just my oppinion

[Rodman]

Probably but you know what.

No lies, Cara showed me the private chat that SP girls have on punters , the have pictures taken from Shop security cameras and gossip about punters , slagging us off telling jokes, saying this guy is big tipper, this one likes his balls sucked, the guys rude avoid him and make the Aussie girls service him.

They treat the non Viet girls bad and if the viet girls don't want to see punter even if you've booked, they hide in the room and say busy and make one of the non Viet or older ladies service customer

That's why you hear a few complaints about SP not honour booking this is why, the girl hiding in a room or sometimes is legit busy

Dude they're bad. Do not tell them anything personal they share it and gossip. Cara said they're laugh about one indian customer who had a skin condition like eczema or something and he uses a dildo or rubber extension over his cock because he's embarrassed and the girls all laughed about him behind his back even though he goes there weekly

Poor dude thinks they like him, cara and canny both told me about him and got much money that true off him, he's got no confidence so they open his wallet and take all the money in it.

Im wide awake now to the whole fake hi honey you're so good etc so I just play along, pay shop fee agree on extras and cum in their mouths or in them. It's just a simple transaction that's it

Oh a mate of mine who visits sp regularly Told me he had seen a cute girl name cara there but didn’t get to check out her service
What does she have on her menu ?

[Johny77]

Probably but you know what.

No lies, Cara showed me the private chat that SP girls have on punters , the have pictures taken from Shop security cameras and gossip about punters , slagging us off telling jokes, saying this guy is big tipper, this one likes his balls sucked, the guys rude avoid him and make the Aussie girls service him.

They treat the non Viet girls bad and if the viet girls don't want to see punter even if you've booked, they hide in the room and say busy and make one of the non Viet or older ladies service customer

That's why you hear a few complaints about SP not honour booking this is why, the girl hiding in a room or sometimes is legit busy

Dude they're bad. Do not tell them anything personal they share it and gossip. Cara said they're laugh about one indian customer who had a skin condition like eczema or something and he uses a dildo or rubber extension over his cock because he's embarrassed and the girls all laughed about him behind his back even though he goes there weekly

Poor dude thinks they like him, cara and canny both told me about him and got much money that true off him, he's got no confidence so they open his wallet and take all the money in it.

Im wide awake now to the whole fake hi honey you're so good etc so I just play along, pay shop fee agree on extras and cum in their mouths or in them. It's just a simple transaction that's it

They take pictures of the security cameras? That is seriously messed up. I wouldn’t mind visiting this place based on your reviews but that does make me think twice.

[Sargon1111]

Which girls here still provide bbbj and cum in mouth?

[17012430]

I’ve been told by a former worker there things that back all this up.

These girls definitely talk and gossip a lot about customers and each other. A lot of them are pretty dumb and only know nails or blowjobs so they’ve got nothing else to talk about.

I have been told my photo was shared around and was known as a big tipper and good customer, as well as other distinguishing features.

They know which girls do BBFS, and if you’ve seen that girl recently they will probably only give you cbj.

One of the girls there is an addict and will tell you anything and let you do anything for the right price.

If you’re a regular, they know you before you meet them.

[Johny77]

I’ve been told by a former worker there things that back all this up.

These girls definitely talk and gossip a lot about customers and each other. A lot of them are pretty dumb and only know nails or blowjobs so they’ve got nothing else to talk about.

I have been told my photo was shared around and was known as a big tipper and good customer, as well as other distinguishing features.

They know which girls do BBFS, and if you’ve seen that girl recently they will probably only give you cbj.

One of the girls there is an addict and will tell you anything and let you do anything for the right price.

If you’re a regular, they know you before you meet them.

Your photo was shared? That is so wrong. Punters deserve and should expect privacy and confidentiality.

[1inchguy]

Sounds like a typical workplace.
It sounds wrong for sure but that's the vietnamese community for you. Don't have to be working in massage shops they gossip regardless. If you're dating a Viet girl, chances are she's gossiping behind your back already..
However sharing photos yeah that's dodgy but In thr end they still suck dick..

[11Bravo]

To quote Capt Renault, I'm shocked, SHOCKED... that the providers share intel on customers. Isn't that unfair? If only there was a place where customers could share intel on providers... Wouldn't that be great?

How old are you people anyway? What's the difference between they sharing intel on us and we on them? Please explain. Neither side wants a bad punt, where the definition of bad depends on which side you're on. We share intel on who provides VFM. They share intel on who's a good customer. Certainly she wants to know how much of a risk factor a customer has, who has an attitude... And just like we can balk when we walk into a shop and see her, why can't she balk when she's seen you (2nd person plural). What's the difference?

Who doesn't want a provider to have other customers? Well, unless she's your mistress, and you're going to support her 100%. I want her to be successful so she'll stick around. She contacts other customers? So what? Now, that being said, when she's with you conducting business that's a no-no, but outside work, why do you care? She has a BUSINESS to run. Should she care if you're contacting other providers...? What's the difference?

Decades ago, in a bar with FL's, I asked a FL how much for LT. She took a step back, looked me in the eyes and said, "Why are you asking? Everyone knows how much you pay, you're Mr. 500." Wow. Did I take offense they all had a name for me. Nope. When she adds me to her contact list, I KNOW what name she'll give me, and the name that I use to refresh her memory, a DESCRIPTIVE name. Works for her, works for me.

What's the difference between RustyHammer's "you can do whatever you want, she's a cock gobbler, she's raunchy", etc., and she sharing "he's a big tipper, he has bad breath, he's a Cheap Charlie, he's abusive", etc. Two sides, same coin.

They take photos from the security cameras? Who do you think they're going to share those with? Their co-workers? So? Civilian friends? Yea, I don't think so. Your family? How? Publicly? Why? Of course, payback is a mother... and I'm not talking about Shaft.

They look down on us? I'm sure on some. In my experience, providers are VERY astute at assessing attitude. In that line of work, they have to be, if nothing else, risk mitigation. My experience, she's a mirror. You look down on her, she's a whore, nothing but an orifice, and that's the attitude that she'll reflect. If you treat her as a person, that's the attitude she'll reflect. Anyone who's worked customer service knows it's a better time with a nice customer rather than one with attitude. I don't expect any freebies... Just like I don't give freebies... It's BUSINESS.

IMO, I'd think the only punters dismayed on the providers sharing intel are the ones who have something to worry about. NEVER bothered me. I'm happy they share intel, makes my punting easier. I appreciate the "she's just a money grubbing whore" attitude punters because it just raises me in her eyes when I show up. I know I've had some great times, great memories, just by having a good attitude. NOT because I pay more, I'm strictly standard rates. Just on attitude. Now, if you're a "one and done", no problem as you won't see HER again. But you just might see someone else in the shop, and so, even then, it can matter.

And as to money grubbing? Think everyone can agree it's not a nice job, one you could be proud of in front of your parents, your kids. But where they come from, there's no CentreLink. So ask yourself, if you were down on your luck, no opportunities in your home country, do you have the strength to be an expat and take a shit job in a foreign country with a foreign language to be able to support your family? Or would you be sitting on the curb, crying, asking where the welfare office is and how much they can give you. If you think it's no big deal, there's great jobs in the Middle East, oil, security... Your trailer will be rent free, air-conditioned, free cafeteria, plenty of sun and blue sky...

[Johny77]

To quote Capt Renault, I'm shocked, SHOCKED... that the providers share intel on customers. Isn't that unfair? If only there was a place where customers could share intel on providers... Wouldn't that be great?

How old are you people anyway? What's the difference between they sharing intel on us and we on them? Please explain. Neither side wants a bad punt, where the definition of bad depends on which side you're on. We share intel on who provides VFM. They share intel on who's a good customer. Certainly she wants to know how much of a risk factor a customer has, who has an attitude... And just like we can balk when we walk into a shop and see her, why can't she balk when she's see you (2nd person plural). What's the difference?

Who doesn't want a provider to have other customers? Well, unless she's your mistress, and you're going to support her 100%. I want her to be successful so she'll stick around. She contacts other customers? So what? Now, that being said, when she's with you conducting business that's a no-no, but outside work, why do you care? She has a BUSINESS to run. Should she care if you're contacting other providers...? What's the difference?

Decades ago, in a bar with FL's, I asked a FL how much for LT. She took a step back, looked me in the eyes and said, "Why are you asking? Everyone knows how much you pay, you're Mr. 500." Wow. Did I take offense they all had a name for me. Nope. When she adds me to her contact list, I KNOW what name she'll give me, and the name that I use to refresh her memory, a DESCRIPTIVE name. Works for her, works for me.

What's the difference between RustyHammer's "you can do whatever you want, she's a cock gobbler, she's raunchy", etc., and she sharing "he's a big tipper, he has bad breath, he's a Cheap Charlie, he's abusive", etc. Two sides, same coin.

They take photos from the security cameras? Who do you think they're going to share those with? Their co-workers? So? Civilian friends? Yea, I don't think so. Your family? How? Publicly? Why? Of course, payback is a mother... and I'm not talking about Shaft.

They look down on us? I'm sure on some. In my experience, providers are VERY astute at assessing attitude. In that line of work, they have to be, if nothing else, risk mitigation. My experience, she's a mirror. You look down on her, she's a whore, nothing but an orifice, and that's the attitude that she'll reflect. If you treat her as a person, that's the attitude she'll reflect. Anyone who's worked customer service knows it's a better time with a nice customer rather than one with attitude. I don't expect any freebies... Just like I don't give freebies... It's BUSINESS.

IMO, I'd think the only punters dismayed on the providers sharing intel are the ones who have something to worry about. NEVER bothered me. I'm happy they share intel, makes my punting easier. I appreciate the "she's just a money grubbing whore" attitude punters because it just raises me in her eyes when I show up. I know I've had some great times, great memories, just by having a good attitude. NOT because I pay more, I'm strictly standard rates. Just on attitude. Now, if you're a "one and done", no problem as you won't see HER again. But you just might see someone else in the shop, and so, even then, it can matter.

And as to money grubbing? Think everyone can agree it's not a nice job, one you could be proud of in front of your parents, your kids. But where they come from, there's no CentreLink. So ask yourself, if you were down on your luck, no opportunities in your home country, do you have the strength to be an expat and take a shit job in a foreign country with a foreign language to be able to support your family? Or would you be sitting on the curb, crying, asking where the welfare office is and how much they can give you. If you think it's no big deal, there's great jobs in the Middle East, oil, security... Your trailer will be rent free, air-conditioned, free cafeteria, plenty of sun and blue sky...

Agree with your post Bravo…all but one thing. Taking photos of punters via the security camera is not on, irrespective of whom they share it with. As for intel on punters, you would think that is part and parcel of the job. Why wouldn’t they talk about punters/customers. No different to any other industry.

[11Bravo]

Agree with your post Bravo…all but one thing. Taking photos of punters via the security camera is not on, irrespective of whom they share it with. As for intel on punters, you would think that is part and parcel of the job. Why wouldn’t they talk about punters/customers. No different to any other industry.It's not a perfect world, not for punters, not for providers. Now if a punter wants to provide intel on a provider, there's the shop name, the nationality, and the name (bogus, but it is identifiable at the shop). As in "SP, Vietnamese, avoid BoDoi, she'll stab you in the back". What does she have? A name? No doubt bogus, and easily changed. "Avoid Aussie 'John", he's a Cheap Charlie". OK, the mobile number that made the booking. That works. But rather cumbersome, and will the receptionist or manager really check to see if the number is on a providers' "avoid" list? Will a provider recognize the number? And will the shop take the provider's word for it? After all, the shop's made their coin. WeChat account? Same as mobile number. So, the description. Now for myself, that would be fairly easy, I don't exactly blend in. "That Hugh Grant, he pays only the standard rate, but has a good heart". But, there might be a few others who could be mistaken for Hugh, and I'd hate to be mistakenly grouped in with a "Avoid Hugh, he's got a BAD attitude". And for you (2nd person plural) with "bland" features, a verbal description gets more difficult. Seems the easy road, for them at least, is a photo.

Yes, there's a large downside for us, maybe. But anyone at the shop, provider, receptionist, janitor could take a photo for nefarious purposes. Doubt that the monitor is in a secure area monitored by security staff. But hey, you know me, I'm ALWAYS such a positive, helpful Kumbaya type of person, my take is there's also a small upside. They will know that I'm a good customer. Certainly has worked for me in other climes - the first-time-for-me FL who was hesitant to go with me as I was an unknown-to-her. A simple reference from another FL worked. (Of course it can work against you, as in the scammer who insisted I pay before (danger Will Robinson) then turned LT to ST, THEN told her gf that I'd pay that rate for ST, who was then insulted when I offered her that for LT (follow all that?). Took several "references" to verify my "NO, I DON'T, with the explanation). For them, there's a greater upside than downside. If nothing else, security and risk mitigation (what, shocking, all punters are not on the up and up?)

Like I say, in a perfect world, I would condemn it. But in this world...? I can understand their rationale. Besides, I'm more concerned with being seen entering/exiting by a passing big mouth acquaintance/neighbor than having a provider have a photo of me off a security camera. For a number of regulars, I have her WeChat/Line, and she has mine, and I'm too lazy to have nom de guerre accounts. The practicality of that trumps any privacy issues, and I trust them to do the right thing (remember that 'mirror'?). YMMV.

[cherry69]

How's Jessics these days? she still top at SP?

[Saigonprincess]

It's not a perfect world, not for punters, not for providers. Now if a punter wants to provide intel on a provider, there's the shop name, the nationality, and the name (bogus, but it is identifiable at the shop). As in "SP, Vietnamese, avoid BoDoi, she'll stab you in the back". What does she have? A name? No doubt bogus, and easily changed. "Avoid Aussie 'John", he's a Cheap Charlie". OK, the mobile number that made the booking. That works. But rather cumbersome, and will the receptionist or manager really check to see if the number is on a providers' "avoid" list? Will a provider recognize the number? And will the shop take the provider's word for it? After all, the shop's made their coin. WeChat account? Same as mobile number. So, the description. Now for myself, that would be fairly easy, I don't exactly blend in. "That Hugh Grant, he pays only the standard rate, but has a good heart". But, there might be a few others who could be mistaken for Hugh, and I'd hate to be mistakenly grouped in with a "Avoid Hugh, he's got a BAD attitude". And for you (2nd person plural) with "bland" features, a verbal description gets more difficult. Seems the easy road, for them at least, is a photo.

Yes, there's a large downside for us, maybe. But anyone at the shop, provider, receptionist, janitor could take a photo for nefarious purposes. Doubt that the monitor is in a secure area monitored by security staff. But hey, you know me, I'm ALWAYS such a positive, helpful Kumbaya type of person, my take is there's also a small upside. They will know that I'm a good customer. Certainly has worked for me in other climes - the first-time-for-me FL who was hesitant to go with me as I was an unknown-to-her. A simple reference from another FL worked. (Of course it can work against you, as in the scammer who insisted I pay before (danger Will Robinson) then turned LT to ST, THEN told her gf that I'd pay that rate for ST, who was then insulted when I offered her that for LT (follow all that?). Took several "references" to verify my "NO, I DON'T, with the explanation). For them, there's a greater upside than downside. If nothing else, security and risk mitigation (what, shocking, all punters are not on the up and up?)

Like I say, in a perfect world, I would condemn it. But in this world...? I can understand their rationale. Besides, I'm more concerned with being seen entering/exiting by a passing big mouth acquaintance/neighbor than having a provider have a photo of me off a security camera. For a number of regulars, I have her WeChat/Line, and she has mine, and I'm too lazy to have nom de guerre accounts. The practicality of that trumps any privacy issues, and I trust them to do the right thing (remember that 'mirror'?). YMMV.

First, I would like to thank my loyal customers that support my businesses. As you should be aware by now, I take strong and firm actions against my staff doing wrong in my rooms. What they do outside the hours of work I can’t control.
I have read all the reviews and I can’t understand that some are trying to hurt my business or help? I have beautiful girls across all my shops, come and enjoy and have fun! I have terminated staff popular or not for breaking my policies. As for the security cameras, only I have access and use when customers rob me or do wrong in my shop which is rare. Any questions please send me a PM, if I think they are worthy of an answer I will reply.
Hope to see you soon, happy punting!

Regards,
Saigon

[asiafever]

It's not a perfect world, not for punters, not for providers. Now if a punter wants to provide intel on a provider, there's the shop name, the nationality, and the name (bogus, but it is identifiable at the shop). As in "SP, Vietnamese, avoid BoDoi, she'll stab you in the back". What does she have? A name? No doubt bogus, and easily changed. "Avoid Aussie 'John", he's a Cheap Charlie". OK, the mobile number that made the booking. That works. But rather cumbersome, and will the receptionist or manager really check to see if the number is on a providers' "avoid" list? Will a provider recognize the number? And will the shop take the provider's word for it? After all, the shop's made their coin. WeChat account? Same as mobile number. So, the description. Now for myself, that would be fairly easy, I don't exactly blend in. "That Hugh Grant, he pays only the standard rate, but has a good heart". But, there might be a few others who could be mistaken for Hugh, and I'd hate to be mistakenly grouped in with a "Avoid Hugh, he's got a BAD attitude". And for you (2nd person plural) with "bland" features, a verbal description gets more difficult. Seems the easy road, for them at least, is a photo.

Yes, there's a large downside for us, maybe. But anyone at the shop, provider, receptionist, janitor could take a photo for nefarious purposes. Doubt that the monitor is in a secure area monitored by security staff. But hey, you know me, I'm ALWAYS such a positive, helpful Kumbaya type of person, my take is there's also a small upside. They will know that I'm a good customer. Certainly has worked for me in other climes - the first-time-for-me FL who was hesitant to go with me as I was an unknown-to-her. A simple reference from another FL worked. (Of course it can work against you, as in the scammer who insisted I pay before (danger Will Robinson) then turned LT to ST, THEN told her gf that I'd pay that rate for ST, who was then insulted when I offered her that for LT (follow all that?). Took several "references" to verify my "NO, I DON'T, with the explanation). For them, there's a greater upside than downside. If nothing else, security and risk mitigation (what, shocking, all punters are not on the up and up?)

Like I say, in a perfect world, I would condemn it. But in this world...? I can understand their rationale. Besides, I'm more concerned with being seen entering/exiting by a passing big mouth acquaintance/neighbor than having a provider have a photo of me off a security camera. For a number of regulars, I have her WeChat/Line, and she has mine, and I'm too lazy to have nom de guerre accounts. The practicality of that trumps any privacy issues, and I trust them to do the right thing (remember that 'mirror'?). YMMV.

Agreed, really don't see the problem. If you haven't done anything to go in the bad books, you have nothing to worry about. On the positive side, if the girls exchange info on what you like, that's a good thing in my book. "Oh that Asiafever guy, he's easy going, likes to tell jokes, takes a while to cum with just a hj or bj but will cum quicker if you dfk or let him daty." Fantastic, spread the word far and wide please!

Thai girls in the industry have a MASSIVE chat group where they discuss punters as well (and shops, owners, exchange shifts and so on), and yes if they have your pic will share it. They'll describe you in detail and throw you straight under the bus if they feel you've done them wrong. Anyone boycotting Thais because of it? At least in this case it's kept just to the same shops. I'd be amazed if they DIDN'T exchange notes on regulars if I'm being completely honest. It happens in every service industry. Your favourite Cafe? Damn right they talk about you if you're a difficult customer. Same at your hairdresser and so on.

I disagree where it was said Jessie doesn't care about girls giving fs, history has shown multiple times, if she finds out about it then pack your bags. It's her name on the lease, so her rules as far as I'm concerned.

Girls in this industry are transient, they come and go constantly, they're here for money. If they choose to take things out of the shop, that's really their own business, nothing to do with a shop. Anyone else remember the "no exchanging phone numbers or meeting outisde" signs in some shops? Yeah that worked well..

But I digress.

Point is, there seems a lot of guys who are pissed their favourite toys were taken from them and are having a bit of a fit about it. If you miss Natalie that much, for example, she is really easy to find, and she's at shops that just don't care she's barebacking all comers. Go for it, no need to hide or speak in code, but Jessie doesn't run her shops like that. I've seen plenty of the ex-SP girls at other venues where their full menus were available, but in Jessie's shops, I play by the rules of the venue.

[11Bravo]

First, I would like to thank my loyal customers that support my businesses. As you should be aware by now, I take strong and firm actions against my staff doing wrong in my rooms. What they do outside the hours of work I can’t control.
I have read all the reviews and I can’t understand that some are trying to hurt my business or help? I have beautiful girls across all my shops, come and enjoy and have fun! I have terminated staff popular or not for breaking my policies. As for the security cameras, only I have access and use when customers rob me or do wrong in my shop which is rare. Any questions please send me a PM, if I think they are worthy of an answer I will reply.
Hope to see you soon, happy punting!

Regards,
SaigonI appreciate the response. I certainly understand the need, unfortunately, for security cameras and have NO reason to doubt they are under your sole access.

I don't doubt that a punter can have a bad experience in a shop/with a girl. Several even, and I appreciate those that write about their experiences, good or bad. And while I rank AR's a bit above shop photos, I understand either can be actual, photoshopped, or totally bogus. Always the YMMV. PERSONALLY, I've only been to an SP shop once, and as I wrote, I had a good time and would have no hesitation in returning.

http://www.aus99forum.com/showthread.php?122888-First-try-at-Saigon-Princess-at-Botany-Road-won%92t-return&p=2946160&viewfull=1#post2946160


Agreed, really don't see the problem. If you haven't done anything to go in the bad books, you have nothing to worry about. On the positive side, if the girls exchange info on what you like, that's a good thing in my book. "Oh that Asiafever guy, he's easy going, likes to tell jokes, takes a while to cum with just a hj or bj but will cum quicker if you dfk or let him daty." Fantastic, spread the word far and wide please!

I'd be amazed if they DIDN'T exchange notes on regulars if I'm being completely honest. It happens in every service industry. Your favourite Cafe? Damn right they talk about you if you're a difficult customer. Same at your hairdresser and so on.
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... but in Jessie's shops, I play by the rules of the venue.Agree.

Doesn't bother me that the providers share intel, they'd be stupid not too, and they're not dumb. Just like why you (2nd person plural) are reading this. In another clime, we'd always be amazed at the intel of the CIA - the Chinese Intelligence Service, so says Mr. 500.

I have no problem staying within a shop's lines. As I said in the AR, it was explained to me, I agreed, and "Bob's your uncle".