Brothel vs Private Price

[vswqq2]

A WL used to be 300/hr in a brothel. Now she's doing private for 450/hr.

Is it normal for private to charge more than the shop? If so what more am I getting from a private that justify the extra cost?

[Sleazypeazy]

they don't do as many clients. So theoretically a better service which is not always the case

[allstarbro]

really depends, if the place is better, if she devotes more than in brothel. but please name her and link so we can explore

[kere]

Yeah, that's normal.

The justification is better service but from all the reviews I've seen, that's not true most of the times. Many punters say they enjoy the novelty of a private but would not return because of the high price and the fact they can get as good - or even better service - at a brothel.

[frisson]

Never paid $450/hour in my life

Unless it included a violinist serenading, 3 course banquet during and complimentary champagne afterwards

Or it's in a hotel room with spa she has organised with a view of Sydney Harbour

Or she brings her similarly attractive friend, then the price is fair

Privates cater to less informed punters, who think that $450/hr is VFM

[aussiegaigin]

A WL used to be 300/hr in a brothel. Now she's doing private for 450/hr.

Is it normal for private to charge more than the shop? If so what more am I getting from a private that justify the extra cost?

It's a free market. Girls can charge what they think they are worth. Some suckers might pay that.

Only you can decide if you are "getting more" and whether it is "worth" it.

[Axeman123]

It's a free market. Girls can charge what they think they are worth. Some suckers might pay that.

Only you can decide if you are "getting more" and whether it is "worth" it. And the Roosters paid Sua'ali'i 800k.

[ColesBag]

Is it normal for private to charge more than the shop? If so what more am I getting from a private that justify the extra cost?

When you're a private you have to absorb a lot more costs yourself which a shop would normally cover for you if you were working there.

[Vincent888]

Advertising, laundry. Anything else?

They generally live where they work?

[blitz]

When you're a private you have to absorb a lot more costs yourself which a shop would normally cover for you if you were working there.
Exactly. Working in a brothel they just show up, do their job and go home.
Working privately means doing your own advertising, bookings, laundry.
They are also taking the risk of inviting punters into their home and knowing where they live. If they don't want that risk then there's the added cost of a hotel room or a dedicated working appartment.
Then factor in no shows. In a shop there's always going to be walk-ins if a booking doesn't show. You don't have that to fall back on when working privately.

[Vincent888]

They can screen clients with a secure door, plus there’s that private WL forum where they store data on clients. Pictures, mobile numbers, their behaviour, if they are a no show, etc etc. just like here but not the AR’s.

[ergoproxy]

After having been to a couple of privates, I’d safely stick to brothels instead as the service aren’t always better.

Funnily enough, there is this massage place in St Leonards that charges $200 for a massage (I think they’ve gone up to $250 now) and charges extra $200 for FS. The girls are all western, and are very primo. I got sucked in once to paying FS with one of the Colombian ML as she was really really hot lol. I still think about going every now and then…

[frisson]

After having been to a couple of privates, I’d safely stick to brothels instead as the service aren’t always better.

Funnily enough, there is this massage place in St Leonards that charges $200 for a massage (I think they’ve gone up to $250 now) and charges extra $200 for FS. The girls are all western, and are very primo. I got sucked in once to paying FS with one of the Colombian ML as she was really really hot lol. I still think about going every now and then…
We all need to practice the ability to walk out if the requested prices is too expensive. Ask to pay what you have the cash for.
More often than not, you can punt, just with reduced extras

[GoldfishMan]

A WL used to be 300/hr in a brothel. Now she's doing private for 450/hr.

Is it normal for private to charge more than the shop? If so what more am I getting from a private that justify the extra cost?

Some guys just cannot handle going to a shop, bro. They can be people with a reputation to protect, like it could affect their livelihood if they were seen going to a brothel. That's one niche customer base for these privates.

The other thing about privates is ex-shop WLs are only a small fraction of the WGs. In fact, people usually avoid going to any that have been called out as an ex-shop girl. Nobody likes to be a sucker, even those who can afford the higher cost.

I personally prefer to go to agency girls. I guess you can call them semi-private because they are part of an organisation, but their setting is the same as a private girl. There's more quality control that way.

I go for these girls not because I hate or avoid going to shops. I simply can find the type of girls at agencies that are extremely rare in shops. I've been going to Ginza forever now, I've only ever met 1 genuine Uni girl who's body and face are unmistakably that of a young 18 - 23 year old (C Chance). Even if they do appear in a shop, they're gone very quickly, probably taken off market by a rich dude because that's a real Gem.

EDIT: I'd add that some girls are "destined" for greater things. Just because they started at a shop doesn't mean they should be judged from that beginning. For example a girl who was one of the best and realised her potential, then went private without ever going back to shops. What are you gonna do, keep on crying about how much cheaper she was in the shops and never see that girl just because of that? If she's good she's good.

[aussiegaigin]

When you're a private you have to absorb a lot more costs yourself which a shop would normally cover for you if you were working there.

A $300 visit to a brothel will probably be worth $150-200 to the girl. A private girl WFH would be paying household expenses anyway, so her only real overhead might be advertising and maybe "agency" fees. I doubt this would justify the extra costs?

[Ghost2hauntU]

I never understood why a private should cost more than a brothel. If I’m spending 150 bucks an hour for FS in a house that’s for overheads and charged the ladies rent, then I figure a similar service in private should cost no more than a hundred.

[Vincent888]

Supply and demand for a particular area or service. I don’t understand why a brothel has a variation in the prices they charge for different girls.

[T1ooo]

Yes they often charge more in general generally I find coz they can and do it to earn more.

One that was coming to see me via agency was 250-400 via them. She would get half. Once she left I contacted her to see me privately , she quoted me $600. Like a good 2-4x more. Needles to say I didn’t reply back. Just sheer greed on their part imo. But it’s their body to sell I guess.

[T1ooo]

Having said that. One time during Covid I found a cute Japanese girl working in the next building to my apartment building. It was $150 great service- I would go over daily or every second day as you can imagine. After the third time I started hitting it raw and blowing inside her. This went on for a good month. Pretty good value. Sometimes u find this. Sadly I was so spoiled I had another super hot Asian thight as fuck that let me hit it raw. Well she put it in first go. Right as hell. Hairy busy and big thigh gap. So I was spiked for choice not bad for $250 the hour outcall to my place. I didn’t cip although I could have just was sacred in case it got her pregas and she didn’t offer or do kissing and we never talked about or bbbj. So it can be good u just have to keep trying it is getting heaps harder with silly prices but.

[frisson]

Having said that. One time during Covid I found a cute Japanese girl working in the next building to my apartment building. It was $150 great service- I would go over daily or every second day as you can imagine. After the third time I started hitting it raw and blowing inside her. This went on for a good month. Pretty good value. Sometimes u find this. Sadly I was so spoiled I had another super hot Asian thight as fuck that let me hit it raw. Well she put it in first go. Right as hell. Hairy busy and big thigh gap. So I was spiked for choice not bad for $250 the hour outcall to my place. I didn’t cip although I could have just was sacred in case it got her pregas and she didn’t offer or do kissing and we never talked about or bbbj. So it can be good u just have to keep trying it is getting heaps harder with silly prices but.
The value is out there. Don't listen to anyone telling you privates charging more than $350 is good value. That's a joke

[limbi8888]

TBH privates should be less, one they don't have to share the fee/commission with the shop, they usually get paid in cash so not likely to declare the tax.
The only time i can see its more expensive is if they need to hire a place to see you.

[T1ooo]

They just copy what they see.

It’s up to us the punters to vote with our wallets and I have been. Cut back big big time. Just not worth it who can afford $800-2000 a few times a month ??

I’d rather $150-250 a few times a week.

[Vincent888]

I think security is the biggest concern with privates. Have the laws changed? It used to be two could operate from a unit if they lived there.

That being the case they split their overheads in half.

[T1ooo]

Imo I think most are working without security just to make more $$

[blitz]

TBH privates should be less, one they don't have to share the fee/commission with the shop, they usually get paid in cash so not likely to declare the tax.
The only time i can see its more expensive is if they need to hire a place to see you.
Ridiculous theory

[Vincent888]

How would say two girls set up a private business?

Rent a live in min two bedroom apartment.
With video intercom.
Secure front entry.
List their services online.
Screen the txts of punters.
Have mobile eftpos.
Maybe a BF provides security.

Have I left anything out?

[blitz]

How would say two girls set up a private business?

Rent a live in min two bedroom apartment.
With video intercom.
Secure front entry.
List their services online.
Screen the txts of punters.
Have mobile eftpos.
Maybe a BF provides security.

Have I left anything out?
They won't live and work in the same apartment. They still want a private life and they don't want random dickhead punters showing up at their home when they have friends or family about.
Also no mobile EFTPOS. They want to avoid the tax department so no trace of any transactions. Strictly cash only.

[Vincent888]

I know high class escorts that work from home. So why wouldn’t others?

As regards payment it’s a business and as such a business can borrow if it’s got figures to justify the loan. Buy that Mercedes etc.

Hiding money is only for smaller operators.

[ColesBag]

TBH privates should be less, one they don't have to share the fee/commission with the shop, they usually get paid in cash so not likely to declare the tax.
The only time i can see its more expensive is if they need to hire a place to see you.

Shops have a myriad of expenses that a private has to absorb & take on herself. Privates have to be more expensive.

[Vincent888]

Insurance. What would happen if a punter did an injury to himself? Say he had a slippage… in the shower for example?

[T1ooo]

I’d say most girls aren’t disclosing shit to ATO and are working on the black.
Their biggest expense is their 2-5k a week drug habit I’d say

[Vincent888]

Shops have a myriad of expenses that a private has to absorb & take on herself. Privates have to be more expensive.

There’s an economy of scale. A brothel has to run a minimum number of rooms to support staff and the owner and have a steady supply of girls.

A private situation is up to two girls. Less rooms. Less overheads.

[Veets]

Privates were my go too
That was until their price became ridiculous plus all the extras which many used to complimentary.
With all the privates now appearing more regularly in brothels lately for a more affordable option makes me wonder if many people like myself are not buying into the over priced private experience no more resulting in a loss of clients?
Keep ignoring the overpriced hookers boys

[T1ooo]

Privates were my go too
That was until their price became ridiculous plus all the extras which many used to complimentary.
With all the privates now appearing more regularly in brothels lately for a more affordable option makes me wonder if many people like myself are not buying into the over priced private experience no more resulting in a loss of clients?
Keep ignoring the overpriced hookers boys

Yeah mate. That’s why a lot come in so high or have worked at an established and hear friends brag. They try it themselves and realise it’s not the truth and either go back or leave the industry.

Generally u. Need to have a few regulars before trying it and keeping ur prices super high isnt sustainable as there’s only so many suckers with money and rarely results in repeat business. Most girls just want quick cash as this is not a long term plan ect.

[bummer]

The biggest problem for a private is the premises. not so much the cost, but finding something suitable.

It makes no difference if they intend to live in it as well, but generally there is a shortage of available premises.
That aside, a private can make a suitable living plus considering that they effectively do not have to split with the shop and then have somewhere to live.
Heaps of privates are live in and heaps more just doing it on the side maybe one or two a day max.

Of course a good operator can get regulars which reduces the need for advertising and the risks of new unknown customers.

Oh, it also helps if they have some quirk or specialty which sets them apart if they are solo.

[frisson]

With Sydney rents going up year by year, noone is prepared to state that privates will become even more expensive over time. Definitely much for expensive than brothel WL for the same service. What's the point?

Visit the good brothels and avoid the headaches of going private
Basic economics

I need a very good reason to be charged above market rates for a punt. The WL would need to offer a spectacular service - hardly likely

[l337dude]

I had a preference for privates but since the price of most decent WLs have gone up crazy it's not worthwhile anymore...to me.

Occasionally I'll go for a low-mid end private but most days it's brothels now.

[danaussieguy]

A WL used to be 300/hr in a brothel. Now she's doing private for 450/hr.

Is it normal for private shops to charge more than the shop? If so, what more am I getting from a private that justifies the extra cost?



Well, it really depends. In general, you could be getting more privacy (as opposed to a brothel), more attention, and fewer other customers in the room. However, since this is an individual decision by each WL, you'll need to do your research and make sure that what you're paying for is worth it!

[frisson]

Don't assume the drug habit for many WLs. Many are purchasing luxury items (such as designer watches, fashion, hangbags or jewellery) for themselves while others are saving money to purchase real estate or help their families back home. There are many busy WLs earning $1,000 to $2,000 per day. Some guys here will question this but WLs have stated what they and their work friends are earning per day and it's all tax free!

Do you ever use privates cuteguy? Do the majority of privates (not the ultra high end) commonly make the money you refer to, or were you referring to brothel WLs?

[madness123]

When you're a private you have to absorb a lot more costs yourself which a shop would normally cover for you if you were working there.

Its the other way around. No boss to take half or more. Risk is greater but so is the return

[Vincent888]

You either work for someone or you work for yourself.I try and tell people to be self employed but it’s a step a lot are not confident in taking.