those assholes that wreck it for everyone

[jfoldbar]

i just finished the deed with a regular at ginza,and we got talking.
cant remember how but the subject got onto sex safety and she told me about an AH customer that she had to ban

apparently this guy ripped the dom off while doggy and tried to stick it back in.

AND, if what this WL is true, he has done this to a few of the ginza girls. and the ginza boss wont ban him from the shop.
they know who he is (and based on what she told me about him if i put in the work i could find him, but dont think ill go there).

and to make it even worse, he is a particular profession that should know better (we all know not to do it but his stance is much higher).

hearing stuff like this makes my blood curdle. im wondering if this is the same AH that changed j hibikis stance just a few days ago.?

end of rant

[Meng]

That's fucked. I'm always curious what happens to a WL to make them Asian only so quickly. There's some fucking horrible people.

[EYA06072021]

Such a cunt! Hope all the shops ban him, not just Ginza!

[halfway]

The shop should call the cops and have this bloke charged.

Poor form from the shop owners if it is true.

[limbi8888]

The shop should call the cops and have this bloke charged.

Poor form from the shop owners if it is true.

Totally agree, should be charged, but alot of the shops aren't that clean themselves so they prob don't want the attention.

[4647]

That's fucked. I'm always curious what happens to a WL to make them Asian only so quickly. There's some fucking horrible people.
I don't think race was mentioned but of course it would never be an Asian guy

[GoldfishMan]

Maybe he writes great ARs for them so they don’t ban him.

[cuteguy]

There's legislation against such act. If she mentioned it to management then it should have been passed onto the police. By failing to do it means they don't care about the safety of their girls.

[Wok]

I naively used to think that if you played up in a brothel you’d end up getting flogged by some dude who’s job was to take out the trash.

It would appear that is not the case and only money is all that matters.

[Meng]

I don't think race was mentioned but of course it would never be an Asian guy
It's a common theme. Also it's used as a broad category to exclude Indians, middle eastern and Pakistani men. Easier than writing no indians, Pakistanis, middle eastern etc.

[MatthewSoul]

Isnt this classified as rape?

I mean you should at least ask nicely as that shit would never be free either.

[beta101]

Is he a sandigger?

[GoldfishMan]

Isnt this classified as rape?

I mean you should at least ask nicely as that shit would never be free either.
Yes, it is. It became legislation some time last year I think.

[krnboy]

Definitely is rape. But how it can be proven might be difficult

[MatthewSoul]

Yes, it is. It became legislation some time last year I think.

He should be arrested then :/

Its worse type of virus to spread than covid lol

[GINZA]

Hey. Can u Pm me please. We haven’t heard anything this about this guy yet.
Normally we will call the police straight away if girls tell us. We have a warning wall with photos in the customer waiting room shows police took away customers like that before.
Pm me please. I will get to the bottom of it.

[yellow_sub]

Aren’t these classified as rape? Should report to the police and get this cunt arrested.

[Meng]

Yea this is fucked. Hope Ginza deals with this asshole. OP needs to get in touch.

[OLD SNAKE]

haha a HR problem at a brothel, how exciting
1st off no one is going to call the police because it draws unnecessary attention to the business owners and to the girls from department of home affairs,
if Home Affairs finds any Visa breaches, or any other funny business then people start getting arrested, fined, gaol time or deported for these breaches.
2nd than the taxation department gets involved and starts investigating the business and audits them, than the business could face thousands of dollars in fines
and every cash business has 2 sets of books,
yes all government departments are linked here in NSW so once you are on the investigation roller coaster, its very hard to get off the radar,

just say the business is stupid enough to call the police how are they going to prove it, the Perp is just going to say it slipped off or she gave me consent, so rape is hard to prove because he is in a place where he has payed to provide these services so he has consent, so unless they have cameras in the private rooms recording the girls working, than the business will be breached of the workplace privacy act, and section 91P record an intimate image without consent, and than could face a legal law suit from the plaintive,

now lets say you get so called security throw him out, and there is a physical altercation and its recorded, the business is going to loose in court and than get investigate by all that mentioned above,
so the only real alternative is to just ban the guy.

[MatthewSoul]

haha a HR problem at a brothel, how exciting
1st off no one is going to call the police because it draws unnecessary attention to the business owners and to the girls from department of home affairs,
if Home Affairs finds any Visa breaches, or any other funny business then people start getting arrested, fined, gaol time or deported for these breaches.
2nd than the taxation department gets involved and starts investigating the business and audits them, than the business could face thousands of dollars in fines
and every cash business has 2 sets of books,
yes all government departments are linked here in NSW so once you are on the investigation roller coaster, its very hard to get off the radar,

just say the business is stupid enough to call the police how are they going to prove it, the Perp is just going to say it slipped off or she gave me consent, so rape is hard to prove because he is in a place where he has payed to provide these services so he has consent, so unless they have cameras in the private rooms recording the girls working, than the business will be breached of the workplace privacy act, and section 91P record an intimate image without consent, and than could face a legal law suit from the plaintive,

now lets say you get so called security throw him out, and there is a physical altercation and its recorded, the business is going to loose in court and than get investigate by all that mentioned above,
so the only real alternative is to just ban the guy.

Very true. No point stirring into shit. Maybe they should just do it privately and cut the guys dick off next time they see him lol.

[OLD SNAKE]

Very true. No point stirring into shit. Maybe they should just do it privately and cut the guys dick off next time they see him lol.
than it comes back to drawing unnecessary attention to the business, from the police and if this guy has any underworld connections

[Wok]

than it comes back to drawing unnecessary attention to the business, from the police and if this guy has any underworld connections

I’m guessing old mate from the above tale is a medical professional of some kind (should know better etc), not likely to have underworld connections.
Then you just have to weigh up the probability of them going to the cops, or not, if fearful of their reputation being tarnished with a rape allegation while visiting a brothel.

[OLD SNAKE]

Wok, agree a doctor has a lot to loose, especially if their reputation is tarnish, but you know they would go to greater lengths to protect it,

[Meng]

haha a HR problem at a brothel, how exciting
1st off no one is going to call the police because it draws unnecessary attention to the business owners and to the girls from department of home affairs,
if Home Affairs finds any Visa breaches, or any other funny business then people start getting arrested, fined, gaol time or deported for these breaches.
2nd than the taxation department gets involved and starts investigating the business and audits them, than the business could face thousands of dollars in fines
and every cash business has 2 sets of books,
yes all government departments are linked here in NSW so once you are on the investigation roller coaster, its very hard to get off the radar,

just say the business is stupid enough to call the police how are they going to prove it, the Perp is just going to say it slipped off or she gave me consent, so rape is hard to prove because he is in a place where he has payed to provide these services so he has consent, so unless they have cameras in the private rooms recording the girls working, than the business will be breached of the workplace privacy act, and section 91P record an intimate image without consent, and than could face a legal law suit from the plaintive,

now lets say you get so called security throw him out, and there is a physical altercation and its recorded, the business is going to loose in court and than get investigate by all that mentioned above,
so the only real alternative is to just ban the guy.

Ok so basically the girl is screwed? Are you saying she just has to accept being stealthed.

[OLD SNAKE]

Meng she can always walk out to reception and end the session, she doesn't have to put up with anything,
or she can charge him more money,
what i am saying in the comment, there are consequences when you get authorities involved and most matters are better off dealt with quietly for all involved

[dotcumdotinyou]

From the shop's reply this is the first they've heard of it. Hopefully the OP will PM the shop with all that he knows and help them out.

They're a well run shop and should easily deal with it.

[GoldfishMan]

I kind of agree with old snake on the “predicament” part, maybe not on what can be done about it.
If the girl is here illegally, or if the shop or girl have anything to hide from the authorities, then they probably wouldn’t be willing to do anything that involves the authorities. Especially given that it was a close call instead of him actually successfully doing it.

[OLD SNAKE]

thanks GoldfishMan, its true don't make a big deal out of nothing, it can backfire 10x worse,
take what GlamourPhoto posted what happen in Melbourne, there could of been a number of ways this could of been deescalated but instead it turned out worse than expected,
the shop could of taken precaution by hiring a large male manager with public relation skill, who could of monitor the clients behaviour before he even got to see the girl,

[JohnJones]

Should be titled "Those Assholes that wreck it for non-Asians"

[Candy1234]

Still thinks there’s an asshole in any nationality. Now that I think of it, there was a few sessions I had where the girl kept on reaching to check the dom when we were in doggy, I always thought WTH is wrong here? Now this make sense, maybe they had that shitty thing done to them before.

[beta101]

May be the offender's cop lol damn

[ABG4LYF]

Sadly this affects non asian punters

[fjfan]

than it comes back to drawing unnecessary attention to the business, from the police and if this guy has any underworld connections

I would hazard a guess and say damn near all the RnT joints and brothels have links to criminality in some shape or form so very unlikely they would want the unwanted attention.

[quackm2002]

Come to think of it, I don’t think I have ever seen a girl with “Aussie only” :D


I don't think race was mentioned but of course it would never be an Asian guy

[jfoldbar]

so to update. i have pm'd ginza. and after giving this some thought, i will do whats in the wl best interest. so i going to ask her if she wants to pursue this or not before going any further. if she wants to pursue, i will offer my help. if not, that is her choice.

[1inchguy]

To prevent future stealth, tie up the punters and ride them.
I wouldn't mind experience that heh

[niva321]

This kind of shit is rape, needs to immediately be reported

[GoldfishMan]

To prevent future stealth, tie up the punters and ride them.
I wouldn't mind experience that heh

lol, good idea.
One thing I do is switch from mish to doggy without leaving her pussy. Much easier to do on a skinny girl, one of the reasons I prefer skinny girls. That way she won’t have to worry about a thing.

[jfoldbar]

To prevent future stealth, tie up the punters and ride them.
I wouldn't mind experience that heh

yeah, i agree here. they should be held in some dungeon (im sure ginza has one given the location) and have unwanted objects shoved up them see how they like it.

[4647]

Asian guys stealth too, I know a Chinese girl that was stealthed by a Chinese customer. Not everything has to be a race thing.
Yeah there are a couple of grubs here who every chance they get they throw the race card maybe they are just insecure little boys

[cuteguy]

Yeah there are a couple of grubs here who every chance they get they throw the race card maybe they are just insecure little boys

No need to single out Caucasian or Asian customers or play on the race issue here. It happens on both sides. There are Asian and non Asian guys doing it too. I had Asian girls mention some non Caucasian customers being rude and demanding things that the girls were uncomfortable in doing such as BBFS. Sometimes they throw more money at the girls in the hope they will do it.

[dudelove]

i just finished the deed with a regular at ginza,and we got talking.
cant remember how but the subject got onto sex safety and she told me about an AH customer that she had to ban

apparently this guy ripped the dom off while doggy and tried to stick it back in.

AND, if what this WL is true, he has done this to a few of the ginza girls. and the ginza boss wont ban him from the shop.
they know who he is (and based on what she told me about him if i put in the work i could find him, but dont think ill go there).

and to make it even worse, he is a particular profession that should know better (we all know not to do it but his stance is much higher).

hearing stuff like this makes my blood curdle. im wondering if this is the same AH that changed j hibikis stance just a few days ago.?

end of rant

I actually think the OP is lying. And he has tried to stealth/ or is planning on stealthing a ML/WL and wants to see if guys are outraged about it and also the consequences.

Well let me make it easy for u. That is considered rape and be careful mate

[jfoldbar]

I actually think the OP is lying. And he has tried to stealth/ or is planning on stealthing a ML/WL and wants to see if guys are outraged about it and also the consequences.

Well let me make it easy for u. That is considered rape and be careful mate

you can "think" whatever you want. just like i could "think" whatever i want to . hey i could "think" that it was you, trying to divert the attention away from yourself, by pushing it onto someone else.
truth is this is not a courtroom so none of us can prove anything either way and every side of every story here should always be taken with a grain of salt.

[cuteguy]

Ultimately, shops need to step up and deal with such matters. Whether it be Ginza or any other shop, any stealthing by a customer must be taken seriously and with CCTV footage and customers numbers being recorded when bookings are made then shops must be aware of the culprits if the girls report these incidents.

Stealthing poses a risk to girls and to customers if the culprit has an STI or HIV. It's not all about money and how many guys can be seen by the girls. Some shops should take more interest in the safety of their girls who are working on their premises and to ban bad customers regardless if they spend large amounts of money at the shop.

[Azninvasion85]

To the OP - What's an ah?

[jfoldbar]

What's an ah?
asshole. (and i gotta do more than 15 characters)

[Alex T Bear]

I have a vague recollection of a report of this happening in NZ and the punter was charged with rape. It was made public in the news papers

[John Holmes]

To prevent future stealth, tie up the punters and ride them.
I wouldn't mind experience that heh

Throw the book at these scums and lock them up in prison with sex offenders and let them taste their own medicine in their butt hole