Seeking Sugar Babes

[TouchNGo]

I started 2022 by looking for some sugar on the Seeking Arrangements seeking.com website.

For those that don't know it is a site where older guys with money can meet young girls for paid dating. Officially the site doesn't allow escorts or prostitutions. Try to avoid discussing money and sex until the conversation moves to Kik or Whatsapp.

I set my search filters and location around Brisbane and soon after paying my registration of A$100 for four weeks my messages were flowing with 20-33 year girls willing to meet for PPM (pay per meet) sex. I did have a few nice coffee dates and dinners with a few girls while she was wrangling in her brain about whether she would have sex for money.

Korean 29
Was hosted on the north of Aspley by a slim korean mum for a few hours of fun and adventure. I think she is popular.

Viet 24
Fit young lady studying nursing, has an apartment in the city. met for dinner and back to her place.

Malaysian 31
In call to my place. Stunning body, a little too transactional but she loved sex.

Aussie Mum 35
Had an initial coffee then next day invited to her house. divorced about a year, horny as hell. Knows her stuff. Genuine amateur that just wants regular sex and is now getting paid as well. She says meeting guys on Tinder is lame.


The site is damn addictive. The idea that girls are contacting me for my cock and money is amazing (their first priority is $$$). Sure there are dreamers asking $1k+ but easy to just ignore them. At the core are lots of girl next door types that like sex and that they are getting paid is great for them.

Realistically I was paying $300-$600 per session depending on different factors. The flagfall is higher per session and as long as the girl is generous with her time, then it is good value.

I did spend way too much time chatting to the 21-24 year old age group. They are super hot but I'm just a little too old for them (or not willing to pay as much as they ask).

Would love to hear other people's experiences. That's experiences not opinions btw

[rideon]

Hi Touchngo, I tried seeking before and to be honest it was a little too time consuming. I would spend way to many hours each day looking at profile matches and responding to messages then installing apps that I had never used before just to communicate with the babes.
Whilst I had a couple of great meetings and sessions, some free but mostly paid. It just seemed to become a whole lot of work and cash to keep it up as the sugar babes would wine about lack of cash or some outstanding debt that just annoyed me. I eventually moved off it.
Bring back the old Redhotpie! that was great! Seeking just seemed to be a waist of time and money. Or even better just find a couple of great MLs and stick with them.

[funboybrisbane]

Speaking from 12yrs experience with sugar dating.
Red hot pie over seeking any day.
Especially if your into freaks.
I have convinced alot to go swinging and that's free sex with new people every time. Best VFM in the game.

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[ntkb]

Thanks for the info, T&G. Definitely sounds like something that I would be interested in.
Do you have to include a face pic in your profile? I'm kinda big on privacy.
Also, in your experience, what is the average price range for under 25's?
Cheers!

[BennyB]

I started 2022 by looking for some sugar on the Seeking Arrangements seeking.com website.

For those that don't know it is a site where older guys with money can meet young girls for paid dating. Officially the site doesn't allow escorts or prostitutions. Try to avoid discussing money and sex until the conversation moves to Kik or Whatsapp.

I set my search filters and location around Brisbane and soon after paying my registration of A$100 for four weeks my messages were flowing with 20-33 year girls willing to meet for PPM (pay per meet) sex. I did have a few nice coffee dates and dinners with a few girls while she was wrangling in her brain about whether she would have sex for money.

Korean 29
Was hosted on the north of Aspley by a slim korean mum for a few hours of fun and adventure. I think she is popular.

Viet 24
Fit young lady studying nursing, has an apartment in the city. met for dinner and back to her place.

Malaysian 31
In call to my place. Stunning body, a little too transactional but she loved sex.

Aussie Mum 35
Had an initial coffee then next day invited to her house. divorced about a year, horny as hell. Knows her stuff. Genuine amateur that just wants regular sex and is now getting paid as well. She says meeting guys on Tinder is lame.


The site is damn addictive. The idea that girls are contacting me for my cock and money is amazing (their first priority is $$$). Sure there are dreamers asking $1k+ but easy to just ignore them. At the core are lots of girl next door types that like sex and that they are getting paid is great for them.

Realistically I was paying $300-$600 per session depending on different factors. The flagfall is higher per session and as long as the girl is generous with her time, then it is good value.

I did spend way too much time chatting to the 21-24 year old age group. They are super hot but I'm just a little too old for them (or not willing to pay as much as they ask).

Would love to hear other people's experiences. That's experiences not opinions btw

My experiences very similiar to yours.

Have had to skip Brisbane for the past year with border closures sadly, but before that would regularly see SBs on trips up from Sydney.

Found that the Gold Coast is a little dearer than Brisbane - about 10-20% but in both cities I can find fun Euro students and young professionals for $400 PPM on average.

I read comments about finding regular WLs / MLs but that is precisely not want I want. I enjoy finding people that I can context with mentally and physically and I prefer European women.

I’m up in QLD next week and have lined up a three night play with a personal trainer I last saw pre Covid. I expect it to be a blast. I’ve had to step up my training as her endurance is much greater than mine.

[4FoW2]

Nice to read ppl experiences with this section of the market. I suppose if its a once a month or twice a month thing or you are flushed with cash it would be a good option. You'd, as the punters say, get a semi or non pro probably with a personality and have a relaxed or maybe super charged session. Either way it would be money well spent. Another example of how punting is often horses for courses. Some guys are happy with a quick 30 min RnT for 60 -80 bucks (maybe?)
4FoW2

[BennyB]

Nice to read ppl experiences with this section of the market. I suppose if its a once a month or twice a month thing or you are flushed with cash it would be a good option. You'd, as the punters say, get a semi or non pro probably with a personality and have a relaxed or maybe super charged session. Either way it would be money well spent. Another example of how punting is often horses for courses. Some guys are happy with a quick 30 min RnT for 60 -80 bucks (maybe?)
4FoW2

I think that’s a fair assessment. It’s horses for courses.

I don’t personally like the 30 minute fuck and run (which in reality is about 15-20 after health checks, showers, condom stuff around, music setting, blah blah blah).

There’s nothing wrong with it if that’s what you are looking for. I just prefer longer sessions once a fortnight or once a month and for them to be memorable.

I can’t remember most, if any of my old brothel punts. But I can remember every SB punt. When I’m old and in a rocking chair I’ll want to look back on as many awesome punts as I can.

[Falcon2005]

I don’t personally like the 30 minute fuck and run (which in reality is about 15-20 after health checks, showers, condom stuff around, music setting, blah blah blah).
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Agreed - I can never understand those that go to massage shops just to get FS. For the cost may as well got to escort and have longer time and get can noisy :) I do understand the thrill of finding that shy / innocent type that will do FS...but still. As you said each to there own

[BennyB]

Quite agree Falcon - as punters it’s helpful to know what’s out there to cater for our different tastes.

Punting isn’t a one size fits all?

[Pmb8]

Agreed - I can never understand those that go to massage shops just to get FS. For the cost may as well got to escort and have longer time and get can noisy :) I do understand the thrill of finding that shy / innocent type that will do FS...but still. As you said each to there own

If I go to get a ‘massage’ and someone who knows me sees me going in or out of the place, that’s explainable because of my sore and stiff neck. The same couldn’t be explained if I was seen entering a legal brothel. “But I was only getting a massage!”

I’m sure we are all visiting for different reasons and have different home lives.

And there is an element of surprise in every ml visit.

[newbiejones]

I have had a few months membership over the years. Got banned as well due to mentioning friends with benefit or similar before they deleted that option I believe. I still see a couple girls from it, still for $ but really relaxed and casual.

I reckon I have seen around 20 from there, some good and bad. Most I saw a few times but I get way too picky and move on.

I feel I have seen the Korean girl - a lot of oily looking makeup in pics maybe?

Others I am not sure about but would be really interested in info if I sign up again.

Site does require a lot of chatting, and most waste time or ask for too much.

Some of my meets told me about daddies offering a lot of $ but most of them offering that much have some sort of strange fetish based on my conversations with girls.

[Waigorjai]

I started 2022 by looking for some sugar on the Seeking Arrangements seeking.com website.

For those that don't know it is a site where older guys with money can meet young girls for paid dating. Officially the site doesn't allow escorts or prostitutions. Try to avoid discussing money and sex until the conversation moves to Kik or Whatsapp.

I set my search filters and location around Brisbane and soon after paying my registration of A$100 for four weeks my messages were flowing with 20-33 year girls willing to meet for PPM (pay per meet) sex. I did have a few nice coffee dates and dinners with a few girls while she was wrangling in her brain about whether she would have sex for money.

Korean 29
Was hosted on the north of Aspley by a slim korean mum for a few hours of fun and adventure. I think she is popular.

Viet 24
Fit young lady studying nursing, has an apartment in the city. met for dinner and back to her place.

Malaysian 31
In call to my place. Stunning body, a little too transactional but she loved sex.

Aussie Mum 35
Had an initial coffee then next day invited to her house. divorced about a year, horny as hell. Knows her stuff. Genuine amateur that just wants regular sex and is now getting paid as well. She says meeting guys on Tinder is lame.


The site is damn addictive. The idea that girls are contacting me for my cock and money is amazing (their first priority is $$$). Sure there are dreamers asking $1k+ but easy to just ignore them. At the core are lots of girl next door types that like sex and that they are getting paid is great for them.

Realistically I was paying $300-$600 per session depending on different factors. The flagfall is higher per session and as long as the girl is generous with her time, then it is good value.

I did spend way too much time chatting to the 21-24 year old age group. They are super hot but I'm just a little too old for them (or not willing to pay as much as they ask).

Would love to hear other people's experiences. That's experiences not opinions btw

Thanks for sharing your experience, you’ve inspired me to have a go! Which website did you join because when I Google it heaps come up. Just don’t want to be signing up to one that’s a scam or crappy. Thanks!

[newbiejones]

His original post says

Seeking Arrangements seeking.com website

[BennyB]

The site is www.seeking.com

[hogansheros_breakout]

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[tt108102]

I’ve had more success on here overall than massage shops etc. And cheaper overall too. You just need to put the time in. And some of the girls with daddy issues and low self esteem will likely fuck you for free. That’s what I found anyway. They are not always the 10/10 but still pretty good and young.

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[BennyB]

Should have posted for you chaps in here. The GC is paradise for SBs, although Brisbane is not far off.

Three nights with my regular girl up in the GC when I come up from Sydney - apologies for posting it in the Sydney, Melbourne, GC SB thread.

[exflux]

i've had a few sugar babes but i realised after a while it was not exclusive so i gave up

[hogansheros_breakout]

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[exflux]

is anything exclusive?

girls have a better capacity to receive and be paid than males have to generate the required cash.

I always thought sugar babe means giving them set amount of money per week so i can see them anytimes i want. but it seems she sells herself out to a lot of others.

[redsmittyjohnson]

A few questions for us ball-n-chain members on here:

Paying for seek or redhotpie, what shows up on your bank or cc statements?
Are most of the girls Aussie or are there plenty of asians and other ethnics?
On average, are you meeting them at their place or your place?

[hogansheros_breakout]

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[blake_ly]

hogansheros, i gotta say you're my new favourite member in this forum. Liking the details and advice on how to interact.

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[joeblow251]

anyone in Brisbane had any luck with this one Savhie (https://members.seeking.com/member/229ea161-f2cd-4ff7-ab69-8f099b272fa5) She changes her profile weekly with amazing pics but conversations are strange.

Don't know what to make of this though, are they meaning they wont do it for free :) I thought that's the idea, money for time together?


If a man has nothing to offer then I wouldn't want to spend a minute wasting mine too

[hogansheros_breakout]

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[Rickmathew]

Wondering if it's worth paying the website fees..
Are they for real and get down to business or is it more of a work your way to the business.?

[exflux]

Wondering if it's worth paying the website fees..
Are they for real and get down to business or is it more of a work your way to the business.?

what website fees ? which ?

[hogansheros_breakout]

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[gpeck80]

How many girls aged 18-23 are getting paid 45$ an hour at a casual job?

[bouncybouncy]

You'd be surprised how many pretty girls get paid above their skill level. What am i saying, noone is surprised.

[hogansheros_breakout]

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[Nick007]

Will be good to name the scammers/fakes on the website.
I’ve join and will see how it goes

[hogansheros_breakout]

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[newbiejones]

Nick if you created an account the best thing would be to try and find someone else with one and exchange info, girls to miss etc..
Hard to do though as every single person is selfish and doesnt like to share usually. Too many guys think girls are only sleeping for them and they are special... while still giving them $ to actually visit haha

[exflux]

Will be good to name the scammers/fakes on the website.
I’ve join and will see how it goes

can you let me know how you go with the website please ? i joined years ago and all i got was scammed.

fake pics, profiles etc etc

also, did you use your real pic in the profile ?

[Nick007]

Will do exflux
I used photo with beard, sunnies and mask, so bank robber image, but fit for the current world we live in.
I am moving to Melbourne, so my hometown is Melbourne.
Happy to share the good, the bad and the ugly.
Message me and I’ll let you know as soon as I have info.
That goes for anyone, just message me - good girls should be rewarded ��

[Nick007]

I use to have a profile of Seek Arrangement but all contacts were fake.
They all talk the talk, but always mention something like they have 5 kids, or something to let you cancel the chat with them. They normally through a comment like that after a couple of message exchange. That way, it is you that cancel and not them. I normally play along and say something like 5 kids is not issue for me, always polite and calm even if they try to start an argument. At the end, they cancel the connection and delete the profile.
If you block them, then the profile stay and they can use the profile on someone else. If they delete they have to create a new account, upload photos, so wasting some of their time.
All part of the fun and games

[Nick007]

I also had a Sugar Daddy site account, again all fakes.
Main reason I am here, to check reviews of girls on E&B and Blue, skip the fakes base on the info share on here and punt the good ones��
Base on a couple of other treads it sounds like people do not want to share to much info due to Big Brother may be watching. I’ll share reviews and message me for any specific details. We are here for one thing and no-one want to wast money.

[hogansheros_breakout]

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[hogansheros_breakout]

I'll up this info as it is now out of date....

[Aenima]

I am going to look into seeking, sound interesting.

[hogansheros_breakout]

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[Aenima]

Can I ask why the burner number for whatsapp? just to avoid SPAM?

[darkice]

incase you're in a relationship

[Jamesyouare]

If you go burner phone/number do you also go prepaid cards?

I find it interesting there are many success stories but I still think a good higher quality session is easier - but each person likes different things and I don’t like to pretend I’m in a relationship- it’s great when the higher quality girls create a experience

[memememe]

i was on some of these sites - gets a bit expensive but results are good

1. Hot black girl form Gold Coast - 22
2. Hot indian girl from Brisbane - 27
3. great body blond from brisbane - very horny - 32
4. Hot little 23 year old aussie
5. Thai girl from ipswich - 19
6. hot blond from brisbane 29
7. nice 35 year old - good body eager to please
8. hot 37 year old Gold Coast body builder - blond and eager - has a few miles on her but knows what to do
9. 3 or 4 asians in melbourne -
10. off to sydney to meet 3 or 4 next week
11. plenty of overseas options for when travel picks up

[hogansheros_breakout]

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[exflux]

i really didn't know there were any hot Indians

[exflux]

If you go burner phone/number do you also go prepaid cards?

I find it interesting there are many success stories but I still think a good higher quality session is easier - but each person likes different things and I don’t like to pretend I’m in a relationship- it’s great when the higher quality girls create a experience

normally i buy prepaid MasterCard from Coles. $257 gets you a prepaid MasterCard with $250 value. and a prepaid SIM. best is Optus, i think.

[Aenima]

just to be neat and tidy. you will be handing your number to quite a few random people outside of your normal network. when you decide to cut off your SB activity and concentrate on your roster, you also then have an option to cut off random messages. And they will come many months down the track.

You will also unknowingly give your number to some scammers. After a few whatsapp messages you will decide they are scammers. They will have your number and message you from new numbers each few months once you are in their database.

Thanks once again for the info, I will get something organise soon and see how things go.

[newbiejones]

I thought sim (any type) still need to be registered to a valid gov id ? Not like WLs have access to that but still.


meme - All these below recent?

i was on some of these sites - gets a bit expensive but results are good

1. Hot black girl form Gold Coast - 22
2. Hot indian girl from Brisbane - 27
3. great body blond from brisbane - very horny - 32
4. Hot little 23 year old aussie
5. Thai girl from ipswich - 19
6. hot blond from brisbane 29
7. nice 35 year old - good body eager to please
8. hot 37 year old Gold Coast body builder - blond and eager - has a few miles on her but knows what to do
9. 3 or 4 asians in melbourne -
10. off to sydney to meet 3 or 4 next week
11. plenty of overseas options for when travel picks up

[funboybrisbane]

i really didn't know there were any hot IndiansThe one I have been seeing for a few years.
Absolute stunner. 7834178342

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[Donkeydong]

The one I have been seeing for a few years.
Absolute stunner. 7834178342

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Bro what price do u offer her ?

[Donkeydong]

Guys there’s a couple of girls from Sunshine Coast . They will randomly message u hey handsome, even if u have ur pics hidden.

Be cautious .. they are hot but they will come into your hole - ask for money in advance and find the chance to run out the front door with ur money ….

[funboybrisbane]

If you add everything up it would be around $800-1000 per week including all the hotels food gifts Netflix phones ect.

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[Jamesyouare]

I created an account - initially with no photo - 2min later got hit with 20 girls within 5km wanting to hook up - seriously

All I had to do was grab the good old $100 account…..

If you looking for genuine sugar daddy stuff stick at it and ignore the bs BUT last post says it - be prepared to fork out and why the account, additional expenses etc should not matter - if it seems too expensive then it’s not for you - use the usual methods - there are legit sugar babes who can and will find the cashed up bloke and then the bottom feeders who might fuck you but tinder is much easier and straight forward….

A good sugar relationship is not cheap but awesome and then again nothing in life that is good is cheap….

[alexchinn]

I created an account - initially with no photo - 2min later got hit with 20 girls within 5km wanting to hook up - seriously

All I had to do was grab the good old $100 account…..

If you looking for genuine sugar daddy stuff stick at it and ignore the bs BUT last post says it - be prepared to fork out and why the account, additional expenses etc should not matter - if it seems too expensive then it’s not for you - use the usual methods - there are legit sugar babes who can and will find the cashed up bloke and then the bottom feeders who might fuck you but tinder is much easier and straight forward….

A good sugar relationship is not cheap but awesome and then again nothing in life that is good is cheap….

did you meet up with any of them yet ? are they any good ? worth the money, in your opinion ?

[Jamesyouare]

did you meet up with any of them yet ? are they any good ? worth the money, in your opinion ?

Only talk so far - I’m not convinced

I think it suits the singles more unfortunately

More hard work and costs fur the higher quality and too mush bullshit on the ransoms / if single go for it - if not it’s not sugar

Like I said I’ve done this before and these websites smell of bullshit - yep you might get a fuck and get it “cheap” but add on - and make a call

True sugar is fucking awesome - I’d love to offer a girl something now but shit it could fuck so many things up if it goes wrong hence why the website was created but I like it old school - that said….. no words go there and most arrangements take a long time but I know she’d be keen if she knew i would be on the same page knowing we both have a future without each other….it’s just for now

[alexchinn]

i only asked cos you said you got hit by 20 girls within a 5km radius 2 minutes after creating your account.

i myself have an account ( no profile pics, i've not paid a single cent yet ) and i've had girls ( around 5 ) offering to suck me off 30 minutes after the account was sent up.

at that time, i was wondering, how do they offer that when they don't even know what i look like ? or who i am, really ? or are they just bots, designed by the website so that i will pay for subscription to enable me to reply to their messages ?

if anyone has a paid subscription to such websites, can you offer any kind of input ? thank you in advance.

[funboybrisbane]

i only asked cos you said you got hit by 20 girls within a 5km radius 2 minutes after creating your account.

i myself have an account ( no profile pics, i've not paid a single cent yet ) and i've had girls ( around 5 ) offering to suck me off 30 minutes after the account was sent up.

at that time, i was wondering, how do they offer that when they don't even know what i look like ? or who i am, really ? or are they just bots, designed by the website so that i will pay for subscription to enable me to reply to their messages ?

if anyone has a paid subscription to such websites, can you offer any kind of input ? thank you in advance.Lots of bots initaly. Human bots that is [emoji1787]
Honestly MLs are easier to deal with.
I have been sugar dating for over 10 years. Early in the days it was straight forward, but these days its just painful to get through to the right ones.
Sooooooo many drop kick guys out there have fucked up the scene.
Also soooooo many waste of oxygen girls fuck you over with dates and no shows.
I run 3 business so my time is very limited.
If you have time to waste go for it.

Good luck. Lots to learn.
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[exflux]

Back from GC. Met a little hottie half German half Asian student. 500 per night i paid her and boy was she fun a definite keeper. On 2 nd night she said we dont need condoms so fucked bareback in my hotel.

Only thing boys if they park at the hotel make sure they dont charge it to your room Im going to have to explain that one to the boss haha!



is this someone from the massage place or is she a WL ?

[exflux]

girls from Seeking can actually work out to be more expensive .....

[funboybrisbane]

girls from Seeking can actually work out to be more expensive .....Usually are if they want all the fruit as well. Which most do [emoji1787]

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[Puntersclub]

i only pay for dates if there is intimacy, but dont mind a platonic outing. As they are in the lifestyle for the “benefit” platonic outings are rare. Compared to a WL. There is no hourly rate, and weekends away etc all included in the agreed rate.

[pistolpete78]

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[carlco777]

I’ve both punted and done the sugar thing for a couple years now. Still consider myself relatively new to it all.

But I would say that while the sugar scene is harder work, the VFM is far better if you find someone you’re interested in. I do value some sort of conversation and connection.

I’ve had some that I never paid anything more than dinner and/or a hotel in the city for a night. And we met quite a few times. Some just came over and we had fun. And these were hot ladies.


I’ve fallen for one. That didn’t end well, of course.

But overall, for say 3-500 clams, these ladies will come to your place. You’ll have a few drinks, some decent conversation, get busy more than once and spend some quality time. I’ve had overnights ranging from 350-500.

But it takes some investment initially. And I don’t mind that.


Have ranged from young ladies with bolt ons to middle aged single mums, some with bolt ons too lol. Even found some sexy ones in the 50+ range who were hot to trot.

It works for me.

Just my thoughts.


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you are one fortunate punter. you have got both money and venue for your exploits. when the girls have time, they just show up at your place, do stuff and get paid.

i'm on the other side. i'm looking for someone that i can go to, do stuff, pay and leave. money, i don't mind spending. duds, i'm afraid of. and there are many out there.

have you ever had any of them want to stick to you like a leech ? i've had two, and they were both not good experiences, that is why i don't want them visiting me now. i very much prefer to go to them.

[pistolpete78]

you are one fortunate punter. you have got both money and venue for your exploits. when the girls have time, they just show up at your place, do stuff and get paid.

i'm on the other side. i'm looking for someone that i can go to, do stuff, pay and leave. money, i don't mind spending. duds, i'm afraid of. and there are many out there.

have you ever had any of them want to stick to you like a leech ? i've had two, and they were both not good experiences, that is why i don't want them visiting me now. i very much prefer to go to them.

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[carlco777]

No clingers yet, though I get that is a risk. For safety until I get to know them, I have an “alternate” phone. Though, that’s not much good if they know where you live [emoji1787]. So it’s about building a bit of trust. Then maybe we move from messaging on apps, or burner phone, to real number.

Had a recent one I’d never even met get a bit demanding. So I told her we won’t be chatting again. Nothing lost.

I had one or two girls who for 3 visits in a row would barely want to touch and just watch tv. First visit or 2 I can cop that while you build a rapport. They were nice, but after 3, nah, I’m out. I can live with that.

Others are almost opposite. Took one after dinner to show her my office and she wanted to fuck in the boardroom. A dream right?!

I was so paranoid about cameras/being busted, I just couldn’t. That would kill my career, which I cannot deal with.

We had a couple weekends away.

Sadly, that’s the one I fell for lol.

So there are swings and roundabouts. But I have a couple of very enjoyable arrangements atm.

A 20-something babe with the firmest ass and tits I’ve ever seen (in person at least). She could crack walnuts with that ass. And a 30-something single mum with a different ethnic background. Always very accommodating. Every meeting is more than enjoyable. And all at mine. But some level of trust was built first.

Just my experience.


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did you have to pay when they came over just to watch television/movie ?

the weekends away, did you pay for everything ?

sorry for all the questions, i've never had such an arrangement before. i'm still trying to work out if over the long term, is it cheaper for sugar babes or single-use-only WL's

can you advise ? thank you for your expertise.

[Jamesyouare]

did you have to pay when they came over just to watch television/movie ?

the weekends away, did you pay for everything ?

sorry for all the questions, i've never had such an arrangement before. i'm still trying to work out if over the long term, is it cheaper for sugar babes or single-use-only WL's

can you advise ? thank you for your expertise.

If you have to ask you cannot afford it - what’s included means this is not right - there are cheap wannabe hookers lurking in there no that’s all you will get

This is everything wrong with the process - guys wanting more for less girls taking advantage

If you want a real sugar girl you will know how to pay and when to pay - but I get it’s a minefield do pick up cues and most will try and rip you and be prepared for that but remember you started it with a hard on so be careful what you say

[carlco777]

you make it sound like sugar babes could actually work out much much more expensive than WL's or ML's

yeah, i probably can't afford it then. i can't pay $200 to someone who comes over to my place to watch a bit of Netflix then leave, then another come by again for another movie at a cost of another $200. whole day could be gone, i could be $400 or $500 poorer with no action to show for it. maybe one day if i strike it rich and have that kind of cash, i might then decide to do a bit of charity and have myself a sugar babe.

how i marvel at this generation of young girls, especially the ones who are hot. they don't really got to go to work. get a few pictures taken, advertise themselves on websites, go around visiting people, watching movies, occasionally getting a screw here and there, and come home at the end of the DAY $700 or $800 richer and just repeat the procedure everyday or every time they feel like it.

i wonder how many people in here have hot daughters or nieces and wonder if their daughters or nieces are actually someone else's sugar babes. anyone ?

[Jamesyouare]

you make it sound like sugar babes could actually work out much much more expensive than WL's or ML's

yeah, i probably can't afford it then. i can't pay $200 to someone who comes over to my place to watch a bit of Netflix then leave, then another come by again for another movie at a cost of another $200. whole day could be gone, i could be $400 or $500 poorer with no action to show for it. maybe one day if i strike it rich and have that kind of cash, i might then decide to do a bit of charity and have myself a sugar babe.

how i marvel at this generation of young girls, especially the ones who are hot. they don't really got to go to work. get a few pictures taken, advertise themselves on websites, go around visiting people, watching movies, occasionally getting a screw here and there, and come home at the end of the DAY $700 or $800 richer and just repeat the procedure everyday or every time they feel like it.

i wonder how many people in here have hot daughters or nieces and wonder if their daughters or nieces are actually someone else's sugar babes. anyone ?

My point is is trying to compare, if counting it may not be right - my approach to sugar babies concept be it by a website or other is to knowingly look after a young lady and I NEVER count - I never think about what I’m buying it have purchased - fair enough I’ve been fucked over and used many times and in some cases don’t care

So now there are girls who know the program and will use it, some happy with the little bone they are thrown and some who will fuck you over making you wish you had banged that boiler

Know what you are walking into - it’s not a subscription for easy sex - might be easier if you are 6ft, hit the gym and have some cash but there is another issue if that’s the case….

Anyway it’s nit s math equation but a different style - you generally go through a normal dating process with a much younger hotter chick then you might otherwise be with regularly but are obliged to pick up most bills

For me if it’s hook up for cash it’s not sugar baby and I think there are better sites for this - I actually think there is a place for young women smart enough and hot enough to earn money how they want

In regards to the comment about thinking of your family might do it - what if they brothel or just get drunk and hook up? It’s none of our business - I hope try make good choices for their own life - if they feel it’s an option it’s free choice…I don’t let’s that bleed into being a bloody protector of women - the freaks who act like heroes are the worst - just let people make choices - you, the brothel girls, the young sugars and anyone else - they know generally what they are getting into and money can be a big attraction - not many seriously hit chicks will give it up for nothing - and different things represent value

Enjoy….it’s the easiest way

[Puntersclub]

Firstly, no honey no money. Platonic dates are not compensated dates. All these things are sorted at the M & G. So if she thinks she can bare you humping her brains out, after going to dinner your on your way. In my experience they all understand that sex is part of the deal. You need to ask what are you looking just sex, see a WL, if you want companionship someone to travel with, sleep over and is half your age then a SB is for you. On an hourly rate basis the SB is way cheaper. If your willing to shell out the price of someone on Escorts and Babes ( for an hour) then you can afford a SB.
But the SB will be less transactional, require at a minimum that you talk to them and treat them as well as you would as if you were dating them.

[carlco777]

i've heard from some that SB makes $600 a day. a WL on 150/30 min makes the same, but much more screwing involved than SB. so the SB's are having it easy, in my opinion.

[alexchinn]

is this normal sugar baby price ?

https://brisbane.locanto.com.au/ID_5543604688/Sugar-baby.html

[alexchinn]

sorry, wrong ad :

https://brisbane.locanto.com.au/ID_5542895163/Looking-for-SugarDaddy.html

[Puntersclub]

ha ha , thats crazy money. Most arrangements have a base amount $400 - $500 per week. If the arrangement is “working” properly then if you go away for a weekend etc then you pick up the travel costs, just like a vanilla relationship but no extra $$$ on top of the weekly amount. Remember these girls are not professionals, they have various reasons for seeing an older, established guy. Some of the people on seeking are professionals but it becomes obvious very quickly. If your used to a WL or ML you need to reset your thinking, and always remember that all three are humans with feelings

[Jamesyouare]

You make some interesting points James.

I’ve been dating Sugarbabes for several years now. When you say there are better sites for hookups, which are you referring to? In my experience the quality of 20 something hot young women wanting to hook up is limited if you are 40+ On traditional dating sites.

Some are better than others but that changes too but overall for casual sex that seems best outside of shops and private’s -

Overall if you want casual sex with no connection a regular private works best

If you just want sex then be honest on main stream dating but have something to offer

If you are over 40, no oil painting and not fit (as in really fit and not a gut with big arms ha ha) then you don’t have a lot to work with

[bradpitt]

If you are over 40, no oil painting and not fit (as in really fit and not a gut with big arms ha ha) then you don’t have a lot to work with
I am well over 40 and still happy to chance my arm with the younger set. BUT I don't waste my time on ones that are clearly not interested. There are so many jaded girls that appreciate a softer cock and some extra cash. Money which is much more plentiful at my age seems to overcome many barriers.

[Jamesyouare]

Yes money does talk for sure at s as my age - I just hate the I’m only her gut one reason - fucking act if you need to but honestly being a sugar baby like that is like being cheap with them - but there are both sides screwing it up - hell knows why as not fir everyone but a great system

[bradpitt]

Yes money does talk for sure at s as my age - I just hate the I’m only her gut one reason - fucking act if you need to but honestly being a sugar baby like that is like being cheap with them - but there are both sides screwing it up - hell knows why as not fir everyone but a great system

please try articulating that again

[Flyisdown]

Yes money does talk for sure at s as my age - I just hate the I’m only her gut one reason - fucking act if you need to but honestly being a sugar baby like that is like being cheap with them - but there are both sides screwing it up - hell knows why as not fir everyone but a great system

?????? please explain?

[Jamesyouare]

Ha ha auto correct and not checking….I was sober for once but that’s just funny ha ha

Basically what I am trying to point out is that you should not skimp on sugars BUT it should be a natural arrangement not be like a private so treat them well but not try pay or buy them

[Jamesyouare]

Hmmm much younger girl shooting THAT look kind of at gym - maybe there is something she sees but I think it could be a possible avenue - I hate weird guys hitting on girls but going to strike up a random conversation - it could be the second outside a website or intro and pickup ever and the first worked out amazing BUT fuck it up and then it’s real awkward

[miiata]

seems for girls these days, being a sugar babe is an extra money-spinning avenue.

i finally visited my sugar babe at her place last weekend. i was surprised to see pics of her and her husband ( she told me later they'd been happily married 8 years ) hanging on the walls in the bedroom. i always assumed sugar babes were single, but no, not so ! she told me a lot of her friends, even the ones in seemingly stable relationships were doing the same thing as well. if they can squeeze some time in between here and there, they'd be at their sugar daddy's place. money is hard to make these days, her excuse.

i wonder how many married men out there would suspect their partners working as sugar babes or even WL's. but i guess in this country of 'no-worries', people tend to think positive and they never see or pretend not to see what's really going on. Browsing through pages on Scarlet Blue, so many hot girls, you'd have to think that every hot girl you walk past in the streets is a WL or at least someone's sugar babe. all the make-up on their face could easily cost upwards of $400 a week. can they really all be holding on to high paying jobs ? makes me wonder.

[Jamesyouare]

seems for girls these days, being a sugar babe is an extra money-spinning avenue.

i finally visited my sugar babe at her place last weekend. i was surprised to see pics of her and her husband ( she told me later they'd been happily married 8 years ) hanging on the walls in the bedroom. i always assumed sugar babes were single, but no, not so ! she told me a lot of her friends, even the ones in seemingly stable relationships were doing the same thing as well. if they can squeeze some time in between here and there, they'd be at their sugar daddy's place. money is hard to make these days, her excuse.

i wonder how many married men out there would suspect their partners working as sugar babes or even WL's. but i guess in this country of 'no-worries', people tend to think positive and they never see or pretend not to see what's really going on. Browsing through pages on Scarlet Blue, so many hot girls, you'd have to think that every hot girl you walk past in the streets is a WL or at least someone's sugar babe. all the make-up on their face could easily cost upwards of $400 a week. can they really all be holding on to high paying jobs ? makes me wonder.

That’s a new one but hey - anything goes - maybe it’s my type but usually I go for young who just want some cash and experiences

I have had a few older ones come knocking - some without asking for $ but there is no fucking chance I’m paying for a sb with baggage like that - that’s what rip of hookers are for ha ha

[carlco777]

i think it is somewhat true. i've seen a lot of hot girls in the casino between 2am and 6am in the mornings and i recognise a lot of them having ads in Scarlett Blue. but the funny thing is they seem to enjoy hanging around guys who cannot afford proper clothes or loser-type people. all that money they make to spend on those types of guys. i've stopped paying premium for such girls.

[Jamesyouare]

i think it is somewhat true. i've seen a lot of hot girls in the casino between 2am and 6am in the mornings and i recognise a lot of them having ads in Scarlett Blue. but the funny thing is they seem to enjoy hanging around guys who cannot afford proper clothes or loser-type people. all that money they make to spend on those types of guys. i've stopped paying premium for such girls.

Maybe clothes are not priority, maybe they have a big dick, maybe they do drugs and live life on the edge - each ti their own but I do agree how they come across they might want something more refined but I cannot judge

[rideon]

seems for girls these days, being a sugar babe is an extra money-spinning avenue.

i finally visited my sugar babe at her place last weekend. i was surprised to see pics of her and her husband ( she told me later they'd been happily married 8 years ) hanging on the walls in the bedroom. i always assumed sugar babes were single, but no, not so ! she told me a lot of her friends, even the ones in seemingly stable relationships were doing the same thing as well. if they can squeeze some time in between here and there, they'd be at their sugar daddy's place. money is hard to make these days, her excuse.

i wonder how many married men out there would suspect their partners working as sugar babes or even WL's. but i guess in this country of 'no-worries', people tend to think positive and they never see or pretend not to see what's really going on. Browsing through pages on Scarlet Blue, so many hot girls, you'd have to think that every hot girl you walk past in the streets is a WL or at least someone's sugar babe. all the make-up on their face could easily cost upwards of $400 a week. can they really all be holding on to high paying jobs ? makes me wonder.

I think you should look at this from the other genders point of view... Has anyone heard of a site where 40yr old + women go on a forum to talk about the studs they meet or the Male Escorts they bang? Or a massage joint with all males to satisfy females only?
Sorry miiata but that logic is just screwed! The reason why these Escorts, Sugarbabes, MLs exist is because You, Me and every fucker on this site are looking for their next sexual fix! fuck me half the cunts on this site cant get their cock erect! and have to take a pill to do the deed!
She probably has the picks to show you she has a man who will miss her if you abuse her and will come and fuck you up ! dont know. thats how I would read the situation but if you want to have a look in your phone and check out the family pics with you and your 4.2 family on your last holiday smiling at the great life you have and show your sugar babe. Lets see how she interprets that?

[miiata]

i'm not sure what you are saying, but if girls pay to fuck me, for sure they can have a website to discuss if i am value for money or if i am good in the sack etc etc. that is the point of this website. it is a place where people air their opinions or bring to attention things they see.

why would i want to show pics of my family to my sugar babe ? is that something you would do ? hmm.

anyhow, girls ( whether single or in a happy relationship ) are in this for the money and we pay them to do what they do. simple as that.

[Jamesyouare]

I think we all know right or wrong women can get what they want when they want - despite there being quite a few nymphos out there they can make money ff it - it’s created what we have with a lot of men being idiots and women try ipojj in my them off but is what it is and not going to change any time soon

To the point in photos - some girls don’t give a shit - it’s their home, their life / hopefully some guy does not stop to take in the photo, see if he knows him or whatever / it shows a lot of class and comfort to do that rather than have everything hidden

Despite all this inviting potential weirdos into your house seems out of control but as I said it’s their place snd shows class.

Why not ask or comment / in a nice way of course - maybe he’s hiding in the closet ha ha

[miiata]

i thought sugar babe is when you pay the girl to be at your beck and call. if she has got a few other sugar daddies, doesn't it make her a WL ?

[Jamesyouare]

i thought sugar babe is when you pay the girl to be at your beck and call. if she has got a few other sugar daddies, doesn't it make her a WL ?

Yep they are atyour beck and call to do WHATEVER you want WHEN you want, day, night, does not matter.

That twenty you flick her should keep her inline and BEGGING for it

If not, or if in doubt label her

[johnny blaze]

i thought sugar babe is when you pay the girl to be at your beck and call. if she has got a few other sugar daddies, doesn't it make her a WL ?

Not at all, some of these clowns pay an allowance to a girl without even seeing them some weeks. Would be dreaming to think they’re not milking others as well. The pay pigs just do it because it they get off on supporting someone

[Jamesyouare]

In todays scene wanting all sorts of shit they will milk people under the label of this but yeh true sb is see when it suits both - most would be happy with that - maybe see another but now they rip everyone off charging like an escort by the hour -

A true sb is simply exchanging things to get the finer things - not some hag looking to major cash with rules

[Yellow Fever]

In todays scene wanting all sorts of shit they will milk people under the label of this but yeh true sb is see when it suits both - most would be happy with that - maybe see another but now they rip everyone off charging like an escort by the hour -

A true sb is simply exchanging things to get the finer things - not some hag looking to major cash with rules

You’re dead right there, mate.
A nameless awesome ML asked me about an out of shop SB arrangement?
Her offer was everything, the charge zero. In exchange, all expense paid to be a travel companion.
Interesting offer?

[Jamesyouare]

You’re dead right there, mate.
A nameless awesome ML asked me about an out of shop SB arrangement?
Her offer was everything, the charge zero. In exchange, all expense paid to be a travel companion.
Interesting offer?

I’m always a bit wary of the shop girls going rogue but then again for every 10 shit there is 1 amazing experience

The sites are full of ads, fakes and fake hookers so it’s an option

I love the randoms so much harder but worth it

[Eggs.Fertiliser]

At least with the shop girls you know the spec...much better than wasting time on online shites browsing through fakes/bots/scammers

some of the MLs are often shy and need a few visits to open up. I often try to get the regular treament then move on, if I can get FS right off the bat I would not return.

[Eggs.Fertiliser]

double post by mistake

[exflux]

You’re dead right there, mate.
A nameless awesome ML asked me about an out of shop SB arrangement?
Her offer was everything, the charge zero. In exchange, all expense paid to be a travel companion.
Interesting offer?

if she is going to demand the best hotels, the best restaurants all the time, you are in trouble. cheapest way is single-use-only WL's

[newbiejones]

Seeking asking verified ID sometimes which is annoying.
Sugardaddy seems ok but more expensive. Good thing is the video verification. Seriously you compare the pics the girl posts to the video and should be able to sue for fake advertising. Videos always more accurate.

[Eggs.Fertiliser]

Videos always more accurate.

not so much with today technology

https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-49151042

[newbiejones]

Checkout sugardaddy and you will see what I am talking about. They need to say a specific phrase for verification.

[Yellow Fever]

if she is going to demand the best hotels, the best restaurants all the time, you are in trouble. cheapest way is single-use-only WL's

Oh, there was no demand for high end accommodation, restaurants, etc.
It was purely a travel companion arrangement.
Obviously, she had an inclination….backpackers, or KFC, wouldn’t be on the itinerary….lol.

[Falcon2005]

Ive been checking out a sugar baby site lately. I had previously deleted account on here due to lack of responses, what I think are too many fake profiles messaging me and of course it cost tokens to reply to them. The whole site seems to be there to scam the gents as the babes don't pay anything to be on there.
Anyways - against my better judgement, thought I check it out again. Im only looking at pay per meet type arrangements and clearly state this on my profile. I had a few responses, but seriously, some of these women thing their pussy is made of gold too. One today - 22 yr old uni student, attractive looks but curvy body type (id put on the large side from her photos), says she had arrangement at $1500 ppm but minimum with intimacy would be $800. Better off going to a massage shop and trying your luck :)

[miiata]

i don't mind being a sugar daddy, but only if i've got EXCLUSIVE rights to her .... but these days, some sugar babes see four or five others.

[Sydboy65]

There’s a whole long thread on this in the Sydney forum. And other forums with Sugarbabe reviews. You don’t need to go blindly into it if you have the intel