Australian borders opening finally

[Carissawhore]

Get your dusty passports ready, our borders are opening globally, finally we can punt in other countries once they start letting us in.

[Carissawhore]

I have been itching for Thai pussy for almost 6 months now, @thaigoodtimes can you please start posting some pointers of all the places in Thailand for our fella punters.

[asiafever]

With a touch of luck I'm off to Eastern Europe middle of next year, trip has been delayed 12 months already..
If that falls through then I'll find a plan b, a trip to Korea is overdue, an old flame in Japan is very eager to catch up, and my friends in L.A. want a catch up as well...

[rooter]

I'll just chill out and wait here in caput mundi.
The Japanese honeys should start coming to us next year.

[yug]

What a globe-trotting, whirlwind pussy explorers for forumers we have got.
Everybody has dick for a compass.
I am not as privileged so I will wait for pussy to come home.

[suka02]

does this mean we can travel any countries or just certain country?

[GoldfishMan]

does this mean we can travel any countries or just certain country?

Only to those countries that have also opened up borders to accept foreign arrivals, dude.

[Lazor Zap]

I have been itching for Thai pussy for almost 6 months now, @thaigoodtimes can you please start posting some pointers of all the places in Thailand for our fella punters.

Pattaya and Bangkok and my go to places in Thailand, I usually spend a few nights in Bangkok then hop in a taxi to Patttaya, in Bangkok Nana hotel is a perfect location to stay, in Pattaya pretty much anywhere is good to stay as the Baht buses running 24/7 is great to get around

[wilisno]

does this mean we can travel any countries or just certain country?

Only a few countries.

Some countries like Vietnam and Malaysia you wouldn’t want to go to yet, the virus is still running rampant there…

[AHLUNGOR]

Only a few countries.

Some countries like Vietnam and Malaysia you wouldn’t want to go to yet, the virus is still running rampant there…

Yeap, Vietnam has 7,940 new cases yesterday, Malaysia has 12,434 and Thailand 10,414 - take your pick.

The real problem is, if you got sick overseas, you trust their emergency health systems ?

When NSW reopen, if you are fully vaccinated, you could visit many shops where the girls are also likely vaccinated - it’s up to you to sort out their status , much safer at home I’ll say.

[suka02]

https://www.skyscanner.com.au/travel-restrictions?utm_content=top-link&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=au_green_list_AU_2021-10-01&utm_term=engaged

Look up the Travel map here.. nearly all asian countries we not allowed to visit including thailand. Only japan, korea and few others allowed. Funny that Africa, middle east and europe are allowed. What valid reason we allow to visit Thailand?

[rooter]

You would have to be crazy to take a holiday to South East Asia as soon as the borders open.
These countries have double vax rates of around only 20% and covid galore.
And their health systems are fucked and can't cope with their own people, let alone foreigners.
Getting a medevac flight back to Australia will cost you an arm and a leg and that's if it can be organised and they let you back in.
Being sick and maybe even dying alone and far from home doesn't sound like my idea of a fun holiday.
And anyway even if you don't get sick , how much of a fun holiday will it be with covid rampant and all the precautions and all the restrictions you have to follow?
Put it off until at least next year. There's no rush. It will still be there.

[Climax598]

Even Singapore is having 2000+ infection a day estimate to go to 10000 a day In 2 weeks and they have 90% Vax and mask wearing. I m not going to travel just watch and wait 6 months and get the booster 3 shot then most countries have 80+ Vax rate. I don't think the travel insurance will cover covid infection, maybe I m wrong.

[studsg]

You would have to be crazy to take a holiday to South East Asia as soon as the borders open.
These countries have double vax rates of around only 20% and covid galore.
And their health systems are fucked and can't cope with their own people, let alone foreigners.
Getting a medevac flight back to Australia will cost you an arm and a leg and that's if it can be organised and they let you back in.
Being sick and maybe even dying alone and far from home doesn't sound like my idea of a fun holiday.
And anyway even if you don't get sick , how much of a fun holiday will it be with covid rampant and all the precautions and all the restrictions you have to follow?
Put it off until at least next year. There's no rush. It will still be there.ScoMo is already doing marketing promotion for International flights trying to get ppl to put money into Alan Joyce bonus payments [emoji14]

I'm betting there will be hordes of ppl bringing kids and prams and surf boards cramping onto the flights to Bali, Phuket, Koh Samui. Immediately once border opens.

[gthgrt]

https://www.skyscanner.com.au/travel-restrictions?utm_content=top-link&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=au_green_list_AU_2021-10-01&utm_term=engaged

Look up the Travel map here.. nearly all asian countries we not allowed to visit including thailand. Only japan, korea and few others allowed. Funny that Africa, middle east and europe are allowed. What valid reason we allow to visit Thailand?

Nothing has changed for us yet. Thailand might be ready to accept tourists, but the Australian Government has not lifted the travel ban yet. Also, when the ban is lifted, I don't think it will be the same for all countries. Travel to some countries may still be banned or more restricted. We need to wait for the details.

[studsg]

Even Singapore is having 2000+ infection a day estimate to go to 10000 a day In 2 weeks and they have 90% Vax and mask wearing. I m not going to travel just watch and wait 6 months and get the booster 3 shot then most countries have 80+ Vax rate. I don't think the travel insurance will cover covid infection, maybe I m wrong.Yeah. That's true. And in NSW, where we dun wear masks and open up at 70%-80% (16 years and older which means actual whole population Vax rate is only 56%) I'm interested to see how our hospitals will cope when we open up.

[gthgrt]

One new condition of entry into Thailand is that you must have minimum US$100,000 health insurance that covers Covid medical expenses. I'm guessing that's just to make sure that their medical providers aren't left out of pocket if they need to treat a tourist. Not sure how much you would need for Medevac.

[Johnisfun1969]

Even Singapore is having 2000+ infection a day estimate to go to 10000 a day In 2 weeks and they have 90% Vax and mask wearing. I m not going to travel just watch and wait 6 months and get the booster 3 shot then most countries have 80+ Vax rate. I don't think the travel insurance will cover covid infection, maybe I m wrong.

Yes that’s true. When lockdown is lifted and people don’t wear
mask the number of infections will increase. But we should not look at the number of people infected once majority of the population had their two doses of vaccine. It’s the number of people in hospital as well as in ICU. The lockdown worked at the start of covid in 2020. But now since we have the delta variant you cannot eliminate the virus. It’s best to have a strategy to live with it as we do with the flue virus. In 2017 there were 1255 death, out of this nearly 100 people were below 64, the rest older.

https://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Lookup/by%20Subject/3303.0~2017~Main%20Features~Deaths%20due%20to%20in fluenza~5

But I agree one should not get on a plane as soon as the borders open. Better to wait couple of months. I think the travel insurance providers may also charge more in the beginning.

[wilisno]

Even Singapore is having 2000+ infection a day estimate to go to 10000 a day In 2 weeks and they have 90% Vax and mask wearing. I m not going to travel just watch and wait 6 months and get the booster 3 shot then most countries have 80+ Vax rate. I don't think the travel insurance will cover covid infection, maybe I m wrong.

Although the Singapore infection rate is high, but 98% are of mild or no symptoms, because the vaccination rate is high there.

[GoldfishMan]

https://www.skyscanner.com.au/travel-restrictions?utm_content=top-link&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=au_green_list_AU_2021-10-01&utm_term=engaged

Look up the Travel map here.. nearly all asian countries we not allowed to visit including thailand. Only japan, korea and few others allowed. Funny that Africa, middle east and europe are allowed. What valid reason we allow to visit Thailand?
For medical reasons. You're looking for a cure for your acute Blueballosis.

[bigmansam]

Getting out is easy. Getting back in is the hard part.

[Johnisfun1969]

https://www.skyscanner.com.au/travel-restrictions?utm_content=top-link&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=au_green_list_AU_2021-10-01&utm_term=engaged

Look up the Travel map here.. nearly all asian countries we not allowed to visit including thailand. Only japan, korea and few others allowed. Funny that Africa, middle east and europe are allowed. What valid reason we allow to visit Thailand?

What I think is the country allowed to visit will be updated once the borders open. They may start with UK , US, Singapore and extend to other countries with lower risk. Most Asian countries are struggling as their vaccination rates are low as people don’t trust the Chinese vaccine. But in 2022 all countries who rely on tourism will find a way to open their borders like Thailand has the sandbox scheme. This allows traveller to come into Phuket and have to spend 7 days in approved hotel. It’s not a quarantine and one is allowed to go out in Phuket. After 7 days one can go to other parts of Thailand.

https://www.thaiembassy.com/travel-to-thailand/no-quarantine-phuket-sandbox-plan

[studsg]

Yes that’s true. When lockdown is lifted and people don’t wear
mask the number of infections will increase. But we should not look at the number of people infected once majority of the population had their two doses of vaccine. It’s the number of people in hospital as well as in ICU. The lockdown worked at the start of covid in 2020. But now since we have the delta variant you cannot eliminate the virus. It’s best to have a strategy to live with it as we do with the flue virus. In 2017 there were 1255 death, out of this nearly 100 people were below 64, the rest older.

https://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Lookup/by%20Subject/3303.0~2017~Main%20Features~Deaths%20due%20to%20in fluenza~5

But I agree one should not get on a plane as soon as the borders open. Better to wait couple of months. I think the travel insurance providers may also charge more in the beginning.

With Flu, there isn't any form of lockdown or social distancing controls and we have about 1255 deaths. With Covid where we have tons of restrictions, social distancing, lockdown, we also see about 1300 deaths this year before the year has ended. So I would imagine once we remove all the restrictions and do a "Live with Covid" the number of deaths will easily make Flu numbers look like a drop in the ocean.

[studsg]

Although the Singapore infection rate is high, but 98% are of mild or no symptoms, because the vaccination rate is high there.

Hmm.... Singapore has 1356 ppl in hospital with severe Covid, 222 ventilated, 34 in ICU trying not to die.... doesn't really sound that mild for a country with over 80% vaccination rate.

I do agree that vaccination does reduce the number of severely infected. But it doesn't reduce it to the point where it is effective without the addition of social distancing measures.

https://www.moh.gov.sg/covid-19/statistics

They went from 40 cases a day to nearly 3000 cases a day in 4 weeks after they relaxed social distance measures. They still had to wear masks everywhere (except at home).

Get vaccinated and stay safe bros.

[GoldfishMan]

With Flu, there isn't any form of lockdown or social distancing controls and we have about 1255 deaths. With Covid where we have tons of restrictions, social distancing, lockdown, we also see about 1300 deaths this year before the year has ended. So I would imagine once we remove all the restrictions and do a "Live with Covid" the number of deaths will easily make Flu numbers look like a drop in the ocean.

Hit the nail on the head bro. That's why I always laugh at people trying to compare the death rate of COVID against the flu. The closest comparison we have of a country trying to take on COVID like it was the flu, IE. With minimal vaccination rates and minimal social distancing life-goes-on approach, was India at the beginning of their Delta wave. Granted they didn't do that deliberately, but it was a complete disaster with people actually dying on the pavements outside of hospitals because there were no more beds for them.

Now it is hard to make that comparison because almost every country thinking of opening up would have already had a high vaccination rate, much higher than against the flu for sure.

[dotcumdotinyou]

But didn't Thailand opt for sinovax?

[gthgrt]

China has 2 main vaccines, Sinovac and Sinopharm. If they opted for Sinovac, then thats good, because the TGA has advised that it be recognised as an effective vaccine. If this happens, people who have had Sinovac will be recognised as vaccinated by Australian authorities. If they were vaccinated with Sinopharm, then they wont be accepted as vaccinated here in Australia.

[dotcumdotinyou]

Could've been sinopharm then, I remember reading that when delta hit many thai doctors and nurses who were double vaxxed were dying.

[studsg]

If we take the political lenses off. China's vaccine are essentially traditional vaccines made from dead virus. This is the same as all the Flu vaccines we take yearly. Efficacy rates are in the range of 60-70% same as our Flu vaccines.

Many countries around the world use these "traditional" vaccine. Indonesia, Singapore, Philippines, Thailand, Brazil, Africa, etc.

And I do hope our TGA approves these vaccines soon, else our stock of ML and WL is gonna be depleted soon. Unless we expect new batches to come from the USA or UK.

[cumquat]

Anyone made an enquiry into the actual cost of travel insurance ?

I get all n sundry are keen to walk the wing and get on over.. aside from the vaccine rates and current travel limitations and various other barriers , what’s current cost for insurance ?

[AHLUNGOR]

If we take the political lenses off. China's vaccine are essentially traditional vaccines made from dead virus. This is the same as all the Flu vaccines we take yearly. Efficacy rates are in the range of 60-70% same as our Flu vaccines.

Many countries around the world use these "traditional" vaccine. Indonesia, Singapore, Philippines, Thailand, Brazil, Africa, etc.

And I do hope our TGA approves these vaccines soon, else our stock of ML and WL is gonna be depleted soon. Unless we expect new batches to come from the USA or UK.

Sinovac from China and one other from India had been recognised by our government so that students from these two countries can return to Oz without the 14 days hotel quarantine.

[dannyboy]

Qantas saying you'll need 4 tests and you'll still need 7 days home quarentine, those tests are 150 a pop, so factor that into your expenses also...

[raym011]

Qantas saying you'll need 4 tests and you'll still need 7 days home quarentine, those tests are 150 a pop, so factor that into your expenses also...

Hmmm what are the 4 PCR tests for dannyboy?? I wouldve assumed only 2 are needed.. 1 before departure there and back. But great point, just adds to the expense of travel right now

[Sleazypeazy]

Hmmm what are the 4 PCR tests for dannyboy?? I wouldve assumed only 2 are needed.. 1 before departure there and back. But great point, just adds to the expense of travel right now

The rapide Antigen tests will eventually replace PCR and become cheaper. Probably by next year they will be available in pharmacies, supermarkets etc