Why do sweet, innocent girls become WLs?

[Fred Flintstone]

I’ve been interested in knowing what makes WLs tick. Why does a sweet, innocent girl from a conservative Asian family decide to become a WL when she gets to Australia? This is a massive step for her to take. Her family think she’s sharing an inner city pad with two others and studying business to get a better life. Meanwhile, she’s working 2-days a week at a brothel, servicing 20 strange men a week. Her family would be horrified if they found out.

Yes I know it’s for the money initially and it gives them the economic freedom they need. But it’s more than that. At what point does the good girl turn bad, particularly when this work puts them at lowest social scale in their home countries?

And what about the mental scarring? How do you recover and go back to a normal life after fucking 1,000 men a year? I think the damage would be worse than heroin.

[MrPerson126]

whoa, there's a lot going on here. It's the money bro.

[rooter]

Naive question.
Simple answer. Money.

[Fred Flintstone]

Naive question.
Simple answer. Money.

Yes I know it’s money…. But it’s more than that. Just trying to explore the point at which the line is crossed. Not all women who need money become WLs.

[GoldfishMan]

I’ve been interested in knowing what makes WLs tick. Why does a sweet, innocent girl from a conservative Asian family decide to become a WL when she gets to Australia? This is a massive step for her to take. Her family think she’s sharing an inner city pad with two others and studying business to get a better life. Meanwhile, she’s working 2-days a week at a brothel, servicing 20 strange men a week. Her family would be horrified if they found out.

Yes I know it’s for the money initially and it gives them the economic freedom they need. But it’s more than that. At what point does the good girl turn bad, particularly when this work puts them at lowest social scale in their home countries?

And what about the mental scarring? How do you recover and go back to a normal life after fucking 1,000 men a year? I think the damage would be worse than heroin.
That's the thing bro. Every person makes their own decisions in life. It is wrong to type cast people who do the same thing. Besides, all those adjectives you mentioned... Sweet, innocent... Have got nothing to do with whether or not a girl becomes a WL. Like, a WL can still be sweet and enjoy going on dates with her BF. Or they can still be innocent in other ways, for example never play with drugs.

I reckon the main characteristics needed to become a WL are courage and "humility". So you can have either an innocent girl, or a badass gangsta girl who sleeps around. Both will never turn to sex work if they do not have courage, or if they are humble enough to accept that what they can afford to have without doing sex work is enough for them.

[PervySage]

Money.

And don't think the families don't know. They just turn a blind eye.

The girls send amounts of money back that even doctors don't earn in the home country... The clever girls are buying houses which would normally not be possible for them.

Also some come from a level of poverty that we can't understand and unlike in Australia the opportunities back home for them a limited.

My experience isn't really with WL more then ML. But several ML who I got to know outside of shop they were let's say not far off an WL 🤣 and the common thing was needing to make $$$ to support family back home.

[cumquat]

Why use words like bad?

[kingwally]

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[zoozilla]

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[cumquat]

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….Sydney beside the dimly lit cubicles in massage parlours.

Low education, lack of motivation and easy money etc. are the same stories.

Trope /stereotype ?

Or you are recounting your own story ?

[kingwally]

I've asked such a question to a few MLs I've met.

One said her had low education and that's the only job she could get. I think what she meant was this was the easy job that paid well for her.

One told me she started as a masseuse but was introduced to work as a ML later. I guessed it was a money pull thing. She was the only daughter and her parents were in Australia and were strict about her. But she went behind them to work as ML.

One left secondary school in China and went to Singapore to work doing facials. She arrived in Australia two years ago with friends and landed as ML with better and easy money. There was little motivation for her to learn English. 7 years in an English-speaking Singapore and 2 years in Australia she could barely strung together a simple English sentence.

I had her Wechat. All these months during Covid Lockdown she told me she just laid on the bed watching Chinese drama serials everyday. She spent her off days window shopping in Westfields and had seen little of Sydney beside the dimly lit cubicles in massage parlours.

Low education, lack of motivation and easy money etc. are the same stories.
She was certainly doing facials in Singapore! She was probably one of the hundreds hanging around the streets in Geylang putting her face on guys cocks for a fee. Pretty much blow and go in those streets...the fact that she was in Singapore for 7 years and learning virtually no English is surprising to say the least.

[JJBlows]

It's all an act!, they act sweet and innocent but some girls just like to fuck or be a party girl. I've had some wl who are naughty as hell but if you get to know them they are simple girls who like to read, cook and not party alot but just have a high sex drive. Other wl I have seen act all sweet but I've had them call me up and go back to their place and they are high on coke or weed and full on not a girl who you want a as a wife or gf (wl or not). The sweet acting girls are the ones you need to watch out for if you get into a relationship with, steal your money and fuck another guy or two on the side

[DireStraits]

she could barely *strung* together a simple English sentence.
The irony is strong in this one 😄

[Fred Flintstone]

Why use words like bad?

Because being a WL is not considered a good thing in society. Good for us punters, but considered bad elsewhere

[yowser]

my take: a lot of younger generation don't care as much about honour/reputation/pride as the older generation. So they don't care being a WL and the money is good.

For ML I heard a lot of common stories that they came to Australia and first worked a normal part-time job, but it was not survivable and they don't want to do sex, so they work in massage shops which is like half-way between a normal job and sex job.
Some ML started working in legit massage shops, they often got asked to do a "special" and they refused, and they got asked so many times and one day it sparked their curiosity and they tried it and then got addicted to the money.

[1inchguy]

It's money, especially if they could rush through they can get alot.

[limbi8888]

Money - they are in a place where people don't know them, they can do their little business and then none are the wiser of their time.

[zoozilla]

The irony is strong in this one ��

Your contradiction is misplaced. Pal. :)

[zoozilla]

IWhy do sweet, innocent girls become WLs?

How do you know they are sweet and innocent?

See one often enough and probe further she can be just as conniving, manipulative, a cheat and liar just like any other woman who wants to get what she wants.

[limbi8888]

How do you know they are sweet and innocent?

See one often enough and probe further she can be just as conniving, manipulative, a cheat and liar just like any other woman who wants to get what she wants.

so true being divorced i've seen the meaner side of women, there are alot out there

[local]

Why do sweet, innocent girls become WLs?

I WONDER WHY ?
What is also interesting is everyone here is referring to ASIAN WL's.

Over many years I have asked this question to myself and many Aussie Wl's some who have become friends in their other lives.

Overall, it money and control !!
YES Control. Some of these women really get off controlling their customers. Using their skills they certain do know how to play the punters not only monetarily but their little heads.
Mind you, I don't think the current crop of WL's would have any idea., even the aussie's as most now are just money &/or drugs.

Some of the older punterd here will know exactly what I mean :)

[cumquat]

How do you know they are sweet and innocent?

See one often enough and probe further she can be just as conniving, manipulative, a cheat and liar just like any other woman who wants to get what she wants.

Geez mate you sure as shit, got some shit to unpack ..

Not sure if you are referring too all women in general, including your mum and sis or, just your cousins aunts and your Asian milf and wife. Or they are the same ?

[TheMaestro]

Many of the WLs I have come across also were in that line of work back home as well.

[BlackToad]

They do it because they like sex and are as horny as hell.

[AHLUNGOR]

Many of the WLs I have come across also were in that line of work back home as well.

Very true, lots of them already crossed the line back home.

[storry_teller]

They do it because they like sex and are as horny as hell.

Lol. Is that what you believe? They must be just sex dolls in your eyes then

[zoozilla]

Lol. Is that what you believe? They must be just sex dolls in your eyes then

Yes to us they are Sex Goddess in the most purest and highest form.

They are bright candles around which flies like you fly and fall to.

They are the cold moons to which we want to put our mouths to.

They are the suns to which we seek warmth.

Without them we are no hope, dull and have nothing.

[Warrabong]

Because they are good actresses. Got ya fooled. Oooh you so big, me sooo horny. Haha

They already got game before they start as WL otherwise they fail

[Niceguy11]

I understand what OP is saying and totally get it. But at the end of the day, its all about the money. Their circumstances change and they need money to survive so will start doing sex work. One thing will lead to another which will lead into depression, drug use, excessive alcohol intake and a wide range of other problems.

There have been girls who are good girls as in never had sex before and attend Sydney Uni who eventually turned to sex work and their lives totally changed.

[Carissawhore]

Money...
Most of the WL and ML come from poverty, either their parents failed them one way or another or they have to take care of their family in some ways. Some are in for buying luxury stuff like bags, shoes, phone blah blah blah...

[Philyum]

Money...
Most of the WL and ML come from poverty, either their parents failed them one way or another or they have to take care of their family in some ways. Some are in for buying luxury stuff like bags, shoes, phone blah blah blah...

I can agree with you here

[Fred Flintstone]

Many of the WLs I have come across also were in that line of work back home as well.
Yes, this is true especially with Thai girls. I know a few Thai girls who are only here to work as MLs and WLs as they can earn more here than they can doing this work back in Thailand. They get dodgy student visas, enrol in some dodgy courses at one of those inner city visa factories and end up staying for 10 years or more. They never actually go to class, and can’t speak more than a few words of English, no matter how long they stay here. It’s not uncommon for the girls’ parents and siblings to gamble away the money they send back home

[Labia Vortex]

Money first and foremost
Some are curious
Some have a high sex drive
For some it's a control thing
Some Japanese girls just like fucking
One Korean girl had disdain for men but loved sex
She got off on controlling the situation and being paid by these stupid boys to do something she enjoyed
Figure that one out

[BlackToad]

One ML told me she was doing it for revenge against her boyfriend. Apparently she caught him fucking this other girl. She was still with him but worked part time as a ML because it made her feel like she was getting back at him even though she never actually told him what she was doing.

I told her the best way to get revenge is to fuck me, unfortunately it was a no go though, just a NHJ for me that day. Haha….

[storry_teller]

One ML told me she was doing it for revenge against her boyfriend. Apparently she caught him fucking this other girl. She was still with him but worked part time as a ML because it made her feel like she was getting back at him even though she never actually told him what she was doing.

I told her the best way to get revenge is to fuck me, unfortunately it was a no go though, just a NHJ for me that day. Haha….
Sad thing! Push herself so far to get over the pain…

[zoozilla]

Why do sweet, innocent girls become WLs?

It's because they want to become Venus who is a goddess in Roman mythology whose functions encompasse love, beauty, desire, sex, fertility, prosperity and victory.

Haven't you paid attention in the class?

[GoldfishMan]

One ML told me she was doing it for revenge against her boyfriend. Apparently she caught him fucking this other girl. She was still with him but worked part time as a ML because it made her feel like she was getting back at him even though she never actually told him what she was doing.

I told her the best way to get revenge is to fuck me, unfortunately it was a no go though, just a NHJ for me that day. Haha….
Someone ought to tell this girl the best vengeance is to live well.

[Fred Flintstone]

Girls also get addicted to the adoration by their fans and the power and control they can exert over men. Hundreds of punters drooling over their ass and tits and worshiping their pussies must do wonders for their egos. For poor girls with no social standing who came here with nothing, this elevated status and the instant wealth must be intoxicating

[asiafever]

Someone ought to tell this girl the best vengeance is to live well.

True, but it doesn't show up in many movie plots.
"Jack, filled with grief and rage, swore vengeance against the drug lords who murdered his family by living well."

[AHLUNGOR]

One ML told me she was doing it for revenge against her boyfriend. Apparently she caught him fucking this other girl. She was still with him but worked part time as a ML because it made her feel like she was getting back at him even though she never actually told him what she was doing.

I told her the best way to get revenge is to fuck me, unfortunately it was a no go though, just a NHJ for me that day. Haha….


One married busty ML used to tell me, she let me do something her husband Never did to her - fucking and cumming all over her big tit ! Of course her husband would have fucked her every each way and CIP, CIM etc …….. haha

[MrPerson126]

One married busty ML used to tell me, she let me do something her husband Never did to her - fucking and cumming all over her big tit ! Of course her husband would have fucked her every each way and CIP, CIM etc …….. haha

Fuck Ahlungor. That's hot.

[Ngarritj]

Daty is a fine reason. Would you like to go to work and make money while having multiple cums each day. And they paid for it on top.

[Philyum]

One married busty ML used to tell me, she let me do something her husband Never did to her - fucking and cumming all over her big tit ! Of course her husband would have fucked her every each way and CIP, CIM etc …….. haha

I am jealous...

[punter-pie]

Its all for the money, and their families back home know exactly what's going on, most live a very meager existence here to send the money home. Just my 2c.

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[DayMan69]

Money.

One girl has told me about the house and car she has bought her parents and the second house she's buying for herself in a small town south of Chang Rai.

Another girl has done a degree in accounting here and considering doing her Masters. In a second language!! She wants to buy a travel business back home in Vietnam in a few years.

And an insight from another girl a few years ago suggests they quite like sex with us because western men like giving them an orgasm. Maybe the more patriarchal culture back home doesn't care so much about that. Also, older men aren't such a big deal or a turn off for them, maybe because we don't look like their fathers, versus being from the same country?

But really, the simple fact is they get minimum wage in a restaurant. One girl told me she nade more in one day of massage than she did in 2 weeks of waitressing. Pretty straightforward really.

[tan30]

Straight up OP sounds like he came out of an incel forum. 'sweet innocent girls', 'how do they live with themselves after fucking 1000 men a year?!'

working an an ML or WL is just as legitimate as any other job; likely money, or they enjoy it, or it's an easy career path since theyre using assets they already have.

[the_boss_king]

i feel like money can make a person do almost anything. Even commit a murder. So it really just depends where you draw the line.

[Markin]

Straight up OP sounds like he came out of an incel forum. 'sweet innocent girls', 'how do they live with themselves after fucking 1000 men a year?!'

working an an ML or WL is just as legitimate as any other job; likely money, or they enjoy it, or it's an easy career path since theyre using assets they already have.

This. If you have the right personality and body type for it it's a great job option for an unskilled person. It doesn't suit most people for the long term but then again some of them get great at their job and build up a nice list of regulars who they enjoy working with.

I'd much rather be a ML for a 1 or 2 days a week than a cleaner for 6 days for similar money.

[GoldfishMan]

Straight up OP sounds like he came out of an incel forum. 'sweet innocent girls', 'how do they live with themselves after fucking 1000 men a year?!'

working an an ML or WL is just as legitimate as any other job; likely money, or they enjoy it, or it's an easy career path since theyre using assets they already have.

To be fair, he did say that the profession is frowned upon in their home countries which in most cases is true. Doesn't matter if punters in a punting forum think it is a legitimate job, or even if it is accepted here in Australia. That's just the way it is over there.

[tan30]

^ yea no

OP may be inferring that Asian countries look down on it, but he is heavily explicit on his own views towards the matter which is what I find the problem is. It's that sort of thinking that turns people to being neckbeards and incels. Honestly someone here hasn't said it but I'm sure if the OP got a less that politically correct answer such as 'oH iTs bEcAuSe aSians are SluTs and WanT wesTerN diCK' then he would sleep much better that someone else thinks like him.

Disgusting.

[Fred Flintstone]

^ yea no

OP may be inferring that Asian countries look down on it, but he is heavily explicit on his own views towards the matter which is what I find the problem is. It's that sort of thinking that turns people to being neckbeards and incels. Honestly someone here hasn't said it but I'm sure if the OP got a less that politically correct answer such as 'oH iTs bEcAuSe aSians are SluTs and WanT wesTerN diCK' then he would sleep much better that someone else thinks like him.

Disgusting.

Yes it’s truly disgusting. Looks like I’ve hit a nerve with you. Instead of just criticizing other forum members who are having a go during this lockdown, why don’t you come up with some entertaining contributions? Show us disgusting incel folk how it’s done. Haha

[tpol]

I know a couple of jap ML who now have returned home and married.

They still text me. They don't seem to be mentally scarred. They can more or less block it out as if nothing happened or like they went overseas for a holiday and slept around and there's nothing to it as they were single.

Though they seem bored in married life.

Another one said, why goto clubs, bars pick up and let a guy screw her for free when she can do the same and get paid

[tan30]

Yes it’s truly disgusting. Looks like I’ve hit a nerve with you. Instead of just criticizing other forum members who are having a go during this lockdown, why don’t you come up with some entertaining contributions? Show us disgusting incel folk how it’s done. Haha

I can't come up with entertaining contributions since no brothels/massage places are open, as is the point of the AR forums

Can't take a bit of criticism aye? What exactly are you having a go at? 9/10 replies here have basically said 'money' as the go to reason, are you really that bored that you have to create a clickbait thread

[Fred Flintstone]

I can't come up with entertaining contributions since no brothels/massage places are open, as is the point of the AR forums

Can't take a bit of criticism aye? What exactly are you having a go at? 9/10 replies here have basically said 'money' as the go to reason, are you really that bored that you have to create a clickbait thread
I can see why 9/10 forum members remain silent lurkers. Why even contribute anything when trolls like you will just take them down?

Fuck me dead. You really do need help bro.

[tan30]

9/10 lurkers don't post dumb shit threads like yours.

Go find a sweet young and '1000 cocks' WL to keep you happy. Maybe you can ask her your question considering youre paying money to get attention.

[Markin]

I can see why 9/10 forum members remain silent lurkers. Why even contribute anything when trolls like you will just take them down?

Fuck me dead. You really do need help bro.

How and why did an innocent boy like you cross the line and start using sex workers? Your family would be horrified if they found out.

And what about the mental scarring? How do you recover and go back to a normal life after fucking 100 sex workers a year? I think the damage would be worse than heroin.

I kid. I'm not trying to troll just making the point that not everyone finds sex with strangers for money immoral and disgusting.

[dotcumdotinyou]

its been 3 pages now and the answer is still money

[tan30]

All good guys, OP is still pondering your answers. Give him some time. I suspect his next question later will be something along the lines of - 'why do older WLs keep doing what they're doing after fucking 100k cocks'

[zooziIIa]

All good guys, OP is still pondering your answers. Give him some time. I suspect his next question later will be something along the lines of - 'why do older WLs keep doing what they're doing after fucking 100k cocks'

I was just about to start a thread asking exactly that!

[tarl1975]

I met a WL who did the work because she caught her boyfriend visiting WLs. So, she went and worked in the same agency as revenge and also for money because she had relied on him for the money. She moved out and had no money. Her boyfriend almost booked her once and she almost got found out. Then she received her inheritance and she moved back to be with the boyfriend because she needed him to sponsor her to stay here.

What is interesting is that he was her first and only boyfriend who she had been with ever since university. A beautiful girl!

[asiafever]

Years ago there was a girl working occasionally at 22 Brodie, Korean girl, forget her name.
Anyway she used to come down from Qld, work for a few weeks, make a heap of cash then go back home for 6 months or so. I enjoyed our sessions because we would discuss all manner of topics, often debate, and either side of this we would have pretty intense sex.
Now one day she was inquiring after my daughter and asked straight up "What would you do if in the future you discovered she was in this line of work?"
My answer was I would first find out why. She interrupted and said "Money. We're mostly all in this work for money. Anyone I've met who says anything else is mental."

Ever since, and backed up by other conversations and observations, I've taken that as given. Whatever their personal situation it boils down to money. Money to pay bills, money to facilitate lifestyle, money to help family, money to support a habit, money to set up their future, it's all about $$$.

Edit: Ashleigh!! That was her name. She was sassy, she was kind of like a FWB type session. God that's got to be 10 years ago now before I was even on here.

[GoldfishMan]

I met a WL who did the work because she caught her boyfriend visiting WLs. So, she went and worked in the same agency as revenge and also for money because she had relied on him for the money. She moved out and had no money. Her boyfriend almost booked her once and she almost got found out. Then she received her inheritance and she moved back to be with the boyfriend because she needed him to sponsor her to stay here.

What is interesting is that he was her first and only boyfriend who she had been with ever since university. A beautiful girl!


Years ago there was a girl working occasionally at 22 Brodie, Korean girl, forget her name.
Anyway she used to come down from Qld, work for a few weeks, make a heap of cash then go back home for 6 months or so. I enjoyed our sessions because we would discuss all manner of topics, often debate, and either side of this we would have pretty intense sex.
Now one day she was inquiring after my daughter and asked straight up "What would you do if in the future you discovered she was in this line of work?"
My answer was I would first find out why. She interrupted and said "Money. We're mostly all in this work for money. Anyone I've met who says anything else is mental."

Ever since, and backed up by other conversations and observations, I've taken that as given. Whatever their personal situation it boils down to money. Money to pay bills, money to facilitate lifestyle, money to help family, money to support a habit, money to set up their future, it's all about $$$.

Edit: Ashleigh!! That was her name. She was sassy, she was kind of like a FWB type session. God that's got to be 10 years ago now before I was even on here.

Great stories. I really enjoy reading them and the insights gained from them. That QLD Korean girl must've been one hell of a root!

I reckon the question about why they do this work is pretty much answered, of course it is for the money. The rate we pay to be with them is high compared to other things like getting a legit massage or going to the GP, for a good reason: to enable the high pay these girls can get doing this work as an incentive. The tougher a job is, the higher the incentive has to be. It's as simple as that.

I still think, though, that the "deciding factor" of whether or not a girl will decide to do this for the money is courage. I mean, sure a girl might not be able to afford luxuries, or might not be able to help pay off family debt, etc. If they do not have the courage to do this work, they will just either go without, think of another way to solve the problem, or just put their hand up in defeat.
Courage determines whether or not a girl was a "go-getter" or someone who will just accept what life throws their way.

[storry_teller]

I met a WL who did the work because she caught her boyfriend visiting WLs. So, she went and worked in the same agency as revenge and also for money because she had relied on him for the money. She moved out and had no money. Her boyfriend almost booked her once and she almost got found out. Then she received her inheritance and she moved back to be with the boyfriend because she needed him to sponsor her to stay here.

What is interesting is that he was her first and only boyfriend who she had been with ever since university. A beautiful girl!
Hurting each other should not be a competition. Once it’s a competition, both parties will continue to next level of revenge. What they get after that? Happy, or just more hurtful? But yes, cheating is hard to forget and forgive. Will say depending on situation, motivation and scenario of cheating to decide how to go on with it.

[Carissawhore]

A Thai WL I used to regular was married to a old guy and was not satisfied hence she used to work in brothel to satisfy her sexual craving and also get paid at the same time, she would only work on random days when her husband was away for 2 days or more on work. She met the guy in Thailand when she was working in gogo bar, she promised him that she would retire but her sexual craving over took her promise.

Another WL Thai again was married to a Auzi guy but she needed money so that she could support her family in Thailand hence she worked as WL without her husbands knowledge.

[asiafever]

Hurting each other should not be a competition. Once it’s a competition, both parties will continue to next level of revenge. What they get after that? Happy, or just more hurtful? But yes, cheating is hard to forget and forgive. Will say depending on situation, motivation and scenario of cheating to decide how to go on with it.

100% spot on.
Consequentialism teaches us that the morality of an action is solely judged on its consequences. Revenge feels good momentarily but honestly the best revenge in a situation like this is just walking away and forgetting they ever existed. You have to live with the consequences of your actions also and in the heat of the moment we can make poor decisions when we've been hurt.
I had a gf I was serious about, I discovered she had actually been using me to cheat on her fiance. I could have dumped her in the shit, I could have ruined her potential marriage etc, I just walked away and never saw her again. Temptation to rat her out was huge, to sabotage her and make her feel as shitty as I did, but thankfully my cooler head prevailed. Next girl I met was the love of my life, but that's another story.

Move on. Life is far too short to waste it on those undeserving of your time and stress.

Sorry, that's a diversion from the topic at hand.

[Wotan]

I met a WL who did the work because she caught her boyfriend visiting WLs. So, she went and worked in the same agency as revenge and also for money because she had relied on him for the money. She moved out and had no money. Her boyfriend almost booked her once and she almost got found out. Then she received her inheritance and she moved back to be with the boyfriend because she needed him to sponsor her to stay here.

What is interesting is that he was her first and only boyfriend who she had been with ever since university. A beautiful girl!

There is little or no future for this relationship.

[123brainer]

Yes I know it’s money…. But it’s more than that. Just trying to explore the point at which the line is crossed. Not all women who need money become WLs.

The few WL ladies that I have befriended over the years have always told one of the 3 reason why they do what they do.

1 - It’s a way for them to make enough money which can buy them a certain type of life style.

2 - A much quicker and easier way to make money.

3 - it’s work that pays well instead of slaving away long hours for tiny pay that gets them nothing.

So in the end it’s about the $$$. I guess we are all slaves to the $$$ we just sell different things.

If could sell sex to women I would :)

[Climax598]

The few WL ladies that I have befriended over the years have always told one of the 3 reason why they do what they do.

1 - It’s a way for them to make enough money which can buy them a certain type of life style.

2 - A much quicker and easier way to make money.

3 - it’s work that pays well instead of slaving away long hours for tiny pay that gets them nothing.

So in the end it’s about the $$$. I guess we are all slaves to the $$$ we just sell different things.

If could sell sex to women I would :)
You can be a Gigolo or male escort or male massager you see on Japanese porn🤭

[asiafever]

The few WL ladies that I have befriended over the years have always told one of the 3 reason why they do what they do.

1 - It’s a way for them to make enough money which can buy them a certain type of life style.

2 - A much quicker and easier way to make money.

3 - it’s work that pays well instead of slaving away long hours for tiny pay that gets them nothing.

So in the end it’s about the $$$. I guess we are all slaves to the $$$ we just sell different things.

If could sell sex to women I would :)

I tried to sell sex to women for 4 Years, I decided to change my name to Harvey Norman. 48 Months no interest!

[storry_teller]

100% spot on.
Consequentialism teaches us that the morality of an action is solely judged on its consequences. Revenge feels good momentarily but honestly the best revenge in a situation like this is just walking away and forgetting they ever existed. You have to live with the consequences of your actions also and in the heat of the moment we can make poor decisions when we've been hurt.
I had a gf I was serious about, I discovered she had actually been using me to cheat on her fiance. I could have dumped her in the shit, I could have ruined her potential marriage etc, I just walked away and never saw her again. Temptation to rat her out was huge, to sabotage her and make her feel as shitty as I did, but thankfully my cooler head prevailed. Next girl I met was the love of my life, but that's another story.

Move on. Life is far too short to waste it on those undeserving of your time and stress.

Sorry, that's a diversion from the topic at hand.
Someone choose to clean up the mess together while some throw themselves away then both end up getting dust.

[Thomas Crown]

A few random tales from the field…

One of Ginza’s current stars told me she lost $100K last year playing baccarat at Star Casino. She works to clear this debt.

A girl I saw at 42G told me she needed to register her car. Great session, so I called Simon 4 days later to book her again. “She’s gone mate,” he said. “She only stayed one day!”

One of the recent superstars at N5M told me she had to pay her Mum’s increasing medical bills in Thailand as she battled a chronic illness.

A super hot girl I saw 3/4 times at Burwood 8 told me she worked in car sales for BMW in Hong Kong and she lost her job. She came to Sydney for this work so she could buy her apartment in HK, go back to the car place that sacked her to buy a BMW for revenge and — wait for it — pay her dog’s vet bills 😂

Wildly different REASONS. The same MOTIVATION.

$$$$$

And I’ll never forget what one WL said to me not long after I started paying for sex.

Longer-time members of this forum will remember a tall and very sexy Japanese girl who called herself Chika at Ginza circa 2019.

We’d just finished another great session at 310 Cleveland and she said she wanted to visit me in Melbourne that following weekend.

“Great,” I said. “But do you want more money for that?”

“Oh yes baby,” she cooed, as she dropped to her knees to blow me again.

“We always want more money.”

[SinSeeker]

I tried to sell sex to women for 4 Years, I decided to change my name to Harvey Norman. 48 Months no interest![emoji1787]

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[gpeck80]

I’ve been interested in knowing what makes WLs tick. Why does a sweet, innocent girl from a conservative Asian family decide to become a WL when she gets to Australia? This is a massive step for her to take. Her family think she’s sharing an inner city pad with two others and studying business to get a better life. Meanwhile, she’s working 2-days a week at a brothel, servicing 20 strange men a week. Her family would be horrified if they found out.

Yes I know it’s for the money initially and it gives them the economic freedom they need. But it’s more than that. At what point does the good girl turn bad, particularly when this work puts them at lowest social scale in their home countries?

And what about the mental scarring? How do you recover and go back to a normal life after fucking 1,000 men a year? I think the damage would be worse than heroin.

"Her family would be horrified if they found out."

Consider this^ makes them LEARN HOW TO PRETEND to be sweet and innocent in their own country. What you think is innocence, is a great act for money. Quit being so naive.

[Aloscha]

It's all about choice. Yes money is obviously a driving factor for most if not all of them. But having punted for over a decade now, the reasons each girl does it is unique. Some it's out of necessity, some feel empowered, some come from a repressed background and use it to explore themselves and some even do it to try and find a sexually compatible partner.

It's not always the stereotype we have in our minds of a cash hungry druggo. All of us in the end want a bit of attention and a bit of company. Girls just have the upper hand that men are willing to pay for that.

[cumquat]

"Her family would be horrified if they found out."

Consider this^ makes them LEARN HOW TO PRETEND to be sweet and innocent in their own country. What you think is innocence, is a great act for money. Quit being so naive.

Early day riffin on the Madonna-Whore complex..



Plenty of that all through here (forum) 🙄😂

[cumquat]

Someone choose to clean up the mess together while some throw themselves away then both end up getting dust.


an illiterate wood cutter once said

Bodhi originally has no tree,
The mirror(-like mind) has no stand.
Buddha-nature (emptiness/oneness) is always clean and pure;
Where is there room for dust (to alight)

[rooter]

an illiterate wood cutter once said

Bodhi originally has no tree,
The mirror(-like mind) has no stand.
Buddha-nature (emptiness/oneness) is always clean and pure;
Where is there room for dust (to alight)

What nonsense! Buddhist bulldust!

[asiafever]

You once were dust, and to dust you shall return...

Which is why I don't dust, it could be someone I know...

[dotcumdotinyou]

The earth is slow but the ox is patient

[warwick1]

He who laughs last doesn't see the joke in the first place

[Raybo]

WL once told me she did this work because she could smoke ice on the job!! I am sure there were other reasons but I am pretty sure she was serious!

[rooter]

Well we all know they enter the industry for the money.
But the reason they stay is because they enjoy the company of all of us handsome, intelligent, studly gents :)

[Johnisfun1969]

This thread has been going on for some time now. Finally I have been drawn in. In my opinion a good number of girls only get into this because they need money. Especially the ones coming from overseas. What they charge or how hard they have to work depends on where they are from as well how desperate they are. Australia is a very expensive country and it’s hard for us who have a job or income.

I would find it hard to believe many girls would enter this profession because they like sex. Come on who would want to see most of the ugly looking, fat, hairy, smelly men wanting to stick their tongue, tongue or dick in various places. Next time when you are with working girl be nice, kind and generous. You may get a better service from them. And by all means I did not mean every punter is disgusting. There are exceptions specially me :slobber: 😉🤪

[zoozilla]

I would find it hard to believe many girls would enter this profession because they like sex. Come on who would want to see most of the ugly looking, fat, hairy, smelly men wanting to stick their tongue, tongue or dick in various places. Next time when you are with working girl be nice, kind and generous. You may get a better service from them. And by all means I did not mean every punter is disgusting. There are exceptions specially me :slobber: ����

With your good look and well manners do you get free extra from the girls?

[storry_teller]

With your good look and well manners do you get free extra from the girls?

Well mannered ppl don’t expect nor use their good things to score free extra. Treat ppl fair is one of factors to build good manners. Ppl who tries to get free extra still can get free extra sometimes but it might not be the girl’s will.

[GoldfishMan]

With your good look and well manners do you get free extra from the girls?
If it's "free", how can it still be "extra"?

[zoozilla]

If it's "free", how can it still be "extra"?

If you want to be paranoid with English semantics there are paid and unpaid extras.

[cumquat]

If you want to be paranoid with English semantics there are paid and unpaid extras.

Without paranoia , with paroxysms of pleasure.. please it’s P E D A N T I C .

[jm2141mj]

What I find is that they are generally not sweet and innocent, and that’s a good thing. In my experience, sweet and innocent girls are nice to look at but are not as fun to have sex with.


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[cumquat]

What I find is that they are generally not sweet and innocent, and that’s a good thing. In my experience, sweet and innocent girls are nice to look at but are not as fun to have sex with.


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Madonna is a whore … That kind of thing?

[Johnisfun1969]

With your good look and well manners do you get free extra from the girls?

Honestly speaking not really. And I am not good looking with the receding hair line and grey hair. My comment was more tongue and cheek. However I have been given bbbj few times which I have not paid extra. This could be the girl offers this to most clients and sometimes the girl may give to make you come quickly or they don’t like the taste of condom. For me if I did not ask for it and not expecting comes as a surprise and more pleasurable.

[GoldfishMan]

Honestly speaking not really. And I am not good looking with the receding hair line and grey hair. My comment was more tongue and cheek. However I have been given bbbj few times which I have not paid extra. This could be the girl offers this to most clients and sometimes the girl may give to make you come quickly or they don’t like the taste of condom. For me if I did not ask for it and not expecting comes as a surprise and more pleasurable.
He's actually been banned, dude. It'd be like talking to a comatose man.

[rooter]

zoozilla banned again. That's at least 15 times now.
He has been around for at least 8 years with over 15 different names.
He will be back again.
He will never stop.

[Climax598]

Oh dear the kid got banned. Just wander want next incarnation will be.

[JJBlows]

This thread has been going on for some time now. Finally I have been drawn in. In my opinion a good number of girls only get into this because they need money. Especially the ones coming from overseas. What they charge or how hard they have to work depends on where they are from as well how desperate they are. Australia is a very expensive country and it’s hard for us who have a job or income.

I would find it hard to believe many girls would enter this profession because they like sex. Come on who would want to see most of the ugly looking, fat, hairy, smelly men wanting to stick their tongue, tongue or dick in various places. Next time when you are with working girl be nice, kind and generous. You may get a better service from them. And by all means I did not mean every punter is disgusting. There are exceptions specially me :slobber: 😉🤪

I remember going back to a WL apartment and I was laying on her bed listening to her argue with her boyfriend that she was not at home tonight and was at her friend's place and that she isn't cheating on him.....

I mean they may act sweet but some girls are just promiscuous and like a bit of good dick here or there or just a variety and don't like being tied down with a single bloke when they are young (lots of girls are like this regardless of enthnicity or finances). I think some girls wouldn't consider this job and pick the blokes they sleep with regularly where as other girls realise that they can get paid for doing this job.

It's a mixed bag when it comes to the girls choosing to do this job.

[rooter]

Oh dear the kid got banned. Just wander want next incarnation will be.

He is not a kid.
He is an adult male.

[tpol]

Sometimes the hubby or bf are bad roots. So might as well get paid for a bad root and keep the good rooters as regular

[buster]

He is not a kid.
He is an adult male.

Yeah, agree with you rooter. Enjoying the peace while it lasts

[Climax598]

He is not a kid.
He is an adult male.
I know, ls just a nick name

[Kiryu0]

Oh he's banned? Finally, but looking forward to the rise of the Phoenix soon...

[cumquat]

Oh he's banned? Finally, but looking forward to the rise of the Phoenix soon...

Reckon he’ll use the name Mulan

[AHLUNGOR]

zoozilla banned again. That's at least 15 times now.
He has been around for at least 8 years with over 15 different names.
He will be back again.
He will never stop.

It would be good to know who’s who, and who got banned ?

Sorry, I’m usually very slow in putting two and two and three and three together.

There had been quite a lot of different trolls flooding the forum before, many were more nasty than the others. Just saying it.

[warwick1]

Reckon he’ll use the name Mulan

He/she /it, PM'd me twice asking information about the Artarmon strip, they were really childish and ignorant in the wording,I told him to find out for himself, if he is an adult he is not playing with a full deck.......

[cumquat]

He/she /it, PM'd me twice asking information about the Artarmon strip, they were really childish and ignorant in the wording,I told him to find out for himself, if he is an adult he is not playing with a full deck.......

He/she is an ‘adult ‘, in calendar age at least

Whoever, was unable to maintain consistency with language and word use.

As being said by others will likely remerge

[Calpico_Can]

I've met quite a few WL/MLs outside...seen some get married after they retired(more than likely to a punter) , some left the city but not the country cause of paranoia and certain punters being stalkers

everyones answered OPs question, its money, but the reason for money? going deeper into why if you're wondering OP?

some have baby children left behind in their home countries (you may notice C sections or stretch marks on some girls), their parents are taking care of them while money gets sent back.

some have had unexpected financial struggles (know some from Midas/Juliet who showed me how rich they were before, then either their family got scammed or the earlier global financial crises stripped them of alot)

some just want to escape the country ( someone from Ginza didnt want to live in Tokyo and be among the rest of the rat race )

IF you have little to no skills then its impossible to get a surge of income, especially when above situations arrive, those situations are whats making your sweet little innocent dolls turn to this
and we help fund it

[JJBlows]

He/she /it, PM'd me twice asking information about the Artarmon strip, they were really childish and ignorant in the wording,I told him to find out for himself, if he is an adult he is not playing with a full deck.......

When is our mate scalan going to make a re appearance?🤣

[Meng]

Sorry so who is this zoozilla person. I initially wanted to comment and ask why everyone is picking on him but it seems a few of you obviously know he was another forum member who was banned lol.

[Fred Flintstone]

I've met quite a few WL/MLs outside...seen some get married after they retired(more than likely to a punter) , some left the city but not the country cause of paranoia and certain punters being stalkers

everyones answered OPs question, its money, but the reason for money? going deeper into why if you're wondering OP?

some have baby children left behind in their home countries (you may notice C sections or stretch marks on some girls), their parents are taking care of them while money gets sent back.

some have had unexpected financial struggles (know some from Midas/Juliet who showed me how rich they were before, then either their family got scammed or the earlier global financial crises stripped them of alot)

some just want to escape the country ( someone from Ginza didnt want to live in Tokyo and be among the rest of the rat race )

IF you have little to no skills then its impossible to get a surge of income, especially when above situations arrive, those situations are whats making your sweet little innocent dolls turn to this
and we help fund it

Thank you for your respectful and courteous reply. That’s exactly where I wanted this discussion to head. It’s always fascinating to learn the backstory behind every girl and why they entered this profession. In this lockdown period, there is not too much action going on, so the purpose of asking this question was to just have an interesting discussion.

I know money is the reason and if all my knockers and critics had bothered to read my comment, they would know I acknowledged this at the start. For all those who ridiculed me and called me naive, I think you’re ones who are naive. Prostitution, despite being legal here, is still not considered an acceptable profession for most girls. Would you like your wives or daughters to become WLs? The girls we see do have to hide their profession from their families and need a lot of courage to do this work in a foreign country

[limbi8888]

Thank you for your respectful and courteous reply. That’s exactly where I wanted this discussion to head. It’s always fascinating to learn the backstory behind every girl and why they entered this profession. In this lockdown period, there is not too much action going on, so the purpose of asking this question was to just have an interesting discussion.

I know money is the reason and if all my knockers and critics had bothered to read my comment, they would know I acknowledged this at the start. For all those who ridiculed me and called me naive, I think you’re ones who are naive. Prostitution, despite being legal here, is still not considered an acceptable profession for most girls. Would you like your wives or daughters to become WLs? The girls we see do have to hide their profession from their families and need a lot of courage to do this work in a foreign country

If you spend enough time with them and talk to them, they will open up and tell you. I've got lots of stories from plenty of girls

[Fred Flintstone]

If you spend enough time with them and talk to them, they will open up and tell you. I've got lots of stories from plenty of girls

Yes that’s true. Most are happy to have a chat. One girl I know (half this board would know her) funds a dog pound in her home country. She sends money to feed and to cover vet bills for over 100 stray dogs in her town. I was astonished

[warwick1]

Yes that’s true. Most are happy to have a chat. One girl I know (half this board would know her) funds a dog pound in her home country. She sends money to feed and to cover vet bills for over 100 stray dogs in her town. I was astonished

If she loves puppy dogs she must be a good person......

[asiafever]

Yes that’s true. Most are happy to have a chat. One girl I know (half this board would know her) funds a dog pound in her home country. She sends money to feed and to cover vet bills for over 100 stray dogs in her town. I was astonished

Whoever she is has my full attention.

[asiafever]

If she loves puppy dogs she must be a good person......

"We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals." Immanuel Kant.

[Vader]

"We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals." Immanuel Kant.

Hear hear to that

[Meng]

"We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals." Immanuel Kant.

Hitler loved animals.

[asiafever]

Hitler loved animals.

Not all animals. He was fond of dogs, in particular German shepherds, because of their obedience but also because of their resemblance to wolves, (hence naming his WWII Hq Wolf's lair). Effectively the Nazis had a cult surrounding apex predators (Goring kept Lions, 7 from memory), and the law passed forbidding warm blooded animals from being slaughtered without being stunned first was actually aimed primarily at prohibiting ritual slaughter of Jews. Domestic cats however were seen as "Jews among animals" and assumed to be in league with Satan...